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...Actually, if this battle takes place in a swamp, Shrek has more wincons than people think, because they're literally surrounded by water. 3199's avoid water like the plague, because they become inert and lose their abilities when submerged.
 
A Stoned Orc said:
...Actually, if this battle takes place in a swamp, Shrek has more wincons than people think, because they're literally surrounded by water. 3199's avoid water like the plague, because they become inert and lose their abilities when submerged.
This hinges on the fact that Shrek knows 3199's weakness and wont just punch it. I agree that Shrek has several win conditions, but the end result should more or less be the same. 3199 overwhelms through offspring.
 
Paul Frank said:
No because 3199 will not be submerged in a swamp the water isn't deep enough
This battle takes place in Shrek's Swamp, where there is a pool of muddy water deep enough for Shrek to bathe in up past his waist. All he has to do is manage to trip the first instance, and it'll be submerged in water. Even then, many swamps in real life are higher than shoulder-level on most average men.

I agree, though, 3199 still takes this.
 
...I'd like to note with some amusement that the wincon I mentioned earlier would mean that Shrek would never be able to rid himself of the creature. It'd forever be in his swamp, lest the fight start all over again.
 
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