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Looney Tunes Downgrade

A verse with this many star feats cannot be mountain level or whatever lmao
The fact is — it is, because it does not rely on physics. Bugs can pop the moon like a bubble. It still doesn’t mean he’s Moon level. Like, I certainly TRIED to support it, but it is just not happening.
 
The fact is — it is, because it does not rely on physics. Bugs can pop the moon like a bubble. It still doesn’t mean he’s Moon level. Like, I certainly TRIED to support it, but it is just not happening.
Literally a huge part of verses out there don't care about physics to do their stuff or feats. If it was the case every FTL character would completely obliterate everything around them
 
Literally a huge part of verses out there don't care about physics to do their stuff or feats. If it was the case every FTL character would completely obliterate everything around them
The difference is that they’re shonen or comics, or deep rooted in reality. This is a cartoon where the laws of physics are fickle. Do you think people are going to want to calc that? Or put in the work to research lore on it and want to make everything consistent? Especially on a verse as abstract as this? The answer is no. We’re happy to have 8-B.
 
The difference is that they’re shonen or comics, or deep rooted in reality. This is a cartoon where the laws of physics are fickle. Do you think people are going to want to calc that? Or put in the work to research lore on it and want to make everything consistent? Especially on a verse as abstract as this? The answer is no. We’re happy to have 8-B.
Comparing it to another toon since it's Sol, don't you accept the courage the cowardly dog thing?
 
Literally a huge part of verses out there don't care about physics to do their stuff or feats. If it was the case every FTL character would completely obliterate everything around them
We accept things on the wiki like moving the Sun at speeds ftl being 4-C or moving the galaxy at ftl without 3-C, despite these being feats that break the laws of physics.
 
Comparing it to another toon since it's Sol, don't you accept the courage the cowardly dog thing?
We accept things on the wiki like moving the Sun at speeds ftl being 4-C or moving the galaxy at ftl without 3-C, despite these being feats that break the laws of physics.
Even that’s finicky. I wouldn’t be surprised if a thread was made for that. I mean, I support it. But others won’t be so lenient.
 
A verse with this many star feats cannot be mountain level or whatever lmao
Can you please post one star level feat that isn't vague or something that is meant to represent the sun but clearly doesn't work as one?
 
We accept things on the wiki like moving the Sun at speeds ftl being 4-C or moving the galaxy at ftl without 3-C, despite these being feats that break the laws of physics.
That's literally not the issue, the issue is that looney toons stars and planets are inconsistently portrayed across the series.
Sometimes stars appear to be way smaller than in real life and sometimes sun can fall on Earth and nothing happens at all.
There is no such thing as molecules, gravity etc in Looney toons. Stuff just happen because it's funny.
 
That's literally not the issue, the issue is that looney toons stars and planets are inconsistently portrayed across the series.
Sometimes stars appear to be way smaller than in real life and sometimes sun can fall on Earth and nothing happens at all.
There is no such thing as molecules, gravity etc in Looney toons. Stuff just happen because it's funny.
so what we just make it 11-C and forget about it or something? Things happen and we have to scale em. If Taz can erase part of the sun then he erased part of the sun. It is a feat for their toon force.
 
so what we just make it 11-C and forget about it or something? Things happen and we have to scale em. If Taz can erase part of the sun then he erased part of the sun. It is a feat for their toon force.
Speaking as a huge advocate for Toon Force, ESPECIALLY Looney Tunes Toon Force, the wiki does not care about Toon Force.
 
so what we just make it 11-C and forget about it or something? Things happen and we have to scale em. If Taz can erase part of the sun then he erased part of the sun. It is a feat for their toon force.
No?
We can use more consistent feats.

Well, if they did that because of Toon Force, wouldn't that be hax of some kind anyway?
 
