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Saitama vs Kuroneko

Blackout046 said:
is that even enough?
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until now it is enough since we dont have enough feats about saitama being able to resist black holes (even if he can we cant be sure until it is mentioned or shown) ^_^
 
A6colute said:
is that even enough?
It's enough. When Saitama resisted high-dimensional manipulation?
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No one's attemped this on Saitama before, though you don't even know if he could resist a black hole or not is all I'm saying.

I've even just watched episode 13 where Neko uses her black hole attack on her sister, and her travel speed is nothing to be impressed about. Where is the proof she can instantly teleport with reactons FTL? Just show me that please, because right now I feel like Saitama is just getting downplayed here while Neko is getting wanked.

No offense to you or any supporters of her series, but I'm just not sold yet.
 
Blackout046 said:
Where is the proof she can instantly teleport with reactons FTL?
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This is what I'm looking for too. I think people are too easily writing off Saitama because of his relative popularity currently. He deserves a fair shake, even if you think he gets wanked too much.
 
Where is the proof she can instantly teleport with reactons FTL?

In the manga.

http://www.*********.co/manga/kiwaguro_no_brynhildr/c097/15.html - instant teleportation.

http://www.*********.co/manga/kiwaguro_no_brynhildr/c099/6.html - she is able to accelerate particles and control them on speed of light.

http://www.*********.co/manga/kiwaguro_no_brynhildr/c099/9.html - she is able to react to her own black hole.

http://www.*********.co/manga/kiwaguro_no_brynhildr/c098/5.html - her black holes not usual, they are high dimensional.
 
A6colute said:
Where is the proof she can instantly teleport with reactons FTL?
In the manga.

http://www.*********.co/manga/kiwaguro_no_brynhildr/c097/15.html - instant teleportation.

http://www.*********.co/manga/kiwaguro_no_brynhildr/c099/6.html - she is able to accelerate particles and control them on speed of light.

http://www.*********.co/manga/kiwaguro_no_brynhildr/c099/9.html - she is able to react to her own black hole.

http://www.*********.co/manga/kiwaguro_no_brynhildr/c098/5.html - her black holes not usual, they are high dimensional.
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Scan #1 Instant Teleportation: This is a just statment, not a feat. They're just talking about it here. And there's no proof that she can teleport rapidly over and over again like someone stated on this thread earlier.

Scan #2 Particle manipulation: Says here she can move those particles at near light speeds. This does not make her combat speed or reaction speed FTL, but her telekinesis apperently can move said particles at near light speeds to creat the MBH attack.

Scan #3 React to HER own black hole: This isn't too impressive IMHO because she is creating the attack not her opponent. It's like Northern Wind00 said this is called Aim-dodging. Who's to say Neko's own attack would work on her anyways? It's her attack. Also, it's not truly reacting FTL if she's not reaction to someone else's FTL attacks.

Scan #4 Higher dimensional Black Hole: I totally agree with this one because her black holes create an extra diminsion, but are these micro black holes the kind to crush someone with gravity, or are they the kind that just suck you up and spit you back out into another dimesion unharmed? If you've seen Interstellar you'd know what I'm talking about. If it's the latter, then Saitama lives but may be stuck.


And while she's concentrating so hard on making this black hole she'll get a serious Saitama punch to the face that'd kill her from a long way off.

I don't see this nice, happy go lucky chick winning against Saitama. She's got a chance, but I'd say her difficulty with him would be at least high.
 
Actually, her black holes kill. Mako was killed when Kuroneko black holed her. And while you may argue aim dodging, Kuroneko could only teleport when the black hole was created itself, so she would still not have much time to TP after the creation of the black hole. Besides, she needs to manipulate the particles at light speed so they wouldn't smash into other particles.

She still has way faster reactions. And she can TP away, finish her calcs, and then TP back and drop the black hole onto Saitama. Besides, she made it pretty quickly the second time around.
 
Tivanenk said:
She still has way faster reactions. And she can TP away, finish her calcs, and then TP back and drop the black hole onto Saitama. Besides, she made it pretty quickly the second time around.
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TPing away is BFRing herself though. Sure, she can come back, but that's giving her prep, prep makes this battle uneven from the get go.
 
but that's giving her prep, prep makes this battle uneven from the get go.

Really, preparation needn't already.

She used her second black hole without any prep.
 
A6colute said:
but that's giving her prep, prep makes this battle uneven from the get go.
Really, preparation needn't already.

She used her second black hole without any prep.
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Yes, almost instantly. And charging anti-matter also doesn't take much time either (it took Hrist a nanosecond, I believe), so Kuroneko shouldn't need much time at all to create her black hole.
 
And while she's concentrating so hard on making this black hole she'll get a serious Saitama punch to the face that'd kill her from a long way off.

She makes her black holes on speed of light (speed of those particles).

And after fight with Mako she needn't any prep for using black holes.
 
Scan #1 Instant Teleportation: This is a just statment, not a feat. They're just talking about it here. And there's no proof that she can teleport rapidly over and over again like someone stated on this thread earlier.

