Sakura vs Aang

[Gemmysaur]

Sakura does this faster than Aang can dance an attack.


The encircled things are human-sized apparently.

Aang was said to start in the Avatar state. Nowhere did it state does he start in his air bubble of doom, or in the air.

Also, 100m distance is a non-factor.

She is High Hypersonic+. At its lowest, being mach 50, can move 17,000 meters per second.

Yep.



Lel.

 

[Slaphappyjoy]

Aang getting blasted by azula in Ba Sing Se that seemed to take him down pretty damn quickl

That's not considered being in the AS, rather it's going into the AS. More importantly, the process we saw in that scene was Aang completing his opening of the chakras.

Aang was said to start in the Avatar state. Nowhere did it state does he start in his air bubble of doom, or in the air.
Also, 100m distance is a non-factor.

She is High Hypersonic+. At its lowest, being mach 50, can move 17,000 meters per second.

Yep.

-- It doesn't matter how fast she is, or how fast any shinobi are. Aang in the AS is omnicompetent in hand to hand combat, completely aware he is about to be hit, and has a multitude of options to impede the attack:

- He could simply guide her fist (or whatever she is striking to blitz with) off target.

- The easiest bending for him would be to airbend any of the path between them.

- The next easiest would be to earthbend the ground beneath her before or at the moment she starts the blitz.

- The most devastating would be to set her on fire, while combining the previous three, as she reaches a location close to where she misses her target.

-- Most of the responses are vastly underestimating the AS at Aang's degree in the cycle.

 

[Gemmysaur]

-- It doesn't matter how fast she is, or how fast any shinobi are. Aang in the AS is omnicompetent in hand to hand combat, completely aware he is about to be hit, and has a multitude of options to impede the attack:

- He could simply guide her fist (or whatever she is striking to blitz with) off target.

- The easiest bending for him would be to airbend any of the path between them.

- The next easiest would be to earthbend the ground beneath her before or at the moment she starts the blitz.

- The most devastating would be to set her on fire, while combining the previous three, as she reaches a location close to where she misses her target.

-- Most of the responses are vastly underestimating the AS at Aang's degree in the cycle.

Show me proof of anything you said.

He can't guide a fist flying far, far, far, far faster than anything he can percieve off target.

He can't make a stance to airbend anything when something is far, far, far, far faster than him, even then, Sakura might even just blast right through it.

Also, can you see the force of that punch blasting through the ground? It wouldn't even need to hit.

She can hit him far before he can even make a stance to earthbend.

Setting her on fire doesn't matter, she still hits him and heals away the damage.

Most of your responses are not taking into account that Sakura can move 17000 meters per second at the very least. The tiny 100m distance makes it a simple hopscotch away before she knocks Aang's head halfway across the city.

Your little omnicompetent something something is nothing. You don't even show anything to prove it.

 

[Slaphappyjoy]

Gemmysaur
- Roku explains Aang has the combined skill and knowledge of all his past lives (at least 1,000). When we see the statues at the Southern Air Temple, all the past Avatars have adult likenesses. If all of them were at least as humanly capable as kid Aang, then we can multiply his quantifiable attributes on this wikia by at least 1,000 for his AS.

- Pathik says Aang will have complete control over consciousness. Per "Light Chakra" explanation, Sakura's consciousness is connected to Aang's and vice versa. The "unconscious" portion of his mind will feel hers the moment her base emotions tell her to attack, which is before when she decides to atttack, which is before the moment she does attack (this is how he so effortlessly subdues Ozai on top of the rock pillar). Having multiplied his attributes for AS, he now leagues faster when airbending his way around the battle (which he doesn't need a stance for when moving his entire body to run). He is at least supersonic times 1,000. If anything, he blitzes her and wins.

- I say omnicompetent in hand to hand combat in comparison to humans, who are thus really slow in light of his exponential power amplification from past lives.

 

[Gemmysaur]

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He can have all the combined skill and knowledge he can get in avatar state, but how does that translate to having their stats? Where are you even getting this? Give me sources that it amps their "quantifiable attributes" to prove it, because until then, Sakura knocks Aang's head off.

He can connect to Sakura's consciousness all he wants, he still isn't dodging anything (see Sasuke vs Lee in Part 1 where Sasuke having the sharingan to read Lee's moves is moot when Lee is still very much faster than him), also source for this wankage that he has complete control over consciousness?

Also, this subduing Ozai, did you mean prior to energy-bending his power out? That was seismic sense Toph taught him, not some consciousness-tapping asspull.

Omnicompetent is still nothing when Sakura is still leagues faster than Aang who has shown none of the things you are saying.

Reply back when you stop presenting random things without any sort of proof or source or anything at all to show that it is credible.

