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At long last, we have a proper explanation for how Toon Physiology really works, and possible leeway for a Varies rating.
Time for some easier-to-understand clarification.
In an official guidebook, Looney Tunes: The Ultimate Guide, we get these passages.
Given this reading, we can say that this is all Subjective Reality.
Subjects like Roadrunner being able to defy physics simply because he believes that he can do it, whereas Coyote who doesn't believe that it's possible in that moment doesn't. A Toon's physical AP and Dura is whatever they think it can be - up to High 3-A, of course. Considering the actor's canon where the Toons have to endure pain in order to gain laughs, it gives a reason why they can be "harmed" by guns, anvils, etc, and why their feats vary so much.
This is backed up by Tiny Toons where toon physics are demonstrated in a lesson by Elmer Fudd. It's very hard to believe that if you won't fall if you're looking down and there's nothing below you. But the fact that you're not looking down, and you don't believe you will fall, and you don't, once again demonstrates Subjective Reality. It's why you have to go to school to learn all this and pull them off effectively.
But what is the source of that? Again, Tiny Toons has an answer. A UES. This Looney substance is something that exists inside most everyone in the verse, even humans. It's what allows the characters to pull off their stunts. When this power is extracted from toons, they become normal. This is surprisingly consistent. When Babs Bunny has hers extracted, it becomes an entirely separate entity that is able to pull off SR feats casually while she is left normal until it fuses back with her. (Note: The reason why this is different is because while Babs' toon force is extracted from her like the others, unlike the others, it is not absorbed and sealed in the machine, so it is free to assume physical form and go berserk). Characters with a higher level of this are able to pull off more, even gaining resistances like resisting getting absorbed, something Babs attributes to one's level of toon power, with characters like Bugs saying they were "just looney enough" to resist other abilities. This is a power that needs to be trained and built up over time in Looniversity such that they can pull off advanced stages of these powers -- examples being advanced Wild Takes, which are not able to be performed by those with a lower level of toon force experience.
It would make sense that the Deans and Professors of ACME Looniversity, Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner, Daffy Duck, Foghorn Leghorn, Elmer Fudd, Granny, Pepe Le Pew, Porky Pig, Sylvester, Tweety Bird, Speedy Gonzales, Taz, Yosemite Sam, Orson Whales, Witch Hazel, which as per the show's premise, serve as mentors for the younger students, should be able to make use of these abilities to a degree that vastly surpasses their proteges, so that whatever they can do, the toons can do as well, since they literally teach cartoon physics, and those on their level that show up in their shorts alongside them, or professional toons like Slappy Squirrel should have similar clarifications. Whereas, Bugs who is the principal, late-season Buster Bunny, who has impressed him and Daffy a good many times, and the Warners who are an entirely next level of looney that they need to be contained in a tower are in the high tiers.
I propose that these explanations be added to the Toon Physiology page in more detail such that it can be further explained in versus debates and that the subjective reality reasoning and scans should be added to the SR section under Inherent Abilities. This can also arrange a Varies tier for the toons where we can be allowed to calc more consistent feats that range from building level to planet level to high universe level to show how varied their SR AP and Dura can be, and disprove the idea of "anti feats".
Agree: koopa3144, Gewsbumpz_dude, Flashlight237, Tonygameman, Fireld, Accelerated_Evolution, Duedate8898, Propellus
Disagree:
Neutral:
Time for some easier-to-understand clarification.
In an official guidebook, Looney Tunes: The Ultimate Guide, we get these passages.
Given this reading, we can say that this is all Subjective Reality.
Subjects like Roadrunner being able to defy physics simply because he believes that he can do it, whereas Coyote who doesn't believe that it's possible in that moment doesn't. A Toon's physical AP and Dura is whatever they think it can be - up to High 3-A, of course. Considering the actor's canon where the Toons have to endure pain in order to gain laughs, it gives a reason why they can be "harmed" by guns, anvils, etc, and why their feats vary so much.
This is backed up by Tiny Toons where toon physics are demonstrated in a lesson by Elmer Fudd. It's very hard to believe that if you won't fall if you're looking down and there's nothing below you. But the fact that you're not looking down, and you don't believe you will fall, and you don't, once again demonstrates Subjective Reality. It's why you have to go to school to learn all this and pull them off effectively.
But what is the source of that? Again, Tiny Toons has an answer. A UES. This Looney substance is something that exists inside most everyone in the verse, even humans. It's what allows the characters to pull off their stunts. When this power is extracted from toons, they become normal. This is surprisingly consistent. When Babs Bunny has hers extracted, it becomes an entirely separate entity that is able to pull off SR feats casually while she is left normal until it fuses back with her. (Note: The reason why this is different is because while Babs' toon force is extracted from her like the others, unlike the others, it is not absorbed and sealed in the machine, so it is free to assume physical form and go berserk). Characters with a higher level of this are able to pull off more, even gaining resistances like resisting getting absorbed, something Babs attributes to one's level of toon power, with characters like Bugs saying they were "just looney enough" to resist other abilities. This is a power that needs to be trained and built up over time in Looniversity such that they can pull off advanced stages of these powers -- examples being advanced Wild Takes, which are not able to be performed by those with a lower level of toon force experience.
It would make sense that the Deans and Professors of ACME Looniversity, Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner, Daffy Duck, Foghorn Leghorn, Elmer Fudd, Granny, Pepe Le Pew, Porky Pig, Sylvester, Tweety Bird, Speedy Gonzales, Taz, Yosemite Sam, Orson Whales, Witch Hazel, which as per the show's premise, serve as mentors for the younger students, should be able to make use of these abilities to a degree that vastly surpasses their proteges, so that whatever they can do, the toons can do as well, since they literally teach cartoon physics, and those on their level that show up in their shorts alongside them, or professional toons like Slappy Squirrel should have similar clarifications. Whereas, Bugs who is the principal, late-season Buster Bunny, who has impressed him and Daffy a good many times, and the Warners who are an entirely next level of looney that they need to be contained in a tower are in the high tiers.
I propose that these explanations be added to the Toon Physiology page in more detail such that it can be further explained in versus debates and that the subjective reality reasoning and scans should be added to the SR section under Inherent Abilities. This can also arrange a Varies tier for the toons where we can be allowed to calc more consistent feats that range from building level to planet level to high universe level to show how varied their SR AP and Dura can be, and disprove the idea of "anti feats".
Agree: koopa3144, Gewsbumpz_dude, Flashlight237, Tonygameman, Fireld, Accelerated_Evolution, Duedate8898, Propellus
Disagree:
Neutral:
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