In fight with Mako she teleports instantly many times.

http://*********.me/manga/gokukoku-no-brynhildr/s2/c96/12

http://*********.me/manga/gokukoku-no-brynhildr/s2/c96/13

http://*********.me/manga/gokukoku-no-brynhildr/s2/c97/7

http://********.me/manga/gokukoku_no_brynhildr/c097/12.html

http://********.me/manga/gokukoku_no_brynhildr/c097/13.html

http://********.me/manga/gokukoku_no_brynhildr/c099/7.html

http://********.me/manga/gokukoku_no_brynhildr/c099/8.html

P.S. http://*********.me/manga/gokukoku-no-brynhildr/s2/c96/16 - she even can kill Saitama without using black holes...
 
he aint beating hax people anytime soo

In this thead we use current version of Saitama.
 
A6colute said:
he aint beating hax people anytime soo
In this thead we use current version of Saitama.
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Saitama's DC has increased, his speed is still the same so the outcome won't change
 
A6colute said:
P.S. http://*********.me/manga/gokukoku-no-brynhildr/s2/c96/16 - she even can kill Saitama without using black holes...
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Just because she blew some other weak character apart dosen't mean that attack will work on him. W/o black holes? Arn't all Neko's other attacks around city lvl in valkirye mode? While Saitama tanked a continent+ attack (Collapsing Star, Roaring Cannon) from Lord Boros. Now I'm sure you're downplaying.


I'll just leave this battle be for now until Saitama gets a speed feat.
 
Just because she blew some other weak character apart dosen't mean that attack will work on him.

Saitama has resistance against particle manipulation? Or his cells is not human and he is made from adamantium?
 
Arn't all Neko's other attacks around city lvl in valkirye mode?

Particles manipulation ignores usual physical durability.
 
Simply: if you are able to manipulate particles, you don't care how strong a molecular structure is. You simply destroy molecules from inside.
 
A6colute said:
Simply: if you are able to manipulate particles, you don't care how strong a molecular structure is. You simply destroy molecules from inside.
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Molecules fit under the term particle. Did it say atomic particles? Or merely molecular bonds.. or what?
 
A6colute said:
Just because she blew some other weak character apart dosen't mean that attack will work on him.

Saitama has resistance against particle manipulation? Or his cells is not human and he is made from adamantium?
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Thats still a particle lmao
 
Molecules fit under the term particle. Did it say atomic particles? Or merely molecular bonds.. or what?

Elementary particles.
 
A6colute said:
Molecules fit under the term particle. Did it say atomic particles? Or merely molecular bonds.. or what?
Elementary particles.
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That is atomic particles. If Saitama can tank a nuke, he can ignore that. Have we seen him tank anything like that? Not yet.
 
If Saitama can tank a nuke, he can ignore that.

No. If Saitama can tank a nuke, he can ignore radiation. That's all.
 
A6colute said:
No. If Saitama can tank a nuke, he can ignore radiation. That's all.
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You know how a Nuke works, right? It breaks apart the subatomic bonds of the particles in question. That's how its explosion works, through the systematic destruction and chain reaction of atomic breaks. If he can tank that, he can ignore matter manipulation on an atomic level.
 
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If he can tank that, he can ignore matter manipulation on an atomic level.
No. If he tanked nuke - he tanked only nuke radiation + shock wave + explosion energy.

He is not a nuke itself. So how he can tank chain reaction? Chain reaction only in a nuke. Not everywhere.
 
A6colute said:
then i pretty sure that Saitama will win in 1 punch i suppose o3o
He cannot punch her. With her FTL reaction + instant teleportation.

well, Since Saitama's not an idiot , i will sure that he's smart enough to know that he cannot face the black hole with his punch.

She is able catch him with telekinesis + use black holes. Even if he is FTL.

But he is not FTL.
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He is, he caught sonic which was hypersonic speeds without even trying.
 
well is saitama even affected by the black holes in the final episode they pushed a lot of gravity and he was standing without being affected by it
 
well is saitama even affected by the black holes in the final episode they pushed a lot of gravity and he was standing without being affected by it

And this "black hole" not affected spaceship even.

This "black hole" - only words. Show me this "black hole", please.
 
I would like to see scans of the black holes created by her, because if you are going to complain he isn't using a black hole level force attack to attack saitama because you don't see an actual hole, then erase all uses about black holes in the first place. Why? The creation of any real blackhole for any period of time would suck everything on a plantery scale into it extremely fast. But clearly for the sake of it being mange/anime/fiction attack they just say the force and show something being destroyed. So unless kuroha created a "blackhole" and everything died but her, stop being bias and understand the context.

I will have to give this one to Saitama because one attack by saitama will end it due to their being lack of durability/defense on kuroha side, on the other hand saitama has proven to be able to withstand quite alot of strong/fast attacks and react to them as well and for the most part without really trying.
 
I would like to see scans of the black holes created by her

http://********.me/manga/gokukoku_no_brynhildr/c099/10.html
 
because you don't see an actual hole

I don't see a fake black hole even. I see nothing. Only words... well, words is not very serious attack.
 
A6colute said:
because you don't see an actual hole
I don't see a fake black hole even. I see nothing. Only words... well, words is not very serious attack.
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Fair enough, I agree words only go so far. I still have to give it to saitama based on my previous reasons stated, and also the character tiering that has been assigned so far to the battlers.
 
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