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Sharing IP (even if it is a joke) is strictly not allowed under forum ToS and Fandom Guidelines. At minimum, the post needs to be deleted immediately, and an official warning should be given to the user.
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I closed the thread since the question was answered@TaiwaneseScaler as a rage bait joke, posted an IP address copy-pasta here.
While its not the user's IP, I believe this would still fall under inappropriate behavior. Would this just be a warning or is a ban of some form needed?
I'll delete it now, but if a ToS thing then I would say we should at least give a six month ban. If not longer.Sharing IP (even if it is a joke) is strictly not allowed under forum ToS and Forum Guidelines. At minimum, the post needs to be deleted immediately, and an official warning should be given to the user.
I don't see how is this a defense. The behaviour afterwards doesn't exactly imply the cluelessness at all.They seem to be rather clueless, I don't support a ban. A warning is at best for me.
You do know that the reasons for rejection are all different in the speed calculations shown here, right?Indeed, they do understand it.
Then they proceed to make another calc with the same awry methodology.
And they do it again.
And it repeats until I just muster a passing "no" and "this is horrendous". That's what it means when there's a lack of genuine learning to the mistakes, the same dumb stuff that's been rejected gets rejected again despite explanations given, and at some point there's only an application of force to be made.
Please have mercy on the punishment. I understand and admit what I did was wrong I won't do it again. I'll make more contributions to redeem myself.I'll delete it now, but if a ToS thing then I would say we should at least give a six month ban. If not longer.
Please have mercy Won't do again I understand what I did I just ask for a lower punishment like a warn.Ya, it is a ToS violation. Doxxing or sharing IP is strictly not allowed according to forums ToS and Fandom guidelines. I was not aware of his trollish behaviour, so this seems a second-string reason to get him banned.
6 months ban seems satisfactory in this occurrence.
I don't see how is this a defense. The behaviour afterwards doesn't exactly imply the cluelessness at all.
And once again, the same topic has been discussed previously for several days.
Being clueless about a rule does not exempt you from punishment.
I won't act trollish again I understand it was my fault and I deserve a punishment but all I ask is to lower it to a warn and If I do anything of the sort again I'll take a Perma ban unless you all have a 3 warn ban rule.If it is a ToS violation rather than just this wiki's own standards, I'd say a 6 month ban is what you should go for. And he even insisted on keeping his trollish behavior either way, so I don't mind banning him
alrightStop commenting. You're only making yourself look worse. We're waiting on other input from staff.
They seem rather naive to me instead of harbouring malicious intentions. Nonetheless, I'm not a big fan of straight-up banning someone simply because they wanted to have fun and do some stupid crap just for lols, feels rather harsh. I'm all in with a warning since TaiwaneseScaler was in a mocking attitude towards Twilight after being told it's not allowed. But if the majority here is leaning towards a ban then I won't heavily contest, just saying we should give them a second chance because they seem to be a genuine contributing member rather than a troll.I don't see how is this a defense. The behaviour afterwards doesn't exactly imply the cluelessness at all.
And once again, the same topic has been discussed previously for several days.
Being clueless about a rule does not exempt you from punishment.
I don't lack communication, I notice my mistakes immediately and I won't make the same mistake again.It is not really about speed or AP calculation at all; rather, it pertains to the underlying issue concerning your communication and lack of cooperation. The issue revolves around your failure to understand and adhere to the guidelines. As this has become repetitive, there should be some enforcement measures applied to the user.
''The issue revolves around your failure to understand and adhere to the guidelines.''I never said you lack communication.
2 pages before this BasedNecoScaler did the IP thing twice, and had a plethora of other reports against them related to Nasuverse. In the end, his punishment was a permanant topic ban and no actual ban (their permaban was a self-request). Based on this precedence it'd be unfair to ban this user imo.@TaiwaneseScaler as a rage bait joke, posted an IP address copy-pasta here.
While its not the user's IP, I believe this would still fall under inappropriate behavior. Would this just be a warning or is a ban of some form needed?
Yeah, that seems too serious to give a slap on the wrist. Agree with a 6 month month ban.Ya, it is a ToS violation. Doxxing or sharing IP is strictly not allowed according to forums ToS and Fandom guidelines. I was not aware of his trollish behaviour, so this seems a second-string reason to get him banned.
