Satsuki vs meliodas Low 7-B

[Livinmeme]

Bakuzan is a 6-A weapon.

And that doesn't matter because durability and heat resistance is not the same. We have accepted heat to ignore durability

 

[DaReaperMan]

Nah. Mel and zeldris were taught by the greatest demons in the demon clan on how to use a sword and other stuff and Zeldris can use an attack that is essentially considered a full react. I think though Mel doesn't have that ability he should still be just as good with a sword

this means jack shit without feats mate.

 

[Arkenis]

And mel range is thousands of kilometers, and the heat still doing damage to satsuki even if the atack doesn't directly hit

his page only says kilometers with darkness. can u not argue things not on the page? or at least show some evidence for this

 

[Arkenis]

this means jack shit without feats mate.

Check meliodas page

 

[azontr]

Nah. Mel and zeldris were taught by the greatest demons in the demon clan on how to use a sword and other stuff and Zeldris can use an attack that is essentially considered a full react. I think though Mel doesn't have that ability he should still be just as good with a sword

I don't know how skilled those demons are so I can't really compare that my guy

And that doesn't matter because durability and heat resistance is not the same. We have accepted heat to ignore durability

Uh, no? Tanking heat equates to durability? If Meliodas's heat isn't 6-A it can't burn Bakuzan?

 

[DaReaperMan]

And that doesn't matter because durability and heat resistance is not the same. We have accepted heat to ignore durability

Heat ignores durability to an EXTENT yes, not a tier 7 damaging a 6-A level.

I will get this match removed after the nnt upgrades

Okay that's fine lmao

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Nah. Mel and zeldris were taught by the greatest demons in the demon clan on how to use a sword and other stuff and Zeldris can use an attack that is essentially considered a full react. I think though Mel doesn't have that ability he should still be just as good with a sword

Tbh titles doesn't really mean much if it just shows you basic sword play

 

[Livinmeme]

Heat ignores durability to an EXTENT yes, not a tier 7 damaging a 6-A level.

Okay that's fine lmao

no, again heat can ignore durability, those are two different things

 

[DaReaperMan]

Check meliodas page

his page gives nothing for me to believe he can handle the below just dipping into KLK's absurdity.

Taking down a small army of life fibers using just her sharpened toenail while having her hands restrained and without wearing her Kamui immediately after being tortured nonstop for a month straight
Also regularly bypassing the senses of and skill stomping a guy who has perfect omnidirectional senses for several hundred miles which is precise enough to sense people's thoughts and analyze his opponents' entire fighting style just from the sound of their heartbeat, the twitches of their muscles, the subtle movement of their eyes, and the sound of their breathing.
As a child she took down a gang of 500 armed men with just her sheer willpower, and the same aforementioned guy with enhanced senses outright admitted that even in his prime he wouldnt have been able to beat her as a child

 

[Arkenis]

I will get this match removed after the nnt upgrades

dude the match is not unfair holy shit.

 

[azontr]

no, again heat can ignore durability, those are two different things

Not to that extent. Heat energy still equates to attack potency even if it has limited durability negation depending on the temperature. Saying Meliodas can burn a 6-A weapon is merely an NLF.

 

[DaReaperMan]

no, again heat can ignore durability, those are two different things

To an extent. IE, you can't harm a 6-A with Low 7-B heat.

 

[Arkenis]

Tbh titles doesn't really mean much if it just shows you basic sword play

yea but full react is like an insanely good sword attack. I mean its literally surpasses the goddess clan.

 

[Majinere566]

Isn't a 6-A attack against a low 7-b durability kind of spite?

 

[DaReaperMan]

yea but full react is like an insanely good sword attack. I mean its literally surpasses the goddess clan.

means nothing without their feats of skill

 

[azontr]

yea but full react is like an insanely good sword attack. I mean its literally surpasses the goddess clan.

That's not a feat without context. I can assure you that Sanageyama has better reactions and that Satsuki absolutely obliterates him even as a literal child.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Isn't a 6-A attack against a low 7-b durability kind of spite?

Not really, seeing at it's only 6-A in cutting power and durability, Sats ain't about to bust a continent with it in this key

 

[Arkenis]

Just wanna note, in reality and in some verses, when characters go fast or hit really hard it shows or implies how hot the attack is, such as punches vaporizing stuff or how Ichigo sword slash destroyed a mountain. So yea heat wont always bypass durability. Like lets be honest here, you're not effecting a planetary level guy due to you having really hot fire.