Speaking as a huge advocate for Toon Force, ESPECIALLY Looney Tunes Toon Force, the wiki does not care about Toon Force.
That's a problem, because we ought to index them anyways
No?
We can use more consistent feats.
there ARE no consistent feats within cartoons. A character can get knocked out by a 10-B event and then survive a 4-C destruction in the same episode. Unless you wanna make every toon 9-B at most, which would be stupid, we ought to look at somewhat consistent higher feats, in which case, we have the tier 5-4 stuff
 
how about you don't give up yet huh? This thread is important because it could affect later cartoon scaling which is a pretty notable part of vsbw.
It could, but on the other hand, it could be a fluke. I don’t have much faith in it’s sustainability.
 
Why would we bother calculating something that clearly isn't meant to be taken seriously?
because nothing in cartoons is serious?
we can't not evaluate them either because that'd just be idiotic when we have feats.
The compromise is to use physics to an extent necessary to figure out the AP of some of these feats.
 
I am specifically talking about cosmic feats here.
How can we calculate someone destroying a sun If that sun acts more like a balloon than giant plasma ball in space.
 
I am specifically talking about cosmic feats here.
How can we calculate someone destroying a sun If that sun acts more like a balloon than giant plasma ball in space.
Cause its the sun that was simply weird like that due to Tazs hax
 
I am specifically talking about cosmic feats here.
why? Sure, they're big, but what's so special about them that makes it ok for a 9-B feat to be "consistent" despite following the same type of goofy toony physics and not ok for a cosmic feat? They may have a size difference but if a cosmic feat shouldn't get indexed because of that then the tier 9 feat shouldn't either. Since we can't ignore both we have to consider both.
How can we calculate someone destroying a sun If that sun acts more like a balloon than giant plasma ball in space.
By ignoring the fact that it slapped itself onto the ground in a cartoony gag and calculate the fact that a chunk of it got erased out of existance?
 
btw if this downgrade goes through, who gets affected? Bugs? anyone who scales to him and from wile e?
 
Say tho, won't they still get Tier 4 and higher with plot/toon force manip tho?
 
Anyways, there are cosmic feats. But they likely don't count. the Big Bang Dot created is big enough to destroy the universe and large enough to suck in the Animator but as we now know, this is not higher plane of reality but rather another universe that just happens to have some degree of control over this one
You don't said any reasoning to make the feat invalid, it doesn't qualifies for R>F Transcendence, but that doesn't means it doesn't qualifies as a Universal feat

The destruction of the cartoon feats are also moot as there is no proof that they contain a universe and the destruction seems limited to just the room.
Pretty sure that the "Daffy and Pork destroy the film reel" and "Bugs Bunny cuts the film reel to escape from a train almost killing him" feats shows that the film reel contains their whole "world" and every single "snapshot" contains a moment of the cartoon, similar to the visual representation of a space-time continuum
 
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Also, i don't know why argue outliers when we have already estabilished that not only Toons only get hurt for acting purposes, but they can vary their power levels

Both Animaniacs series shows Yakko, Wakko and Dot as comparable, and even if they got scared against her big bang, this just means that they don't believed that they could do something against It (AKA, their Varies rating wasn't at the peak of it's power)
 
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Also, i don't know why argue outliers when we have already estabilished that not only Toons only get hurt for acting purposes, but they can vary their power levels

Both Animaniacs series shows Yakko, Wakko and Dot as comparable, and even if they got scared against her big bang, this just means that they don't believed that they could do something against It (AKA, their Varies rating wasn't at the peak of it's power)
You can't just write off every anti-feat as acting tho?
 
You can't just write off every anti-feat as acting tho?
You can. There has been like 2 CRTs that discussed this. They are actors. Did you know that Chris Hemsworth cannot actually control thunder?
 
There is a comic where Marvin and Sam collide a star with a black hole by themselves
 
I watched all of Taz-Mania and there's a scene where a boulder crushes the Milky Way.

There's plenty of feats that are pretty hard to dispute as being cosmic-level, even outside the Reality > Fiction stuff.
 
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