Ryüko Matoi vs. Twilight Sparkle

[Jackythejack]

Since Kill la Kill got upgraded to High 6-C, I can no set up this bloody anime against an adorable little cartoon about ponies. Let's see if I don't immediately set up a stomp here. Speed is equalized! Fight takes place in a ruined Nudist Beach base, and neither combatant are aware of the other's abilities. Just figured out this is technically a rematch! So perhaps Ryuko can get revenge

Ryüko Matoi:

Twilight Sparkle:

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

So Ryuko resists most of Twily's hax (which she never uses anyway) and has high-mid regen, but I'm having trouble finding her AP.

 

[Jackythejack]

I think you can find the justification here?

 

[Jackythejack]

103 gigatons apparently

 

[Lightbuster30]

She doesn't have any answer to getting sealed in a crystal.

 

[Jackythejack]

Would Twilight do that right away? How does it work?

 

[Lightbuster30]

Also, when has Ryuko displayed High Mid outside her final form?

 

[Jackythejack]

I think she just has that though due to being a life fiber creature. At least that's what the profile implies

 

[Lightbuster30]

Would Twilight do that right away? How does it work?

She did it to Starlight relatively quickly. She basically fires a beam and it seals the target in a crystal block. It can be broken through AP but Twilight scales to someone who is 2.3x stronger and performed the feat as a filly.

 

[Lightbuster30]

I think she just has that though due to being a life fiber creature. At least that's what the profile implies

I think she needs to actually display it in previous forms. Because I don't remember it outside the final battle.

 

[Jackythejack]

Where's the calc for that exactly? I'm curious.

Also can't the beam just be dodged?

 

[Lightbuster30]

Where's the calc for that exactly? I'm curious.
Also can't the beam just be dodged?

Here.

"Can" is not the same as "will." And it's not as if she can't try again.

 

[Jackythejack]

Yeah but I don't think she'd spam it though, considering that Ryukuo would likely be agile enough to avoid those beams. Not like she doesn't have air mobility

 

[Lightbuster30]

Yeah but I don't think she'd spam it though, considering that Ryukuo would likely be agile enough to avoid those beams. Not like she doesn't have air mobility

Twilight probably would once she decides to use it, and I'd consider Twilight agile herself. If Twilight gets really frustrated she might restrain with Telekinesis and that is Omnidirectional.

 

[Jackythejack]

The way I understand it because Ryuko has Loren lifting strength she cancels out telekinesis. At least that's how I've seen it be handled in most threads

 

[Lightbuster30]

The way I understand it because Ryuko has Loren lifting strength she cancels out telekinesis. At least that's how I've seen it be handled in most threads

She's not breaking out of TK that can hold down Tier High 6-Cs. Ryuko is going to have that much pressure put on her.

 

[Jackythejack]

But she's a High 6-C herself in this? Also she has greater lifting strength by quite a bit from what I see. She can easily resist it

 

[Lightbuster30]

I'll be real here: Attributing your opponents ability to break out of a hold based soley on lifting strength is absolutely stupid. Thats like saying a Planet Buster can't hold down a wall buster simply because the latter can bench triple what the former can.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I'll be real here: Attributing your opponents ability to break out of a hold based soley on lifting strength is absolutely stupid. Thats like saying a Planet Buster can't hold down a wall buster simply because the latter can bench triple what the former can.

But that's exactly how it works. Not all Planet Busters can lift planets.

 

[Jackythejack]

That...really is how it works yes

 

[Lightbuster30]

And that's the most stupid thing I've ever heard. They would logically be holding you down with their strength.

@JackytheJack they may be in the same tier, but Twilight is further in it.

 

[Jackythejack]

Not by two much, however. The gap ain't that big. Only two times as strong and Ryuko having a high pain tolerance helps like, so much in this if Twilight were to blast her with something

 

[Lightbuster30]

2.3 is a bigger gap than people make it out. It really doesn't help that she is far superior to the person she scales to. Like by a lot. To the point where you have Twilight holding down 4 ponies who are in the same tier as the one she scales to at once and all they could do was move their eyes. No struggle. If Twilight goes for Telekinesis, I really don't see Ryuko resisting.

 

[Jackythejack]

That's actually really not that big though, like honestly. It could be totally worse and like I said her tolerance to pain helps out so much. Statistically speaking she's going to break out of the telekinesis, that's just how lifting strength works. She has more lifting strength than all of those horses after all. Either Ryüko resists it or Twilights lifting strength needs to be changed

 

[Lightbuster30]

Her telekinesis held down the charge of a High 6-C. Pain tolerance doesn't do much against being held down or being sealed in crystal. It really does need changing.

As far as TK is concerned she is superior to Rarity who has moved half a storms worth of clouds and that is outside of Ryuko's pay grade by a lot even though the concept of AP not being able to be used to hold down or resist being held down by a weaker foe is ******* stupid.

 

[Jackythejack]

Rarity still has less lifting strength, however. It should be changed, yes. Class 25 lifting strength is weaker than Class M lifting strength. That's just how numbers are going to work. AP doesn't equate to how you can hold something down, because AP is essentially just how hard you punch. It is different.

Ryuko resists the TK, whether you find it stupid or not that's just how it works.

 

[DMUA]

TK would have to handle Lifting Strength if the person has flight, and Ryüko can kinda fly.

Now, as per other factors...

 

[Jackythejack]

What else is telekinesisaffected by? Because I thought it was solely lifting strength?

 

[DMUA]

Generally just forces that can oppose it without gripping anything physical, such as flight, counter TK or being really fat

 

[Jackythejack]

Oh, huh, alright. So I guess Ryuko still resists TK though so...that shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Jackythejack]

Bump

 

[Jackythejack]

Bump

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Twi only showed sealing in her tier 4 form, not her high 6-C form

 

[WeeklyBattles]

And yes, ryuko displayed her regen in all of her forms

 

[Jackythejack]

Oh, really? Well that clears up a lot of things then, sweet.

 

[Phoenix821]

http://gfycat.com/TotalFrenchGalapagosalbatross

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Wait is this Unicorn or alicorn twi?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also twilight only used her crystal sealing after being bfred through time half a dozen times by starlight

 

[Jinsye]

Alicorn is High 6-C

 

[WeeklyBattles]

If need be Ryuko can also amp herself by severely damaging herself which would put her well above twilight