 

[Livinmeme]

Apperently with this thread heat does ignore durability to an extent

https://vsbattles.com/threads/heat-cold-durability-negation.134006/

Someone gived an example of heat being able to damage a 6-B guy so yeah...

 

[Arkenis]

That's not a feat without context. I can assure you that Sanageyama has better reactions and that Satsuki absolutely obliterates him even as a literal child.

Full react is infinite speed. I don't think Sanageyama has that. (joke)

 

[speedster352]

Tbh titles doesn't really mean much if it just shows you basic sword play

• Effortlessly defeats the Chief Holy Knight of Liones
• • Senses an incoming magical attack from 7.3 miles away.
  • Senses individual magical auras from a distance away
  • Casually deflects hidden projectiles from behind.

his page gives nothing for me to believe he can handle the below just dipping into KLK's absurdity.

Taking down a small army of life fibers using just her sharpened toenail while having her hands restrained and without wearing her Kamui immediately after being tortured nonstop for a month straight
Also regularly bypassing the senses of and skill stomping a guy who has perfect omnidirectional senses for several hundred miles which is precise enough to sense people's thoughts and analyze his opponents' entire fighting style just from the sound of their heartbeat, the twitches of their muscles, the subtle movement of their eyes, and the sound of their breathing.
As a child she took down a gang of 500 armed men with just her sheer willpower, and the same aforementioned guy with enhanced senses outright admitted that even in his prime he wouldnt have been able to beat her as a child

Meliodas has 3000+ experience with war and fighting and etc

 

[azontr]

Apperently with this thread heat does ignore durability to an extent

https://vsbattles.com/threads/heat-cold-durability-negation.134006/

Someone gived an example of heat being able to damage a 6-B guy so yeah...

That is completely dependant on the temperature of the heat and its tier. Case dependant, not an argument here.

 

[Livinmeme]

Just wanna note, in reality and in some verses, when characters go fast or hit really hard it shows or implies how hot the attack is, such as punches vaporizing stuff or how Ichigo sword slash destroyed a mountain.

How that matters anyway? wouldn't those character get heat resistance anyway?

 

[DaReaperMan]

• Effortlessly defeats the Chief Holy Knight of Liones
• • Senses an incoming magical attack from 7.3 miles away.
  • Senses individual magical auras from a distance away
  • Casually deflects hidden projectiles from behind.

Meliodas has 3000+ experience with war and fighting and etc

Oh wow, shit Sanageyama can do while literally blindfolded

Life Fibers have billions of years of that and Sats kicks their ass regularly

 

[Majinere566]

Not really, seeing at it's only 6-A in cutting power and durability, Sats ain't about to bust a continent with it in this key

It still would warrant an immediate one shot tho? And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that against the wikis rules?

 

[azontr]

Meliodas has 3000+ experience with war and fighting and etc

That's not a skill feat, again. Just having 3000 years of experience doesn't mean anything.

You realize that Sanageyama's senses go for literal miles to the point he could see out of the damn atmosphere, right?

 

[Livinmeme]

That is completely dependant on the temperature of the heat and its tier. Case dependant, not an argument here.

1. The heat of mel atack is far hotter than sats resitance
2. Wouldn't that apply to your argument also (We don't know if the tier difference is enough, to make it case by case)

 

[speedster352]

It still would warrant an immediate one shot tho? And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that against the wikis rules?

Exactly I tried telling them that but they wouldn't listen I will get this removed after nnt upgrades don't worry

 

[azontr]

1. The heat of mel atack is far hotter than sats resitance
2. Wouldn't that apply to your argument also (We don't know if the tier difference is enough, to make it case by case)

You're arguing he can burn Bakuzan because of heat dura neg. His heat isn't 6-A. He cannot. Again, it's case dependant.

 

[DaReaperMan]

It still would warrant an immediate one shot tho? And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that against the wikis rules?

Meliodas needs to be sushi'd horizontally or cut in half vertically due to regen, IE, probably not gonna be a stomp, just a wincon.

1. The heat of mel atack is far hotter than sats resitance

Proof?

 

[Nierre]

Nah. Mel and zeldris were taught by the greatest demons in the demon clan on how to use a sword and other stuff and Zeldris can use an attack that is essentially considered a full react

Are you even reading what azontr is saying...?

