SCP Discussion Thread 3

[WeeklyBattles]

Depends on what youre looking for, there's a lot of stories you can get into

 

[NuclearPixelemental]

So I want to get into the SCP fandom. I've read a couple SCPs and enjoyed what I read. I was wondering, whats the bestw way to go through the site?

Start here.

 

[Chartate101]

I want to spiral down the rabbit hole and get into the whole "series".

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Then the best place to start is probably at the beginning

 

[Chartate101]

once I read the overarching lore, what next> Do you recomend just reading SCPs in order, or is there another way?

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Eh, i would say "start" where you want, but i guess the way i started wasn't exactly the best one. owo

meanwhile, i just found out 3812 apparently... wiped out the Kingdom of Alagadda and any memories of it from earth...

well i don't know if it is the Alagadda or just a state named after it

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Better question : Where would 3812 fit in with the Elder Gods ?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

...3812 is above the Hanged King and Yaldabaoth...

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

^.... Oh s*** ... HOW ?!

 

[WeeklyBattles]

From what Ultima said, 3812 wiped out Alagadda

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Alagadda ? I'm sorry, I am not that match in the lore. How important is it ?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Its the dimensional nexus of the multiverse in which all higher and lower dimensions are unified into a single world in which all beings can interact with each other regardless of their dimension of origin. The Hanged King rules over and controls it, he rivals Yaldabaoth in power, and the city itself gradually sustains Yaldabaoth while he's trapped within the Great Brass Cage

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I see... Is it above the Tree ?

Also, found this : " Such was the nature of Alagadda, the restraints of time and space being mere suggestion, not law. " .

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Well, it was said that three "governments" found out about 3812 and tried to terminate him, but he wiped them out and every memory about them was erased from earth

and in the footnotes, one of these states is identified was "The Kingdom of Alagadda"

.....again, i'm not sure if it is the Alagadda

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

We can kinda assume it is for now. There was only one Alagadda relating to SCP-verse.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Assuming he (3812) is far stronger than them... Is he comparable to the High Elder Gods ? I need to know this for when a page is made for him... Because i want to feature him in a fight with Beyonder .

Unless Weekly implies High Elder Gods and above are 1-A... Then 3712 vs Beyonder will never occur.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

I think he would sit between The Low Elder Gods and The Scarlet King

 

[WeeklyBattles]

From what we've seen of him so far, no, he's not even above the Brothers or the SK, but he's defnitely above the Elder Gods

Edit: Ninjaed

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Oh.... I see.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

i'd also like to point out that this "narratives" thingy seems to be very Composite Hierarchy-esque, since while 3812 seemingly wiped out Alagadda, the fact that it was going to erase his "Narrative" was treated as far more of a big deal, and 3812 himself even implies that his "ascension" throughout infinite narratives... was still part of a single narrative

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

The foundation is becoming ******* Umineko.


this spiralled out of hand shockingly quickly.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

I mean

pretty sure The Foundation was always pretty meta

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

well now the metaphysical structure of the foundation is basically the same as umineko, just maybe without any beings that completely transcend the hierarchy.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Anyone on or above the High Elder Gods transcends it though

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Swann does. Swann vs Gan should be a thing.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

the point still stands though, this is an...... odd coincidence to be honest.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

would the weaker God-Tiers scale to the Narrative thingies though?

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

The Infinte Narratives Trio: The Foundation, The Dark Tower and Umineko


this is quite odd to be honest

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The Lower Elder Gods would scale to the verse's cosmology as per Yal's feat of being able to destroy everything just by existing

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

i think my prediction in the dimensionality revision thread will be ******* correct.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It's actually lowkey cannon that the Dark Tower and the Foundation have the same cosmology...even up to the Scarlet King and the Crimson King being the same entity...

 

[Ultima_Reality]

.....welp

seems like The God-Tiers are like...

Infinite-dimensional^infinity in the High 1-B scale...

No, seriously, i mean. Infinite narratives with a dimensional-like difference between them can seemingly be contained in a single narrative:

Our ascendence is just as much a part of our own narrative as his decision was to him. Someday, we'll be free from these restrictions.

And there are characters who can in theory destroy all narratives...

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Someone needs to check if Stephen King has ever been sighted on the wiki.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Nvm, just checked and it wasnt steven king

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

why couldn't it be used?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Because that's cross-verse scaling

 

[Ultima_Reality]

.........funny how SCP Foundation went from a verse which peaked at Low 2-C...

to a a verse with a bunch of really above baseline High 1-Bs and Composite Hierarchies

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ikr? xD

I remember back when Swann being upgraded to Low 2-C was not only a BIG deal, but it was controversial

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

The foundation still has a Umineko-like hierarchy and it seems that swann would either be something like infinty^infinty an infinity number of times or just beyond-dimensional in a way similar to gan

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Is 239 and 3812 considered God Tier in that case ? Because doesn't the Ways in theory embodies all the narratives ?