 

[Alakabamm]

1. No, he does not get an unquantifiable stat boost because of Avatar Mode. Quit the wanking. Also, it says skill and knowledge, not power anywhere, so strike two against that type of ridiculous claim.

2. Aang is not connected consciousness wise to Sakura. That would be an invasion of Chakra and in verse equalization terms would not go well for Aang because of his pitiful reaction speed.

3. Omnicompetent aang is wanking. Get over yourself.

 

[Slaphappyjoy]

- I guess what would be clearer is Roku's line: "The glow, the combination of all your past lives". It's not just skill and knowledge, the AS is the "combination" as a whole. He has at least 1,000x (per Roku saying 1,000 lifetimes) boost because of this.

- The seismic sense only tells Aang that Ozai was moving, not how or that Ozai would try to blow fire in Aang's face. Yet Aang had a very specific response to all of Ozai's movements in that scene.

Alakabamm
Did you even watch Avatar?

 

[Gemmysaur]

Haha nope.

I still do not see any source to make credible your little claims.

Seismic sense tells him the movement. Look at how Toph fights, she is very specific in her counters.

I still don't see how Sakura cannot just blitz Aang's head off.

 

[Alakabamm]

Yes, but apparently you did not watch Avatar. You're taking random things, twisting them to absurd assumptions and trying to use that to scale. It's not going to go well here if you do such blatant evasion of the Avatar's abilities.

Is the Avatar essentially a spirit intended to build up power over countless generations? Yes. Is the avatar's power increased whatever fold times their amount of past lives? Heck no and this was certainly never confirmed

You don't even deserve this kind of response from me tbh.

 

[Aparajita]

Here is the explaination of the Avatar States "The knowledge AND POWER" of the previous lives.

And Power.

 

[Alakabamm]

Did you listen to your own youtube clip? It says skills and knowledge. Jesus.

 

[Aparajita]

I hate downplayers and wankers of AtLA.

Aang can see people's movements through Seismic Sense and their INTENTIONS through Energy Bending, which is why he was able to effortlessly take away Yakones' bending, despite Yakones able to Blood Bend (Body Control) without the Full Moon.

Aang best feat is the Destruction of Old Iron's Golem, which was the Size of a Mountai and made of Iron that was strong enough to resist Island level attacks.

 

[Aparajita]

Jesus is right. Listen to the whole thing. 3:39 seconds, Roku says "To focus their energies through your body"

 

[Gemmysaur]

"The avatar state is a defense mechanism, designed to empower you the skills and knowledge of all the past avatars. The glow is the combination of your past lives, focusing their energy through your body.

In the avatar state, you are at your most powerful, but also at your most vulnerable. If you are killed in the avatar state, the reincarnation cycle will be broken, and the avatar will cease to exist."

All this told me is that the avatar state amps their bending to their strongest state, and they gain the knowledge and experience of their predecessors. Nowhere does it state that they get amped stats.

With that said, Aang's bending being amped by avatar state is still next to useless against an opponent who can knock his head across the city in one shot before he can react.


Wank Punch (Wo)Man.

 

[Alakabamm]

Okay, since you continue to spout nonsense, let me start.

1. You have a quote in your post that says "knowledge and power" when it appears NOWHERE in the video. Your pathetic attempt to make up for this blatant misuse of video material is to claim that some hokey pokey "focus their energies through their body, hurr durr" quote means that Aang gets some sort of 1000x all stats power boost. It doesn't and it never will.

2. Blood Bending: Your interpretation of what has been going in this thread is not accurate, because sensing intentions is nowhere near the level of hax that Aang's "consciousness" ability was being hyped as. Even if the Energy Bending thing is true - which is very very debatable, by the way - then it still wouldn't matter because Sakura is much much faster than him.

3. That Golem is nowhere near the size of a mountain (I'm too lazy to pixel scale, but anyone with a sense of distance can tell it is not) and Avatar Kyoshi's little wave trick is not Island Level at all.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Aang best feat is the Destruction of Old Iron's Golem, which was the Size of a Mountai and made of Iron that was strong enough to resist Island level attacks.

Oh. Did you mean the golem where Toph and friends had to bend the armor off for Aang to actually be able to do something to it?

Nice try using something without putting in the context.

The Yakone thing shows what exactly? It only shows he can take away bending via Energy Bending, not via some fancy sensing intentions stuff you keep trying to wank.

 

[Aparajita]

First off, buddy, you need to calm the hell down. This is literally the first thing i've said in this thread since i said it was a Spite with the speed difference.

I get on this site to have an enjoyable time, debating with (supposedly) other like minded individuals, but if you're going to be an asshole, i'll just find myself a different thread.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Okay, this is getting no where. Bound to be a potential flame war.....closing this now.

 

[Alakabamm]

God knows why you came here when you lie to me on a site that is made to debate facts.