Roshi vs Jiraiya REMATCH (Dragon Ball vs Naruto)

[Robo432343]

Master Roshi

Master Roshi (武天老師 Muten Rōshi), also known as the Turtle Hermit (亀仙人 Kame Sen'nin), is a major supporting protagonist in the Dragon Ball manga and Dragon Ball anime, who also makes a few appearances in Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Super, and Dragon Ball GT. Tier: 8-C, higher with Kamehameha, far...

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Jiraiya (Naruto)

Jiraiya was one of Konohagakure's legendary Sannin. He was also known as the Toad Sage because of his special affinity for toads. Famed as a hermit and pervert of stupendous skill, Jiraiya traveled the world in search of knowledge that would help his friends, the various novels he wrote, and...

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Speed Equal

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Jiraiya can go into sage mode and perform sound genjutsu and win. Of course, it is also possible to lose without doing this.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Specify the key or SBA assumes there strongest key

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

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death battle did jiraiya dirty

DB doesn´t uses equalized speed and has the characters at their full power

So yeah, Jiraya was fighting a High 4-C and MFTL+ Roshi, lol, doesn´t surprises me he lose

 

[Huesito88]

Why not Roshi from Dragon Ball vs Kashin Koji speed unequalized?

 

[Nierre]

cuz Koji is a cheap/lame copy of a goat

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

Roshis AP is much higher, basically oneshot range,

He also has sleep manipulation and can create illusions which he can pull out faster than it would take jiraiya to enter sage mode, or the time it takes for the toads to synchronize for their sound genjutsu (which ofcourse, roshi can just kiai the sound waves away)


Roshis imo

 

[Robo432343]

Roshis AP is much higher, basically oneshot range,

He also has sleep manipulation and can create illusions which he can pull out faster than it would take jiraiya to enter sage mode, or the time it takes for the toads to synchronize for their sound genjutsu (which ofcourse, roshi can just kiai the sound waves away)


Roshis imo

No
SBA already assumes sage mode is being used

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Jiraiya can go into sage mode and perform sound genjutsu and win.

agreed

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

No
SBA already assumes sage mode is being used

I wasn't sure which is why I gave both scenarios, even in sage mode, it takes a relatively long time to set it up as they have to synchronize, roshi has both the DC and AP to end them long before that , and his own mentally assault takes far less time to pull out

 

[Robo432343]

DB doesn´t uses equalized speed and has the characters at their full power

So yeah, Jiraya was fighting a High 4-C and MFTL+ Roshi, lol, doesn´t surprises me he lose

but death battle didn't scale Roshi to High 4-C

 

[TheJokerNG]

Roshi AP stomps.

 

[Nierre]

ĵiraiya literally gets stomped here.
please stop making low iq matches

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

If Jiraiya starts directly with sage mode, he will win this match with Frog Genjutsu. However, if it starts in base form, it takes a long time to switch to sage mode. Jiraiya can enter sage mode inside the mouth of a frog he summons with kuchiyose. The frog I'm talking about is the one he used to keep Itachi and Kisame from running away.

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

If Jiraiya starts directly with sage mode, he will win this match with Frog Genjutsu.

Frog genjutsu takes time to set up, he's not winning with the before roshi ends hims. Especially since roshi has his own sleep inducement attack that takes far less time

However, if it starts in base form, it takes a long time to switch to sage mode. Jiraiya can enter sage mode inside the mouth of a frog he summons with kuchiyose. The frog I'm talking about is the one he used to keep Itachi and Kisame from running away.

Roshi will literally vaporize this frog and jiraiya within with one ki blast

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

How does Roshi's sleep-promoting hack work? Even though I watched DB, I don't remember it at all.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

How does Roshi's sleep-promoting hack work? Even though I watched DB, I don't remember it at all.

 

[That_moron2]

No
SBA already assumes sage mode is being used

Nu-uh, Sage Mode isn't a separate key so he starts in base.

 

[Robo432343]

Nu-uh, Sage Mode isn't a separate key

yes it is...

 

[That_moron2]

yes it is...

No its not...

 

[That_moron2]

Roshi wins this. Jiraiya does have win conditions though:
1. Transmutation
2. Frog Song
Transmutation isn't something Jiraiya generally uses in combat scenarios and to activate it he needs to get ahold of his opponent which will be difficult considering how skilled Roshi is. Frog Song takes a long time to charge up and Jiraiya being able to avoid someone who has moon-sized AoE and can kill him in one shot for that amount of time seems unlikely.