ShionAH
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What the hell are you talking about Jesse?
Rick not using his op stuff is Plot Induced stupidity since surprise surpise people who write the scrips dont care about powerscaling
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Rick Sanchez vs Black Hat
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Rick not using his op stuff is Plot Induced stupidity since surprise surpise people who write the scrips dont care about powerscaling
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This sounds like one big ******' excuse to dismiss actual flaws with Rick's in-character actions
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My vote going to Rick sanchez
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BH's tech manipulation makes this match a lot harder (4:28, with subs), with things like phones not working around him.
BH has several Wincons that bypass Rick's immortality that can used via a look. Sealing him inside his own tech, Mind Manip, transmutation, fusionism, etc
The biggest wincon that BH has is his subjective reality combined with his book. He has been shown to be able to transport entire kingdoms this way. It has a creature that can travel through different universes inside of likely showing this escape option would not work. And when the book is closed time stops for everything inside.
And thus far Rick's only defense is an ability he hasn't used in any matter with prep time, several time. May not have access to via own admission.
BH has several Wincons that bypass Rick's immortality that can used via a look. Sealing him inside his own tech, Mind Manip, transmutation, fusionism, etc
The biggest wincon that BH has is his subjective reality combined with his book. He has been shown to be able to transport entire kingdoms this way. It has a creature that can travel through different universes inside of likely showing this escape option would not work. And when the book is closed time stops for everything inside.
And thus far Rick's only defense is an ability he hasn't used in any matter with prep time, several time. May not have access to via own admission.
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"So just you use these to win fights?
I don't use them. People who use them to avoid death are already dead.."
The context is after he used them to watch for reloading, where asked if this is what he uses them for.
ShionAH
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We see Rick does use some extreme amount of tech against even normal humans but him not using it against bigger threats is an obivous case of PiS
I am voting Rick
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He probably has other win conditions but Rick using fortune cookies specifically doesn’t seem in-character tbh
ShionAH
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Why not? He is known to go overkill on his target
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All the times he has prep time and doesn’t use them.
Nah, waiting for better arguments.
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ShionAH
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What? Thats death crystals. I didnt even mention those
Which is a PiS
By the way Rick has Immersion that can be used on fictional paintings and books so Sealing isnt a viable wincon for Black har
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Again that is only a part of the one of the possible wincons. Since when BH closes it then time stops. This all on top of the problem of Rick's Tech not being fully operational via tech manip from BH.
Could you also grab a link/source because it is not in his profile from what I could see. I could have missed it 100% though.
ShionAH
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He has more
"But for real, has anyone seen him?
Grandpa, did you trap him in a painting again?
I didn't do sh*t."
We don't know the process, the technology needed, timeframe, if this is possible inside the painting, if it is combat applicable, etc
ShionAH
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Phones have cameras
We see that he can enter dreams (Immersion) it should be similar to that
He literally had to take Jerry out, I dont know why it would only work from the outside
Anyways I made my points and voted, vote whoever
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Wdym bro I dont understand xd?
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First of all, as far as I know, the expression of disrupting the technology that the black hat has, as far as I know, only does this to a camera, and this is obvious that Rick's equipment is much more separate than a normal camera, which is obvious, and I hope that if there is a technology application in the style used by Evil mortyn to manipulate the technology that Rick has, he can only achieve this.
In addition, Rick can react to all possible black hat attacks with probability cookies and additionally with the death crystal he has, he can react to all possible black hat attacks with extrasensory movement like mortyn did, in addition, he can foresee them and see the possibility that he will win and eat the cookies according to that situation and instantly change the fate in a way that he will win, in this case, all the black hat abilities you count will be meaningless.
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And this is why I stay away from Rick Matches 9/10, regurgitated arguments from at least one guy on one side...
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Did you just copy and paste the exact same argument?
We have shown completely different usage of the abilities.
Here is the character directly saying that he would not do exactly what you are saying.
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so that means rick fra
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I will make my case.
"So just you use these to win fights?
I don't use them. People who use them to avoid death are already dead.."
Showing direct evidence via the character himself, they would not do what you say.
Let me round up all the wincons that have made and have not been refuted
Rick: Ice and disintegration
BH: Sealing him inside his own tech, Mind Manip, transmutation, fusionism
even then BH has tech manipulation has not been refuted with the evidence provided.
He can manipulate more tech, this has been shown. Please read the rest of the convo
This is an ability Rick has used once and when given all the prep time he need on multiple occassions, he consistently never uses this. On top of the fact Rick said it was the last true fortune. Then to rap it all up he said
"So just you use these to win fights?
I don't use them. People who use them to avoid death are already dead.."
Showing direct evidence via the character himself, they would not do what you say.
Let me round up all the wincons that have made and have not been refuted
Rick: Ice and disintegration
BH: Sealing him inside his own tech, Mind Manip, transmutation, fusionism
even then BH has tech manipulation has not been refuted with the evidence provided.
Aolphl
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We assume that Rick has access to all of his optional weapons, and one of them is Fortune Cookies. Just because he's used them once doesn't mean he can't use them. If that's your reasoning, how about removing Attack Speed from Black Hat's profile? He only used the Magisword once.
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It just mean he's extremely unlikely to.
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Hey Shion
It doesn't matter if he's known to overkill or not
Because what matters is what he actually does in-canon
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This was your refute, there was 4 examples there. You didn't even fully look at the one example.
SBA: "State of mind: In character, but will attempt to win the battle".
Again it isn't a problem he only used it once, more the fact he hasn't used it when given the exact situation he is in currently. Multiple times.
You are the one who speed equalized it. I be perfectly fine in this situation with FTL
ShionAH
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Remind me the time Rick had to fight the lord of evil that can trap him in books and create thousands of universes
ShionAH
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He always affects cameras unless I missed a scan
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Remind me or the time Rick has ****** around with tier 2 entities. It's semi-often IIRC
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Yeah....there were four examples here
We have been talking about this for near the entire thread?
ShionAH
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He only dealt with one Tier 2 Entity. Rick Prime, iirc.
Who had Tier 9 durability
In which scan did he affect anything thag aint a camera?
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First of all, I didn't copy it, I just threw it only to him, assuming that the moderator didn't see it
In addition, I can't make sense of what you are saying because with 2 sentences you are implying something about the whole article I wrote, but I haven't read this revision in full
So give me a proper summary or my argument will be the same
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sighI mean, it's a little different from what you guys are saying, but whatever...
What we're saying is is if a guy uses something only once, he's unlikely to use it again.
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My guy, please read. Because other than the last one it is all of them.
best example is the one with a time stamp on the side
You want me to make a summary for something you are paying attention to instead of reading?
The death crystal idea is bunk because the quote I gave showed he straight up would not use. The fortune cookie idea has not been used in any situation where he had time or reason to use it. Looking for, beating, anything with Rick prime. Could reach farther with Dinos, Pope, etc. Then with Rick saying it was the last good fortune shows he might not have access to it.
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