Either some weird Air Manipulation or another Justification for his Intelligence Rating.
uhh..why not?
Making a self sustaining tiny tornado to hold up his trash, when we have no idea how he even makes it in the first place. We have no idea how he could apply that to a combat scenario.
i meant that i can imagine sans just starting the tornado with tk. not constantly sustaining it.
He wouldn't have it himself, that's on whatever unknown means he had to track the anomaly. Knowing about it isn't Enhanced Senses because natural senses don't let anyone do that, therefore it's Extrasensory Perception. If a robot had the feat just like that walking and then knowing about the anomaly I bet there wouldn't be much of an issue with it having it, a machine is no different and we don't even know how Sans knew it.
Everything minus the tornado, the rest doesn't matter. You are the one to say that he would make a machine to create that, he could have already had the machine, he could had already worked on part of it or things that would make making it easy, he could have created the tornado somewhere else and moved it in his room. And the "machine" can be as simple as some small device, we don't know. As I see it it's not worth a Possibly.
Extrasensory Perception is a 6th sense. Something like being able to detect energy, or some other characteristic of a character, like their fear or whatnot. And this isn't a profile for a random robot that can detect anomalies, it's for Sans who has presumably found a way to track anomalies, or at least has access to reports which show this. Saying that Sans should have Extrasensory Perception via preparation due to research he has done in the past is like saying every character who possesses a magnifying glass or a telescope should have Enhanced Senses via prep.
It's not. I'm not saying it's some everyday occurrence, mind, but in Undertale that's supposedly possible to figure out simply through research and science. It's an intelligence feat perhaps, but it's not a superpower.
The rest does matter, it gives us an idea of what Sans would do in-character, which is the way that requires the least effort. "Creating the tornado somewhere else" doesn't reduce the number of assumptions - the question is still how he created the tornado, but also raises the question of how he moved the tornado, which could also be explained by air manip potentially. A device being small doesn't make it more or less complex - the computers of today are far more complex than the computers we had decades ago, yet are also far smaller. And yeah, he maybe could have had a handy tornado-maker-3000 lying around, but bringing up differently worded assumptions of the tornado being created by technology ultimately doesn't change the arguments.
No, the page is just bad. Extrasensory Perception are any senses/perceptions beyond what can logically be sensed, hence the name, and hence all the vast uses Clairvyance has is done via Extrasensory Perception, as the former page points out by going against what the latter page claims. The even bigger Cosmic Awareness claims it to be associated with Clairvyance and Enhanced Senses.
Cheap thing to say, if a human could look as good as they could with a magnifying glass or a telescope then yes, they should have Enhanced Senses. A normal human having Enhanced Senses via prep is therefore correct, but too redundant to matter and for us to list. Detect an anomaly (singular btw) is a big deal that should be listed.
"In Undertale that's supposedly possible to figure out simply through research and science" isn't a fact, in any setting it inpartially means the same from Real Life to way more craxy verses where the feat's not very notable.
The rest does not matter, you are assuming that because he often doesn't put much effect then in this case he must also do the same, but this is not those other cases, those other cases don't built up any consistency of everything he does that should aply to other things we know about him as those other things exist and should be judged on their own, you don't know if he didn't put effort and it's entirely possible for him to have put some more effort. This guy whose lazy was also implied to have knowledge in science and knows about an anomaly in the timeline via some reports, therefore there are times he isn't lazy, therefore making look illogical that he always no put any effort into anything he does that we don't know the context of. Those things that would need some effort in turn have to do with science, and he doesn't show Air Manip on his own, let alone to make air move in a way and have that being self-sustained, so it would make perfect sense that he could have put some scientific effort into the tornado, even as small as to already having the means to create it and doing so. Or he could have created it with another monster while chilling in his room. Or the tornado could have been created over time, while maybe or maybe not the process that makes it so needs little effort to be done. We don't know, claiming what's more likely within what we don't know is speculation.
He teleported it because moving is for people who isn't lazy and that's within what he can do, we don't know. Him having Air Manip likewise raises the questions of how he has that power, why does he have that power when he already shows others and monsters don't have that many, why he never uses it, does his brother have it? All as irrelevant as to how he created the tornado if he did so somewhere else and how he moved it, and answered by the same; "he can do that/has it and it doesn't matter". If we don't need to know how he has the power then why would we need to know how he created the tornado if he did so somewhere else? They're both made up.
He could have brought a TV remove-size thing, pushed a button and that's it. That's pretty low effort, but again it doesn't need to be low effort.
