Ryūko Matoi VS Son Goku

[Pyro9278]

Tomboy vs. Monkey Boy
Rules:

• Equal Speed.
• The fight takes place in Tokyo, both starting 80 meters apart.
• Ryuko Kisaragi.
• Goku 23rd Budōkai.

Ryūko Matoi (31.0 Exatons):

Son Goku (118.4 Exatons):

Incon:

 

[GarrixianXD]

So... what's stopping Goku from brutally beating the shit out of her?

 

[Fezzih_007]

Well, Ryuko have a pretty busted Regen, so any attack Goku does not gonna have much lasting effect, and her stamina is superior to Goku, so he can't outlast her in anyway.

He way more skilled in combat trought, and is stronger than her, so he could just pummel her super easy. Trought, even If he could knock her out, I doubt is gonna last 1 hour for the wincon to Activate, since Senketsu could wake her up.

Goku could bypass Ryuko Regen with a super Kamehameha, but I doubt he gonna for the kill.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Well, Ryuko have a pretty busted Regen, so any attack Goku does not gonna have much lasting effect, and her stamina is superior to Goku, so he can't outlast her in anyway.

He way more skilled in combat trought, and is stronger than her, so he could just pummel her super easy. Trought, even If he could knock her out, I doubt is gonna last 1 hour for the wincon to Activate, since Senketsu could wake her up.

Goku could bypass Ryuko Regen with a super Kamehameha, but I doubt he gonna for the kill.

How does their accelerated development compare?

 

[UnoRebaixadO]

the difference in power seems glaring to me

 

[Demon_Lord18]

So... what's stopping Goku from brutally beating the shit out of her?

The Maria da Penha law

 

[UnoRebaixadO]

A lei Maria da Penha

XD

 

[UnoRebaixadO]

Well Goku is 4 times stronger basically

 

[Demon_Lord18]

Isn't that Ryuko in the picture the one from the game?

 

[Knifeman29]

Isn't that Ryuko in the picture the one from the game?

It's Senketsu Kisaragi. She used that form in the end of the series to fight Ragyo.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

IIRC Ryuko's accelerated is very busted, like going from being stomped to stomping in a short period of time level. Which since Goku has that sizable AP advantage and Ryuko regenerates (and actively tries to abuse this aspect of her accelerated development in this form from my recollection) I'm pretty sure she has a very solid advantage against Goku here, only thing he has going for him is Kamehameha GG which likely would only work if he started out with it.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

this might be dumb but how is goku even tagging ryuko
ryuko has flight

23rd Budokai has flight, even if he didn't Ryuko typically likes to fight close range and considers the Chiaotzu technique cheap.

 

[JJSliderman]

Goku can abuse zenkais in theory to keep up with Ryuko’s AD.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Goku can abuse zenkais in theory to keep up with Ryuko’s AD.

In theory, to some extent, however Goku doesn't even know they exist in this key, it'd be out of character in any other, and he lacks regeneration to truly keep up with her when it comes to abusing boosts in power.

 

[Fezzih_007]

this might be dumb but how is goku even tagging ryuko
ryuko has flight

Goku be like:

 

[Pyro9278]

I think Goku could win this if he feels that Ryuko is getting too strong and analytically predicts her movements, coming to the conclusion that Ryuko is strengthening and regenerating, and then resorts to the Kamehameha

 

[Pyro9278]

Bump

 

[Pyro9278]

Bump

 

[Mickey1940]

Goku neck chops weaker characters pretty in character at this point Im the series

Even if he doesn't kill Ryuko with punches, he can certainly knock her unconscious, like he did with King Chappa and Recoome (ik he hasn't fought Recoome yet at this point but it's just an example that demonstrates some level of consistency)

Like sure he might get riled up cuz he likes to fight but he's not stupid, if he sees someone rapidly growing (in Ryuko's case, in literal seconds), he's not dumb enough to just let it happen

I doubt he'll kill her unless he was giga losing but I don't really see that scenario happening

 

[Pyro9278]

Goku neck chops weaker characters pretty in character at this point Im the series