6 months ban seems satisfactory in this occurrence.
I'm fine with a warning them to keep things consistent. Though a ban will happen if they repeat the same mistake in my view.In any case, personally, I think a ban is too much especially since the user at least aknowledges that they F'ed up now. I'm in support of a very very strict warning.
AgreedI'm fine with a warning them to keep things consistent. Though a ban will happen if they repeat the same mistake in my view.
I still disagree with banning him from making blog posts in general. His AP calcs are generally uncontroversial iirc.Indeed, they do understand it.
Then they proceed to make another calc with the same awry methodology.
And they do it again.
And it repeats until I just muster a passing "no" and "this is horrendous". That's what it means when there's a lack of genuine learning to the mistakes, the same dumb stuff that's been rejected gets rejected again despite explanations given, and at some point there's only an application of force to be made.
Who's IP address is being shared? This is rhetorical of course, because those protections tend to be in play in effort to prevent actual doxxing and not trolling attempts. We are not banning somebody for trolling and then apologizing for it. They should be warned and that is it.This is a forum. Explicitly, any posts made here can be viewed via Google search, and Xenforo has strict Terms of Service regarding the sharing of IP addresses
So for how long should the calc blog ban be applied, and what types of calculations should it cover?Indeed, they do understand it.
Then they proceed to make another calc with the same awry methodology.
And they do it again.
And it repeats until I just muster a passing "no" and "this is horrendous". That's what it means when there's a lack of genuine learning to the mistakes, the same dumb stuff that's been rejected gets rejected again despite explanations given, and at some point there's only an application of force to be made.
Agreed. It could potentially get the owner of the posted public and private IP addresses in serious trouble.I'll delete it now, but if a ToS thing then I would say we should at least give a six month ban. If not longer.
Yes, we cannot allow this kind of behaviour, and this also seems to be a very new member who has not contributed in a constructive manner to our community yet.There is a misconception. This is not a private Discord server or WhatsApp, nor is it any form of private chat. It's not even a Discord platform where you can engage in trolling with these types of posts without facing consequences (or less strict ones, although discord take those actions as well). This is a forum. Explicitly, any posts made here can be viewed via Google search, and Xenforo has strict Terms of Service regarding the sharing of IP addresses. Whether the posts are fake, non-malicious, or intended as a joke ("doxxing" in a joking manner), it holds no relevance here.
I have many friends who own forums (as I collaborate with them). There are stories about forums getting blocked due to such instances. Additionally, Fandom does not tolerate this type of content, even if intended as a joke.
Therefore, there's no need to make jokes about doxxing other users, as this is a serious legal offense.
I will check if it was another member of this forum, but only reveal if it is another member, not which one.Who's IP address is being shared? This is rhetorical of course, because those protections tend to be in play in effort to prevent actual doxxing and not trolling attempts. We are not banning somebody for trolling and then apologizing for it. They should be warned and that is it.
That IP address was part of a Reddit copypasta which is already publicised, so I wouldn't consider that doxxing. And that IP most likely never existed in the first place. But posting something like that is a strict violation of the Fandom ToS nonetheless, though, I wouldn't be sure for Xenforo.The IP addresses were not owned by another member here, but revealing IP addresses in public can still potentially cause serious problems for random real life people, and also seems to be against Fandom's and XenForo's Terms of Use, so I am not sure what punishment we should apply here exactly.
I'm having a hard time believing whatever trouble this harmless usage of a copypasta is going to cause is any more damage than it being one already.The IP addresses were not owned by another member here, but revealing IP addresses in public can still potentially cause serious problems for random real life people, and also seems to be against Fandom's and XenForo's Terms of Use, so I am not sure what punishment we should apply here exactly.
Okay. I did not know that it was already much more publicly revealed.I'm having a hard time believing whatever trouble this harmless usage of a copypasta is going to cause is any more damage than it being one already.
Most of the staff here suggested a warning.Okay. I did not know that it was already much more publicly revealed.
So would a warning or a two weeks block be sufficient here?
I wrote above that I have never repeated the mistakes I made.So for how long should the calc blog ban be applied, and what types of calculations should it cover?
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One month, speed calculationsSo for how long should the calc blog ban be applied, and what types of calculations should it cover?
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