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Sakuya scolds her son.
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GER can't hurt her but she can't attack Giorno. Inconclusive.
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I don't understand why "GER vs a character they cannot kill" is such a trend on this wiki.
GER actually has to kill someone to put them into the death loop, and it cannot do that if they have durability several tiers above it.
GER actually has to kill someone to put them into the death loop, and it cannot do that if they have durability several tiers above it.
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Because his willpower manipulation can technically incap letting him win.
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Another boring Giorno Incon FRA
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AP gaps are fun if you're daring, but damn this is just exhausting.
Incon FRA.
Incon FRA.
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>son
You mean brother.
You mean brother.
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Giorno gets grounded grounded grounded grounded grounded grounded grounded for 3555555 years. I mean, INCON FRA
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correction: 3
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idk for what it's worth GR does have damage reflection that reflects damage of the organisms that he makes onto the attacker. He just doesnt use it often, kinda like life shots (but that's nderstandable, he used it on black sabbath and he almost died for it, that line was cut out of the anime iirc), although if he's forced to use damage reflect due to being at a stalemate he probably would after the first few hours of both sides standing there with nothing happening.
Although GER aint exactly evil and this opponent aint exactly evil either, he'd probably will power manip and stop the fight from hppening in the first place.
Although GER aint exactly evil and this opponent aint exactly evil either, he'd probably will power manip and stop the fight from hppening in the first place.
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Back then everybody believed that GER could just think and put you into a death loop. Now we know that GER actually has to kill the opponent to put them into a death loop.
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I'm not seeing Resistance to Willpower Manipulation on Sakuya's page. Giorno can simply set her will to fight to 0 and win automatically.
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It doesn't need to be stated. The ability prevents you from reaching reality, including the reality of death, so it can be inferred that the death loop is simply a part of GER's return to zero.Ted Ed said:
Its ability resets actions. Death is an action. If they have not taken the action of death, GER cannot reset their death.
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Since when does RtZ BFR people or ignore durability?
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Will power manip is basically win via incap or bfr.
Although RTZ ignores durability the killing part doesnt in canon. RTZ just effects you regardless of durability when it can.
Although id like to point out that GER does have damage Reflection, and while Giorno doesnt use it past a certain point for who knows what in universe explanation, im sure GER would use it evenually after finding out nothing he has works. Although he'd probably use will power manip before that anyway.
Although RTZ ignores durability the killing part doesnt in canon. RTZ just effects you regardless of durability when it can.
Although id like to point out that GER does have damage Reflection, and while Giorno doesnt use it past a certain point for who knows what in universe explanation, im sure GER would use it evenually after finding out nothing he has works. Although he'd probably use will power manip before that anyway.
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Sakuya could kill Giorno with a tap but that isn't happening any time soon. I'm voting Giorno via setting Sakuya's will to 0 and thus incapping her.
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incon fra
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Then that kind of makes this a stomp, does it not?LordUrien935 said:
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Damage reflection requires Sakuya to attack. And it's a bit of an NLF to assume that Giorno's life forms are going to be able to deflect a High 3-A, likely Low 2-C attack.Chariot190 said:
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Eh, I don't know. Nothing Sakuya does will actually work against Giorno but at the same time Giorno can't damage or kill her in any way, he can only incap her. It's more decisive than a stomp imo.
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Does Sakuya have any win conditions, other than "Giorno just decides for no reason that he's going to deactivate GER's ability"?
If not, then it's a stomp.
If not, then it's a stomp.
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Not really arbitary, if it reflects the damage back onto the opponent that the organisms took in question, it's not a matter of deflecting the 3-A attack itself but the damage done from the attack. It's a very small but extremely important distinction. It just depends on if you think it's deflecting the attack or the damage from the attack but from what we've seen it's the latter. But again, likely wont come to that, although it would be a nlf to claim that the damage reflection could deflect damage like getting blown to shit or vaporization, it hasnt shown anything that high. (although sak attacks via dismembering and stabbing and lacks the aoe and ony has the potency so that aint much of an issue).
>it's a stomp.
I have literally never seen a thread that didnt end with GER lol incap or get stomp. He's in a really odd place of being kinda weak for his hax so when someone ends up tanking his hax it's usually an ap stomp. But youre also not exactly wrong if there aint any wincon.
>it's a stomp.
I have literally never seen a thread that didnt end with GER lol incap or get stomp. He's in a really odd place of being kinda weak for his hax so when someone ends up tanking his hax it's usually an ap stomp. But youre also not exactly wrong if there aint any wincon.
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I mean, a lot of Diavolo's wins come from the fact that his enemies just don't have an answer to time skip and epitaph.
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I wouldn't say so. Cioccolata, Iluso, Sale (if he gets first hit. Sale in CQC is an absolute nightmare since he can vector lock for incap), Melone, Vladimir are incredibly hard to defeat.Ted Ed said:
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