Uzu Sanageyama, according to his profile, "has perfect omnidirectional vision and precision sight that allows him to read even the slightest muscle twitch of an opponent" (Enhanced Senses) and with Tengatsu he's able to "read an opponent so thoroughly that just by observing their preparatory motions he is able to instantly analyze their attacks, blocks, and fighting techniques" (Information Analysis and Analytical Prediction).

Uzu stated that Satsuki is so far above him that he would only barely be able to beat her middle school self is he had his Mk 1 uniform (First Key) and she held back.

Meaning despite all the skill and extremely skilled senses that he has, she would still be able to beat him as a middle schooler while holding back. She is far stronger than she was as a child, and even scales higher than his second and third key (which grants him Extrasensory Perception, Clairvoyance, and Instinctive Reaction). Ryuko was able to easily overpower him and 3 other Student Council Members of the same caliber, and Satsuki fought Ryuko to a standstill.

Unless Meliodas has something remotely similar in terms of impressive statements and or showings of skill, then Satsuki utterly stomps Meliodas in skill.

 

[Livinmeme]

You're arguing he can burn Bakuzan because of heat dura neg. His heat isn't 6-A. He cannot. Again, it's case dependant.

Heat doesn't need AP to burn, having heat resistance and normal durability are two different things. There are materials who have high melting temperature, well another have low but higher durability

 

[speedster352]

1. The heat of mel atack is far hotter than sats resitance
2. Wouldn't that apply to your argument also (We don't know if the tier difference is enough, to make it case by case)

Also hellblaze has resistance negation

 

[azontr]

Heat doesn't need AP to burn, having heat resistance and normal durability are two different things. There are materials who have high melting temperature, well another have low but higher durability

Heat dura neg is only LIMITED. It isn't full on dura neg, which is why it is CASE DEPENDANT as to what it can burn. If Meliodas has yet to burn something 6-A, he cannot burn it at all.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Also hellblaze has resistance negation

O n l y f i r e

 

[Majinere566]

Meliodas needs to be sushi'd horizontally or cut in half vertically due to regen, IE, probably not gonna be a stomp, just a wincon.

Sure if how she's cutting him isn't with a 6-A sword, that's just a one shot.

Plus why exactly is her cutting him up vertically or horizontally a win con?

 

[Livinmeme]

Meliodas needs to be sushi'd horizontally or cut in half vertically due to regen, IE, probably not gonna be a stomp, just a wincon.

Proof?

It could vaporize a forest who is inmune to regular fire, well that doesn't seem very impressive, but you need high temperatures to vaporize wood and if is not enough it will just turn into ash

 

[azontr]

It could vaporize a forest who is inmune to regular fire, well that doesn't seem very impressive, but you need high temperatures to vaporize wood and if is not enough it will just turn into ash

So are you just not going to respond to my argument?

Heat dura neg is only LIMITED. It isn't full on dura neg, which is why it is CASE DEPENDANT as to what it can burn. If Meliodas has yet to burn something 6-A, he cannot burn it at all.

 

[Arkenis]

Are you even reading what azontr is saying...?

Uzu Sanageyama, according to his profile, "has perfect omnidirectional vision and precision sight that allows him to read even the slightest muscle twitch of an opponent" (Enhanced Senses) and with Tengatsu he's able to "read an opponent so thoroughly that just by observing their preparatory motions he is able to instantly analyze their attacks, blocks, and fighting techniques" (Information Analysis and Analytical Prediction).

Uzu stated that Satsuki is so far above him that he would only barely be able to beat her middle school self is he had his Mk 1 uniform (First Key) and she held back.

Meaning despite all the skill and extremely skilled senses that he has, she would still be able to beat him as a middle schooler while holding back. She is far stronger than she was as a child, and even scales higher than his second and third key (which grants him Extrasensory Perception, Clairvoyance, and Instinctive Reaction). Ryuko was able to easily overpower him and 3 other Student Council Members of the same caliber, and Satsuki fought Ryuko to a standstill.

Unless Meliodas has something remotely similar in terms of impressive statements and or showings of skill, then Satsuki utterly stomps Meliodas in skill.

yea but Mel is god

 

[Livinmeme]

O n l y f i r e

What did he mean by this