Scarlet Witch vs Kaguya

[Schnee_One]

Scarlet Witch remains the only 5A Kaguya hasn't fought in the MCU, so let's see what she's got.

Speed and versions need no explanation.

Scarlet Witch:

Kaguya Ōtsutsuki:

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Gotta love the profiles whose Powers and Abilities section ends with "etc."

 

[Schnee_One]

bump

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Why is destroying the mindstone 5-A? Don't each stones have differing powerlevels?

Still, kaguya can easly win by just teleporting into higher gravity pocket dimension or teleporting an attack behind her with ash bones

 

[DMB_1]

Why is destroying the mindstone 5-A? Don't each stones have differing powerlevels?
Still, kaguya can easly win by just teleporting into higher gravity pocket dimension or teleporting an attack behind her with ash bones

She is 5-A via holding off Thanos for a short time while at the same time she was trying to destroy the mind-stone.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But the most she did was push thanos back, which is lifting strenght, and she failed to damage the barrier put up by him at all.

 

[Schnee_One]

Pushing someone back with an attack is not lifting strength...

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Pushing someone back with an attack is not lifting strength...

When they themselfes are completly unharmed, than yes, it only scales to lifting strenght.

 

[Schnee_One]

Not really.

Thanos is very clearly struggling to get to Scarlet Witch, if his shields were 5A he'd walk right through it

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Not really.
Thanos is very clearly struggling to get to Scarlet Witch, if his shields were 5A he'd walk right through it

That is not how it works.


Someones AP does not mean that they can push against an enemie harder. Someone with peak human lifting strenght will not be able to push someone with class lifting strenght.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Lifting Strength is defined as the mass that an individual can lift on Earth. Pushing and pulling feats are also considered a part of this statistic.


That said, it is a common feature within fiction to feature characters capable of vastly greater physical striking strength energy outputs than what would be required to lift weights that they are repeatedly shown to struggle with. As such, the two statistics should be evaluated separately

 

[Schnee_One]

She's not physically pushing him tho, she's using an attack

And you know the drill by now, make a CRT

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Gar I'm beginning to get the sense you didn't even watch the tutorial I gave you

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

She's not physically pushing him tho, she's using an attack
And you know the drill by now, make a CRT

Because pushing with magic still only scales to lifting strenght, as you can see in her profile, where her magic and she herself have different lifting strenghts altogether, and one was already made

 

[Schnee_One]

And you know the drill by now, make a CRT

Stop derailing and do this.

Yes and it was agreed she should be 5A.

 

[Golden_Void]

Its still lifting strength. Telekinesis is using mental energy, but you can still have lifting strength applied to telekinesis.

 

[Schnee_One]

That was a Beam last I checked not telikinesis.

But whateves. I'll wait for the CRT and see what happens.

 

[Golden_Void]

She uses Psionic energy, which I assume has some relation to mental energy.

 

[AstralKing7]

i dont even know how to debate this lol. How does she attack and what attack did she use that was even 5A?? Is it only one attack and how consisten is it?? Is it destructive attacks or are they just psyhic waves that arent phyiscal but instead meant she her profile says on the same level as the mind stone. This means kaguya could have some resistance to it some

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Its an energy blast

 

[Golden_Void]

Witch gets absolutely trashed, she still is just a regular human with energy blasts

 

[Schnee_One]

Stomp?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

kaguya can absorb mental energy based powers, and she can absorb 5-A amounts of energies, so probably

 

[Schnee_One]

Exkasu Sterminatious

 

[AstralKing7]

bruh i just realized Kaguya can absorb 5A attacks *facepalm* lmao how did i not realize that sooner

 

[Frantzy12]

what?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

what?

what what?

 

[AstralKing7]

the fact that she has 5A energy levels from absorbing the chakra from that earth means that Kaguya can absorb 5A energy with rinnegan and should be able to negate them

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Worse comes toworse she uses it to create a gieant cancerous monster like when naruto threw the bijuu rasenshuriken at her

 

[Golden_Void]