Sure, it's the same. I would imagine that given the DT stuff monsters messed with the ability to detect that cosmic thing could be related to DT users' ability to feel things like Asriel. But Info Analysis is pretty much the same power but more specific, and more used machines wise.
i'm just gonna bring this up again. why doesn't sans have info analysis
It's... literally in the name? Extrasensory Perception. Being able to perceive beyond the standard 5 senses. And just like how each of the 5 senses allow us to perceive some given characteristic of something (e.g. the sound energy it emits, how light is reflected/absorbed by it), an extra, or "sixth" sense would allow something similar. And honestly, our Clairvoyance page is the one that needs fixing. The definition you gave is pretty much copy and pasted from wikipedia, and it lists enhanced sight as a form of Clairvoyance which is just wrong.
Worded weirdly, but seems that you agree that if they need the magnifying glass/telescope to see things they otherwise wouldn't be able to, then they shouldn't have Enhanced Senses? It doesn't follow then that Enhanced Senses via prep would be correct, nor that it would be "redundant" to list if it were. We should index all powers regardless of "importance", so if you agree that Enhanced Senses shouldn't be listed in this case, neither should ESP or whatever ability detecting the anomaly actually is.
Like I have already said, the rest does matter. When a creator, like Toby Fox, designs something they want to give off a certain impression, especially when it's something as personal as a room or a house. For Sans, everything in his room follows his usual demeanour - he's lazy (socks, clothes drawer, bed sheets). It would be illogical for something in this room to not follow this same pattern, as that would contradict the impression Toby would otherwise be trying to give. This is common sense. When you get into Sans' secret room behind the house, that's when you see stuff that would take effort - blueprints, some sort of large machine, which is where he's actually shown to have put effort into stuff. THAT correlates with the anomaly stuff he talks about - this is a hidden side to Sans that isn't otherwise known about by any of the other monsters you interact with. Ultimately, it IS entirely possible to claim what is more likely when we don't know for sure by examining the context and making assumptions which fit the logic provided to us.
Occam's Razor would like to have a word with you.
He should.
You're making up the idea that since it's beyond the standard 5 senses then it should limit itself to a 6°-like sense that sense thing alike the other senses, but being beyond those senses sets no limit to what can be sensed and so any amount of senses doing anything would just as be beyond normal perceptions. Likewise as it fits the name the Clairvoyance doesn't lie, another definition I got goes over it can perceive the future (Precog) or things beyond normal sensory contract, not talking of the latter for what it is, Extrasensory Perception, is just being overcomplicated for no reason.
They would have it but it would be redundant to list. Enhanced Senses via prep is correct but too redundant to list.
The tornado could very well be an outlier to what the rest would showcase, everything being disordered because Sans was lazy and that tornado being there for unknown reasons, that is objective and therefore doesn't fall into it being there due to Sans being lazy, nor is he 1-Dimensional and could have only done it via being lazy (Not even a 1-Dimensional character would be that simple). We could speculate how he could have had that there possible things like "He created the tornado just like that" and "He created it some minor technology he already had", and but just because the former makes more sense than the latter doesn't mean it should be dismissed as if it was impossible, it is possible because we don't know what made that tornado. If he did make the tornado via technology then that also fits his backgroud, only going against the made-up idea that he doesn't show things about it, and not even that as seeing a tornado like that doesn't inhereditaty mean science.
He does show teleporting when his brother can't and can prank across time and space or whatever the quote was via calls.
That was the example I could think of with the least effort, "it was helped by science" is more vague. What that implies can be whatever because we don't know.
Definition of a sense: "Any of the faculties by which stimuli from outside or inside the body are received and felt, as the faculties of hearing, sight, smell, touch, taste, and equilibrium". An extra sense would still fit the definition of a sense, but it would perceive some other stimulus separate from those five (six?).
Redundant with what?? Again, in the example, we've established that the person in question does not have Enhanced Senses otherwise. There's no redundancy to be had.
I've already explained why there's no logical reason for Toby to imply that Sans spent much effort on anything in his room, as he otherwise wouldn't give the intended impression that Sans is lazy. That's not being one-dimensional, that's being consistent with theming. I'm not saying it's impossible that Sans made the self-sustaining tornado through some sort of technology he had on hand or whatever, but that assumption is less likely than him simply creating it. The other half of your argument doesn't make any sense really, the only other times where Sans reveals his knowledge of science and technology is in a secret locked room behind the house and in the Genocide route. Every character when talking about Sans simply says how lazy he is, and if there's a clear instance otherwise then show me. Also, creating a self-sustaining tornado with technology definitely comes under science.
Sans' shortcuts are completely unrelated, what?
That assumes he has technology on hand which can do that, that it works simply with the press of a button and that it was done via technology in the first place. Claiming that Sans using technology is low effort also requires more assumptions, which would make air manip the more likely choice. Again, I think "possibly Air Manip" which isn't combat-applicable is more than fine.
