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Saitama vs. Raditz

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I dont think you realize just how op current goku is at the moment. He threatend to destroy the entire universe i dont think crashing into the moon at light speeds is gonna even faze him when he was fighting a good of destruction who makes childs play of destroy planets with absolute ease. Beerus destroyed a planet with his finger and another planet with a small ki ball. Goku clearly has taken more powerful attacks than those he used on those planets and he was completly fine.
 
Meh... I think ScrewAttack was absolutely right.

"If you had a Goku that was as strong as Superman, would you even want him" -Boomstick

He's not even as strong as Superman now and Goku still bores me, which sucks because I loved him when I was younger...
 
LeopoldTheBrave said:
Meh... I think ScrewAttack was absolutely right.
"If you had a Goku that was as strong as Superman, would you even want him" -Boomstick

He's not even as strong as Superman now and Goku still bores me, which sucks because I loved him when I was younger...
Goku`s whole character is to constantly surpass his limits. He is still doing so the only difference is that those above him are literal gods who are even far more op than he is. Screwattack is generally frowned upon around these parts. It is agreed goku would beat most versions of superman only a few versions of superman could beat goku.
 
Well even if Goku could survive hitting the moon from Earth at light speed without being fazed, that still doesn't bring down Saitama since he also survived that and was unfazed.

I think Saitama takes this easily since Raditz was killed by Piccolo who could destroy the moon at that time. Plus Saitama has the speed advantage, he can survive the vacuum of space by holding his breath yadda yadda yadda.
 
His DC is not enough to hurt Raditz. Raditz has already tanked casual Moon level attacks (Actually closer to Small Planet level), and Saitama is only listed as Moon level due to casually overpowering a Multi-Continent level attack.
 
I say saitama should be able to hurt raditz because saitama is at moon level but that was a casual saitama. I am not gonna speculate that a bloodlusted saitama is gonna one shot a planet because he hasnt been shown to yet but he has been shown to overpower a multi-continental attack easily so he should at the very least be able to hurt raditz.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
I say saitama should be able to hurt raditz because saitama is at moon level but that was a casual saitama. I am not gonna speculate that a bloodlusted saitama is gonna one shot a planet because he hasnt been shown to yet but he has been shown to overpower a multi-continental attack easily so he should at the very least be able to hurt raditz.
Hurt him yes kill him, we have to wait and see what OPM's power will be like.
 
Now that i think about it,raditz is gonna be upgraded to sub realistic so he and saitama should be around the same speed.Raditz has the higher dc the only reason i said saitama was because he was faster and could eventually bring raditz down but because they are around the same speed i say raditz takes this.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
Now that i think about it,raditz is gonna be upgraded to sub realistic so he and saitama should be around the same speed.Raditz has the higher dc the only reason i said saitama was because he was faster and could eventually bring raditz down but because they are around the same speed i say raditz takes this.
Raditz is going to be sub-relativistic +
 
It's sad though how the most wanked characters are also the most downplayed. We've seen Radtiz's limits and the full extent of his power. Saitama hasn't even had a chance to "bare his fangs" yet, as Boros puts it.

It even says on Saitama's page likely far higher than 5-C

I still think it's unfair to use Saitama in VS debates yet when he hasn't even tried or struggled in a battle.
 
LeopoldTheBrave said:
It's sad though how the most wanked characters are also the most downplayed. We've seen Radtiz's limits and the full extent of his power. Saitama hasn't even had a chance to "bare his fangs" yet, as Boros puts it.
It even says on Saitama's page likely far higher than 5-C

I still think it's unfair to use Saitama in VS debates yet when he hasn't even tried or struggled in a battle.
Its really not surprising that the most wanked are the most downplayed its actually quite logical. When you have an extreme towards one end you also get a counter extreme towards the oppoiste end. In this case however i do think the "downplay" is neccessary, though i dont think its downplay at all.We have to go off the feats saitama has shown and not just go with saitama is limitless when he hasnt proven himself to be so. I would prefer if all saitama battles be banned until his limits have been proven but if we are gonna use him then we have to go by what feats he has shown so far.
 
