You assume senses can counter Fate Manip, and thats NLF if there's no feats. Show me feats in One Piece fate manipulation.
There are plenty of feats mate, you gotta stop with the downplay. Chapter 882 of the Manga we have a Kenbunshoku doing exactly that, later in the same chapter another character does it again. Luffy does the same exact thing with his Kenbunshoku against Kaido
No one's saying Zoro creates new futures, they're saying because Yagyu and MHX countered Musashi via skill and actively blocked her attempts through her heavenly eye, Zoro's precognition should foresee whatever "final outcome" her eye leads her to and he'd actively take the action to counter it, thus nullifying said outcome. He wouldn't literally created an entire timespace or something.
Kenbunshoku Haki low key does that, literally anyone can change the future based on their actions. One of the reasons why the future changes when two Kenbunshoku Haki users clash, they see the future ahead of time and they do whatever to change said future they've seen.
Go to the others >;^) checkmate I've won the thread.
But is that Fate Manipulation?
I think this is proof that somebody isn't touching the "proof" at all- even when there weren't any
All three songs are tier 0. I mean, he said that he is never going to give you up -u-
I never expected such a fabulous debunk. With this scan we proved em wrong.
it include that as well, but its kinda minor to Fate Manip it has.
Is zoro a tier 1 character? I never said there was no limits I said he can't use haki anymore because its cut down and he has not shown to be able to resist concept manip.
Precognition negation wasn't a thing already? We've had a lot of Kenbun users changing futures through Kenbun against other Kenbun users after all. (Sanji with Kata, Luffy with Kata, etc)
Surprisingly not lol.
Obviously not, but it just sounds like nlf to say she can cut anyone's concept and every concept just because she can cut down the supernatural (that doesn't even scale to her in the first place.) Are there instances where she actively cut anyone's supernatural concept and they weren't DRASTICALLY weaker?
She have feats of cutting tier 1 character in LB1 Ivan the Terrible.
Is the fate of one piece set in stone once its viewed like it is in Jojos? if its not then its not really going to help
Shouldn't it get elaboration on how it's used anyway? To Differentiate between traditional precognition and Haki's precog (which is reliant on emotions/Intent/Thought and "breath", whatever that refers to in Zoro's case). It just seems far too layered.
That's post zero.
idk i didn't even remember she has concept manip lol. However if zoro does not have concept resist and is 3d then there is no reason to think that her concept manip won't work
Yeah post zero, which is Servant Musashi.
ooohh that's interesting. I've never thought about it like that wow.
????????????????? Are you serious??????
Yea i got baited lol
There was a whole thing earlier about that, yes; She couldn't fight Yagyu with her heavenly eye because he was far better than her as a fighter, and she entirely missed cutting MHX's arm, which was made blatantly obvious that she was aiming for it. There's all the evidence in the world that it isn't as set in stone that she'll always hit you. It's like I said, "the best outcome" isn't always the one that results in her unconditional victory.
Yagyu have something that counter Musashi and thus she needed to develop the ability to create new future. MHX they say she blocked while I disagree completely with that notion but if you want to see it yourself and decide:
And that is before Shimousa, and the scan says hand not arm.
We literally see her choosing a win over Ishun if she has a wincon she can choose it.
Post Zero Musashi. I typed "post zero" so much I'm gonna be saying it in my sleep