Even if he doesn't kill Ryuko with punches, he can certainly knock her unconscious, like he did with King Chappa and Recoome (ik he hasn't fought Recoome yet at this point but it's just an example that demonstrates some level of consistency)

Like sure he might get riled up cuz he likes to fight but he's not stupid, if he sees someone rapidly growing (in Ryuko's case, in literal seconds), he's not dumb enough to just let it happen

I doubt he'll kill her unless he was giga losing but I don't really see that scenario happening

Goku cannot kill her with any physical attack because she will regenerate, and if he starts with something deadly like trying to cut her neck, this will perfectly fulfill her conditions to abuse her AD and empower herself

 

[Mickey1940]

Goku cannot kill her with any physical attack because she will regenerate, and if he starts with something deadly like trying to cut her neck, this will perfectly fulfill her conditions to abuse her AD and empower herself

Ryuko isn't immune to pressure points or being knocked unconscious, which Goku will go for in character due to how weak Ryuko is initially.

like yeah she can regenerate from being blasted apart and being sliced in half and stuff but regeneration doesn't help you when you're just getting neck chopped. She's not gonna die, but she'll be knocked out

 

[Pyro9278]

Ryuko isn't immune to pressure points or being knocked unconscious, which Goku will go for in character due to how weak Ryuko is initially.

like yeah she can regenerate from being blasted apart and being sliced in half and stuff but regeneration doesn't help you when you're just getting neck chopped. She's not gonna die, but she'll be knocked out

Ryuko's regeneration covers all of that as she is capable of regenerating from being cut in half and should have the same level or even superior to her mother, who regenerated just from having her head cut off (and was still conscious even after being decapitated). Maybe Goku can induce a concussion that stuns her, but I doubt it would be enough to incapacitate her

 

[Mickey1940]

Ryuko's regeneration covers all of that as she is capable of regenerating from being cut in half and should have the same level or even superior to her mother, who regenerated just from having her head cut off (and was still conscious even after being decapitated). Maybe Goku can induce a concussion that stuns her, but I doubt it would be enough to incapacitate her

bruh

regeneration
doesn't
help
against
getting
knocked
out

it's perfectly possible for you to incapacitate someone without killing them, even if they have regeneration. Gojo managed to knock out Sukuna with a Black Flash, despite Sukuna's regeneration with Reverse Cursed Technique. Characters like Deadpool and Wolverine, both with insane healing factors, can still be knocked out with blunt force trauma. Ryuko is in this exact same boat, and Goku does that in character against weaker opponents.

Considering how Goku is over 5 times stronger (Goku actually scales to over 177.6 Exatons, not 117) , a few years older, and has had MUCH higher quality martial arts training, Goku can either go for the knockout, or just blatantly outskill her even after she buffs herself. All else fails, Super Kamehameha can disintegrate people far beyond his level, as demonstrated by Beginning of Z Goku, who's ordinary Kamehameha made his power level go from 416 to 924, which means it can potentially double his AP.

Ryuko needs to go out of her way to force Goku to kill her in order to abuse her Accelerated Development, as she basically has Saiyan Zenkais + Regeneration, which would be OP if not for the fact that Goku wouldn't kill her in character. Ragyo had to stab holes in Ryuko's body hundreds if not thousands of times over for Ryuko to reach her level, while Goku would likely just be overpowering her with punches, or, like I said earler, knock her out cold immediately cuz she's fodder

 

[Pyro9278]

it's perfectly possible for you to incapacitate someone without killing them, even if they have regeneration. Gojo managed to knock out Sukuna with a Black Flash, despite Sukuna's regeneration with Reverse Cursed Technique. Characters like Deadpool and Wolverine, both with insane healing factors, can still be knocked out with blunt force trauma. Ryuko is in this exact same boat, and Goku does that in character against weaker opponents.

Okay, my mistake. Still, what is the probability that Goku will go first this way instead of prolonging the fight?

