Roland of Gilead vs Geralt of Rivia

[ShivaShakti]

Roland Deschain fights Geralt of Rivia. Their fight takes place in an open desert, and they both start off at 2 meters from eachother.

Geralt has access to his full arsenal as does Roland. Speed is equalized of course, and this is a random encounter, so neither of them have prior knowledge.

Roland: 1

Geralt:

Inconclusive:

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Geralt tries Axii

Doesn't work.

Roland shoots a lot.

Does work.

Roland gets my vote.

 

[ShivaShakti]

XD

 

[ShivaShakti]

Bump

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Roland shoots a lot

Geralt uses Yrden

Bullets drop to the ground

Geralt uses Arctic Wind

Does work

Rolando is frozen to brittleness and breaks into pieces after a while

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Roland says hard no to all of Geralt's magic.

Gan's protection is a powerful thing.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Arctic Wind is a chemical bomb.

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

I know. Yrden wouldn't work. Neither would Quen, or any of Geralt's spells.

Basically, this comes down to speed and first actions. Geralt's start is Axii, which doesn't work, and Roland's start is rain bullets, which does, since no spell or magic works on Roland or can truly interfere with him.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

While Roland may not be affected, do his bullets also ignore magic?

Geralt doesn't exactly start with Axii all the time. He only does it when he doesn't want to fight. His actual combat in-character would be chucking bombs, Quen or drinking potions/decoctions.

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

So, 2-3 out of 4 result in him being riddled with bullets.

As for the bullets, they do in the books, but not in the movie.

And remember, Roland almost never stands still in a fight, he'd be running away the entire time as we see him do in The Gunslinger, and he's more than skilled enough to shoot thrown bombs out of the air.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Geralt is also skilled enough to dodge/parry bullets.

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Mmmmmmmmm, no, we really can't say that. The best feat he has are his arrow feats, which are massively below anything a bullet can do.

Even with speed equalized, bullets are far smaller than arrows, and far harder to deflect or parry. Additionally, he has to parry anywhere from six to twelve of these far smaller projectiles at once, since Roland rarely holds back and is more than willing to unload everything.

Dodging is a maybe, but Roland is more than skilled enough to anticipate dodge and plan for it, such as causing a dodge with one revolver and then unloading the second where the dodge would end up.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Geralt has speed amps too.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

Geralt's speed amps + experience with projectile deflection + experience with supersonic adversaries should allow him to deflect bullets with high difficulty at worse

 

[ShivaShakti]

"Supersonic adversaries" The verse is transonic

 

[SheevShezarrine]

"Supersonic adversaries" The verse is transonic

Dettlaff forms mach cones. That's supersonic by definition. I don't get why why transonic extends to above the speed of sound on this site, and idrc

 

[Apollodoro055]

Transonic speed don't create sonic booms and mach cones, otherwise in real life you would see that a transport airplane create sonic boom and mach cones, because they travel at transonic speed. Mach cones and sonic booms can be see only on military jet, that can travel at mach 2-mach 3, and above with others special jets. So, Dettlaff is at least a mach 3, so he's a legit suersonic character. Dettlaff not only forms mach cones, but he moves so fast that we can't even see his trail from distance, he looks like he's using a teleporting power, that's can happen only if he's moving well above supersonic speed. We can still see a military jet's trail with mach 2 speed, so, Dettlaff is above that speed.

 

[KLOL506]

We're working on upgrading Geralt's speed.

 

[ShivaShakti]

How much does Geralt's amp increase his speed by?

 

[TacticalNuke002]

From Transonic to Supersonic atm. Is being upgraded atm.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Bump

 

[ShivaShakti]

Geralt's speed amps + experience with projectile deflection + experience with supersonic adversaries should allow him to deflect bullets with high difficulty at worse

His projectile deflection isn't very impressive from what i've seen now that you bring it up. He just plocks arrows that go in a straight path, not bullets that wind and ricochet around the place.

 

[KLOL506]

Geralt is Supersonic+ now.

 

[ShivaShakti]

I am aware, but speed it still equalized.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Wait, why doesn't Quen or Yrden work?

 

[ShivaShakti]

Wait, why doesn't Quen or Yrden work?

Roland has Gan's protection which effectively makes him immune to all magic.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Yeah makes sense, Witcher signs are in fact magic.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Geralt can one shot yeah? Roland got Wall level durability

 

[ShivaShakti]

Geralt can one shot yeah? Roland got Wall level durability

He can but he needs to chase Roland to do so, as he will be running around the field and throwing out bullet storms.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Geralt has crossbow though, and he can harm 9-A characters with it

 

[ShivaShakti]

Geralt has crossbow though, and he can harm 9-A characters with it

Possibly, but i'm not so sure he would want to try Roland at his own game. Roland has an immensely precise shot (Was able to shoot off the corners of a cross from a great distance, and hit an object flying around in evasive and unpredictable patterns that would normally make shooting it with a bullet impossible.) Roland would likely just shoot the crossbow bolt out of the air should Geralt try it.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Somewhat corroborating that is the fact that the canon film has him shooting a thrown spear out of the air, as well as doing the same to several shards of glass that were telekinetically thrown at him by Flagg.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Geralt has a huge level of skill though, case in point the Jacques de Aldersburg fight in TW1.


Jacques de Aldersburg is an inheritor of the Elder Blood, which gives him the ability to time travel and really good clairvoyance (can precog his entire life through prophetic dreams). While still a small child, he foresaw himself dying at the hands of Geralt some 40 years later. He then prepped for the fight for 40 years, mastering the mystical arts and his Elder Blood powers, forming the Salamandra criminal organization (containing geniuses like Azar Javed) and the knight order called the Order of the Flaming Rose (individual members of which are more skilled than any average witcher) to act as his army. He concocted plots, hatched friendships with powerful and influential people and in general stacked the odds against Geralt before Geralt even knew that he would fight the Grandmaster. Despite all his prep time and clairvoyance, he still failed and got killed. Do note that the future seen via clairvoyance isn't absolute and can change based on the actions one takes, yet the final outcome of dying at Geralt's sword never changed.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Geralt has a huge level of skill though, case in point the Jacques de Aldersburg fight in TW1.

Jacques de Aldersburg is an inheritor of the Elder Blood, which gives him the ability to time travel and really good clairvoyance (can precog his entire life through prophetic dreams). While still a small child, he foresaw himself dying at the hands of Geralt some 40 years later. He then prepped for the fight for 40 years, mastering the mystical arts and his Elder Blood powers, forming the Salamandra criminal organization (containing geniuses like Azar Javed) and the knight order called the Order of the Flaming Rose (individual members of which are more skilled than any average witcher) to act as his army. He concocted plots, hatched friendships with powerful and influential people and in general stacked the odds against Geralt before Geralt even knew that he would fight the Grandmaster. Despite all his prep time and clairvoyance, he still failed and got killed. Do note that the future seen via clairvoyance isn't absolute and can change based on the actions one takes, yet the final outcome of dying at Geralt's sword never changed.

Doesn't really change the fact Geralt doesn't have feats deflecting projectiles on Roland's level, or having the skill to out shoot him in a projectile fight.