Till i see something from Saitama, i would say Raditz here who is counting moon level+ attacks from both Goku and Piccolo casually and is slightly faster
 
tbh you guys need to lay off the Saitama vs X. He's a joke character and the joke is he's stronger than everyone and he will never actually get a fight that challenges him. He's basically Superman as a joke (though he is obviously stronger than every single one of Superman's forms, combined).

If you want an interesting discussion put Raditz against Boros
 
Mugi is strong said:
tbh you guys need to lay off the Saitama vs X. He's a joke character and the joke is he's stronger than everyone and he will never actually get a fight that challenges him. He's basically Superman as a joke (though he is obviously stronger than every single one of Superman's forms, combined).
If you want an interesting discussion put Raditz against Boros
I agree with the first part, but you can't really be serious about Saitama being stronger than all forms of Superman combined.
 
Saitama's not really a joke character, though. His immense strength puts him into a lot of funny situations (and he himself is pretty hilarious), but he's not strictly a joke character. He does feel things and have struggles, even if all of them so far have been internal. It's part of what makes him (and everyone else in OPM) so interesting.
 
He is more of a parody(as is said on his profile I believe). Instead of watching him train and grow stronger we instead are watching more and more of his strength be revealed.
 
I s u-c l o n e said:
Mugi is strong said:
tbh you guys need to lay off the Saitama vs X. He's a joke character and the joke is he's stronger than everyone and he will never actually get a fight that challenges him. He's basically Superman as a joke (though he is obviously stronger than every single one of Superman's forms, combined).
If you want an interesting discussion put Raditz against Boros
I agree with the first part, but you can't really be serious about Saitama being stronger than all forms of Superman combined.
I'm dead ass serious. If ONE/Murata did a collab with DC in which Saitama fought Superman (let's say Cosmic Armor Superman because that looks like the most powerful one). Saitama would absolutely destroy him, all while holding back.

You might say "But Superman can kill everyone in the universe, including the creators in real life just by blinking" "Superman destroyed existence itself just by coughing" "Superman lifted infinity, killed every single tier 0 character, became real and he beat Goku in that Deathbattle video"

The reason Saitama would win is here. It's funny, that's why. If you dudes are going to seriously discuss him against someone, at least make it a joke character like Bobobo, Bugs Bunny, or Squirrel Girl.
 
Mugi is strong said:
The reason Saitama would win is here. It's funny, that's why. If you dudes are going to seriously discuss him against someone, at least make it a joke character like Bobobo, Bugs Bunny, or Squirrel Girl.
Saitama doesn't run on rule of funny, bro. He's a legitimate character who is funny. He's not a Looney Tune.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Mugi is strong said:
The reason Saitama would win is here. It's funny, that's why. If you dudes are going to seriously discuss him against someone, at least make it a joke character like Bobobo, Bugs Bunny, or Squirrel Girl.
Saitama doesn't run on rule of funny, bro. He's a legitimate character who is funny. He's not a Looney Tune.
We talking about the same character here? I must have posted on the wrong forum, I'm sorry. I was trying to explain that the reason Saitama is too strong is because that's the joke of OPM. All the enemies he faces are extremely dangerous, potentially putting mankind itself in danger, but the joke is Saitama effortlessly stops them and gets mad about being too strong.

Sorry for the confusion.
 
Yeah, that's the joke. What I'm saying is that, despite his name, Saitama's more than just a joke. He's a legitimate character with internal struggles and a personality, which stops him from boiling down to "he's too strong" and nothing else.
 
Obviously. It's in his name, after all. I'm just saying you can't just say, "Saitama beats anyone because he's a joke character" because he's really not. He's a guy who has a joke as part of his character (which is part of why we don't have any idea of his full power, yet), but he's more than just a joke, and attempting to justify any win for him by saying he's a joke is cutting him short as a character.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Yeah, that's the joke. What I'm saying is that, despite his name, Saitama's more than just a joke. He's a legitimate character with internal struggles and a personality, which stops him from boiling down to "he's too strong" and nothing else.
We shouldn't have anymore OPM threads until the upgrade you proposed gets sorted I think, better to lock this thread
 
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