SCP-3930 VS Flynn (Shin Megami Tensei)

[Overlord775]

8-C Flynn and Speed Equalized

Clear Exemple of SCP's weirdness :0

Samurai Messiah Godslayer :0

Inconclusive.0

 

[Ionliosite]

Flynn resist void manip, will the absorption work anyway? Also, Flynn has feats of killing beings that don't even exist with nothing but brute force.

 

[Overlord775]

bump

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Flynn resist void manip, will the absorption work anyway? Also, Flynn has feats of killing beings that don't even exist with nothing but brute force.

The absorbtion should work because it is based on view rather than conventional ability, and at the very least the AoE void is simply a natural consequence of pushing a higher dimensional object into a 0D space. Does he have the ability to kill abstracts or lower dimensional beings?

 

[Ionliosite]

Flynn can kill abstracts, he does it all the time.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

What type 1 abstracts has he killed? Has he killed nonexistent abstracts?

 

[Ionliosite]

The White are nonexistent abstracts and he kills them like fodder.

 

[Paul_Frank]

If he killed abstracts and non existent beings killing a non existant abstract isn't much harder

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Do they have a profile I could look at? If not, could i by any chance get scans that they are both of these things. What type 1 abstracts has he killed?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

If he killed abstracts and non existent beings killing a non existant abstract isn't much harder

Normally I would say so, but I ask because, while all pattern screamers are different transcendent concepts and pattersn, 3930's concept is itself nonexistence

 

[Paul_Frank]

When is it stated 3930's concept is non existence. The only thing that's stated about it is that it just doesn't exist and those that enter perceive things still.

Also I think his killing non existent beings thing might come from this Characters far weaker than the Demiurge can completely destroy beings of nothingness with nothing but normal attacks, and control the primordial void of nothingness that consumes and erases everything that comes in contact with it, even concepts and the Information that comprises reality

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Pattern screamers manifest in the world by repeating patterns and transcendent concepts. the pattern screamers that make up 3930 manifest a nonexistent void when they overlap with the world. That is their concept

 

[Paul_Frank]

From what I remember the pattern screamers don't make up 3930 they just exist within it. Much like the screamers that exist within that bamboo area since those two locations were unaffected by the resets after the pattern arrived

 

[Ionliosite]

Do they have a profile I could look at? If not, could i by any chance get scans that they are both of these things. What type 1 abstracts has he killed?

The White don't have a profile, but them, as any other Demon in SMT are abstracts. And they has been said to be nonexistent like when White K desires to teach Flynn the splendor of nonexistence.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

But are they type 1 abstracts?

 

[Ionliosite]

I don't know how to determinate that, but I don't think so. But this is SMT we are talking about, so everything is posible.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

You should reach out to someone who would know, and find out if they are. I'll go reach out to my SMT friends as well

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

They're type two abstracts. But that's mainly in like his 2-A keys

 

[Paul_Frank]

What exactly is the opponent in a 3930 match?

The void or the screamers?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

The void is the product of the screamers, and the entity that emerges from it. That is what the profile is mainly for

 

[Paul_Frank]

So it's against the screamers

I still don't remember the screamers being said to make the void but meh

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

It's a general fact that pattern screamers produce certain effects and patterns when they overlap with reality. Some produce text, some produce patterns, and others produce glitches. The ones that these produce is the void, or at least produce all the strange phenomena associated with it.

 

[Ionliosite]

So can Flynn interact with the SCP?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

He can interact with it (meaning the percieved reality), but cannot kill it since he cannot effect type 1 abstracts

 

[Ionliosite]

So Flynn can't kill it, meanwhile 3930 can absorp him. So that makes this a stomp?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Actually no. How often does Flynn randomly commit mass murder?

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

Depends on which route he's in. If he's in a chaos mindset then it's possible

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

@OP what mindset is he in? I do not think it will change the outcome, but basically his only chance here is if he randomly starts erasing a shit ton of people from existence, or feed them to the void

 

[Yvel_Atsly]

I mean again, that's in his higher dimensional keys anyways

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Oh, so he won't be in that mindset?

I solidly vote for 3930. Flynn's only win condition is to very intentionally bring down the number of people that know about the void to bellow 10, which he must do by feeding them into the void. If he doesn't know to do this, then it is incredibly unlikely that he will. He is fully capable of incapacitating 3930, but won't in character. Therefore 3930 erases and absorbs him into the void. For these reasons, I vote SCP 3930