Considering how Goku is over 5 times stronger (Goku actually scales to over 177.6 Exatons, not 117) , a few years older, and has had MUCH higher quality martial arts training, Goku can either go for the knockout, or just blatantly outskill her even after she buffs herself. All else fails, Super Kamehameha can disintegrate people far beyond his level, as demonstrated by Beginning of Z Goku, who's ordinary Kamehameha made his power level go from 416 to 924, which means it can potentially double his AP.

Ryuko needs to go out of her way to force Goku to kill her in order to abuse her Accelerated Development, as she basically has Saiyan Zenkais + Regeneration, which would be OP if not for the fact that Goku wouldn't kill her in character. Ragyo had to stab holes in Ryuko's body hundreds if not thousands of times over for Ryuko to reach her level, while Goku would likely just be overpowering her with punches, or, like I said earler, knock her out cold immediately cuz she's fodder

I thought I saw that the profile had a different scale, but thank you for the correction. In any case, this only reaffirms Goku's physical advantage, and the Kamehameha is practically a one-shot, although I obviously doubt he would resort to that so soon. So in the meantime, Ryuko still has the opportunity to grow with her AP and cover the damage with her regeneration. However, she doesn't even need to take damage, as she can empower herself with Vital Fiber to enhance herself even more. Additionally, Ryuko also has the ability to attack from a distance and has the scissor blade, so perhaps that could push Goku to fight with greater intensity.

Anyway, do I count your position as a direct vote for Goku, right?

 

[Mickey1940]

Okay, my mistake. Still, what is the probability that Goku will go first this way instead of prolonging the fight?

decently high, he has a few examples, like King Chappa and Recoome. You can argue that he doesn't do this if his family and friends aren't in danger, but against King Chappa he did it just cuz King Chappa's weak. There's a decent chance he just knocks her out, especially if she's just some rando who picked a fight with him in the context of this fight

I thought I saw that the profile had a different scale, but thank you for the correction. In any case, this only reaffirms Goku's physical advantage, and the Kamehameha is practically a one-shot, although I obviously doubt he would resort to that so soon. So in the meantime, Ryuko still has the opportunity to grow with her AP and cover the damage with her regeneration.

Once again, Ryuko's Accelerated Development is only usable if she's brought close to death, something Goku never does in character

However, she doesn't even need to take damage, as she can empower herself with Vital Fiber to enhance herself even more.

I'm not sure what "Vital Fibers" are but I'm gonna assume you mean her Absorption, where she absorbs the Banshi thread of whoever she's fighting, right?

yeah uh no Goku doesn't wear Life Fiber clothing so he doesn't have a Banshi thread so that doesn't work. idk what u were expecting

Additionally, Ryuko also has the ability to attack from a distance and has the scissor blade, so perhaps that could push Goku to fight with greater intensity.

Ryukoi has shockwaves that will do nothing and a sword that can be knocked out of her hand. She can't grow strong enough to challenge Goku in any significant way without Goku actively trying to kill her, so she's kinda stuck at her current level of AP

Anyway, do I count your position as a direct vote for Goku, right?

yes

 

[Spinoirr]

She actually sort of is resistant to pressure points and KOs. For pressure points, she was only susceptible to them in the early series where Tsumugu, Aikuro, and Nui used tacking needles to paralyze her, but after the attack on the Naked Sun she was shown to be outright immune to them. For being KOed, Senketsu has puppeted her body to save her from unconsciousness before, as well as her berserk form being her body being rendered unconscious and fighting on pure rage. Plus with IF being canon now, she should be capable of replicating Satsuki's feat of her body fighting on sheer instinct even after she was KOed.

Goku's energy attacks wont do a lot given that Ryuko can redirect energy blasts with Mubyoshi, even ones that are much stronger than her like Nonon's (Nonon in her base form with no Goku Uniform was able to use the same ability to beat a clone of herself that had a copy of her Symphony Regalia, ie. she was Building level redirecting Large Town level attacks with it.)

Also knocking the Scissor Blade wouldnt be a major issue given that she keeps it physically attached to her body with a series of Life Fibers.

 

[Mickey1940]

Plus with IF being canon now

ok so now she's Low 2C

now this match can't even be done

so now what

like I can't argue with that but now it's just a giant mismatch