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Speed is Equalized. Revan is in his 2nd key, and this is Rinnegan Sasuke with Six Paths Susanoo. Who shall win? Let's find out.
Revan: 9
Sasuke: 1
Revan: 9
Sasuke: 1
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Revan VS. Sasuke, cause it sounded cool.
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Revan either mindhaxes or force chokes
Besides the dude lost to Anakin already, no reason he beats Revan
Besides the dude lost to Anakin already, no reason he beats Revan
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DangSchnee One said:
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sasuke's versatility>>> almost everything revan has tbh
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Sasuke has 0 hax that would be effective vs Revan.
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teleportation of 2 different kinds, precong, sealing, amaterasu, possibly genjutsu if the op allows, supirior natural stats, idk how many other jutsus, clones, etc. i think u catch the drift
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Gimme a few minutes to write up a response but Revan is taking this
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ok
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Teleportation isn't doing anything for him. He doesn't have literal precog just reading the opponents movements, while Revan has actual precog from the Force telling him what to do. I don't remember Sasuke sealing anything. Amaterasu is very slow and he could remove the clothing that would get burned and he would make sure that doesn't happen again. Genjutsu isn't going to do anything for him.
While Revan outskills hard, can mindhax and snap his neck with with a thought.
While Revan outskills hard, can mindhax and snap his neck with with a thought.
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how do u know that it wouldnt do anything? and regardless, force precog requires actual concentration, while sauske's precog is constant with the sharingan. and sasuke has sealin, otherwise, him summoning weapons wouldnt be a thing. he can seal a person in those, just like sai can. amaterasu is very slow u say, but fast enough to catch someone much faster than sasuke, on his second or third usage of it ever my dude. and as far as "could remove the clothing" only applies if sasuke doesnt spam it or if he doesnt aoe it. and why would genjutsu not do anything for him? u need proof mah man. yeah, once u said outskills hard, i noticed that this wasnt going anyhwhere lol
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Teleportation in Star Wars is nothing new. It doesn't and Sasuke's precog sucks, otherwise a lot of fights wouldn't have happened, useless against a moderatly skilled opponent. Literally never sealed anything or anyone in his life, moot point. Again literally never spammed it, hurts when you use it, and Revan is more than enough skilled to prevent it from happening more than once. Fodder in Star Wars can resist every single mind hax the whole Naruto verse has. Revan outskills all of Naruto.
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Revans skill, even by Star Wars high tiers, is ridiculous
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and? neither is omniscience. doesnt mean its not totally op tho, now, does it? and as far as i know, teleportation is something that like, 4 characters in star wars have. and as far as precog sucking, revan is no vader- he isnt pulling any attacks here without moving himself first. once he does that shit, sasuke will have already seen it, and he will be prepared for it. and who said he hasnt? him summoning shit from scrolls is sealing my man, just like i said above. ******* sai could do it lol. and what if he never spammed it? whats stopping him from doing so? its still there, and its still enough for sasuke to pull a win with it. and whats being skilled gonna change when revan just suddenly catches on fire hotter than literally anythng he ever experienced before, and that it wont go out? the moment he loses composure to rid himself from it, sauske would likely already have cut his head off, if they are going for the kill. good for those fodders. genjutsu in the naruto verse can insta kill, completely dominate a victim, or control a whole planet, depening on its lvl. sasuke took control of 9 6B creatures with nothing more than a glance. if he wants to end it with it a strong genjutsu in this case, he 100% can. lol at revan outsklling all of naruto. u have to prove ur shit my man. i dont care about u think, i care about what u can show me. and u have shown me nothing.
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Right.... so your argument is that your headcanon Sasuke is omniscient.
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u do know who sasuke is, right? like, tbh, if it was any other top tier except madara, i would 100% agree with u. but this is sasuke. he is above almost every single other god tier in his verse besides for madara himself. literally, nobody comes close except madara.Schnee One said:
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yeah, im done. good luck. i already left my vote and reasoning.Ogbunabali said:
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Revan, like most Jedi and Sith, was training to become a Jedi Knight since he was 6, and around that time started to very quickly surpass some of the other students before becoming a Jedi Knight.
Very Quickly, he immediately led his own battalion on his own into the mandalorian Wars, a group of people who wear equipment specifically designed to make Lightsabers useless against armor, Revan being able to defeat the comfortably by striking certain uncovered points in their armor such as the gaps in their helmets.
Now to the good stuff.
Revan loses his memories after the mandalorian war after getting betrayed by Malak, his apprentice, who Revan taught everything he knew too, thus making Malak practically untouchable by basically every Jedi Master.
Revan is then completely forced to both physically and mentally retrain in the ways of the force and sword combat, which by the way, takes years for a standard Jedi Knight to do, it only takes him a couple weeks.
Revan then proceeds to very quickly remember and understand as well as combine both his previous and new fighting style to overwhelm and defeat a Malak who was amped by the Star forge and had the help of Jedi in stasis to force Drain.
Two years of relaxing and hot wife ******* later, he then meets Lord Scourge, for the record, this guy was able to master all 7 forms of light saber combat in months, it takes a year to master one or two under normal circumstances.
Revan also matches Vitiate very well, who has over 1500 years of combat expirience.
Scourge becomes the new emperors wrath and after a small boost in power goes completely undefeated for every 350 years.
And yet after all that time, he still admits he's not as skilled as Revan once was.
Very Quickly, he immediately led his own battalion on his own into the mandalorian Wars, a group of people who wear equipment specifically designed to make Lightsabers useless against armor, Revan being able to defeat the comfortably by striking certain uncovered points in their armor such as the gaps in their helmets.
Now to the good stuff.
Revan loses his memories after the mandalorian war after getting betrayed by Malak, his apprentice, who Revan taught everything he knew too, thus making Malak practically untouchable by basically every Jedi Master.
Revan is then completely forced to both physically and mentally retrain in the ways of the force and sword combat, which by the way, takes years for a standard Jedi Knight to do, it only takes him a couple weeks.
Revan then proceeds to very quickly remember and understand as well as combine both his previous and new fighting style to overwhelm and defeat a Malak who was amped by the Star forge and had the help of Jedi in stasis to force Drain.
Two years of relaxing and hot wife ******* later, he then meets Lord Scourge, for the record, this guy was able to master all 7 forms of light saber combat in months, it takes a year to master one or two under normal circumstances.
Revan also matches Vitiate very well, who has over 1500 years of combat expirience.
Scourge becomes the new emperors wrath and after a small boost in power goes completely undefeated for every 350 years.
And yet after all that time, he still admits he's not as skilled as Revan once was.
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i kinda know revans story. his 350 years of existance are only there cuz he was 'imprisoned' by vitiate for 300 of those years. the rest is what counts. and him traning to be a jedi since he was 6 is legit trash when compared to sasuke's ninja traning at the same age, which then took a huge ass turn into trying to kill one of the strongest characters in the show. so as far as traning goes, sasuke is already above the revan being used here. secondly, while revan does have more war experience, he certainly does not have more combat exp. sasuke did nothing but traning for all those years. he defeated characters more skilled than him, just like revan did using his wits. all of revan's feas kinda apply to sasuke as well. and while revan may be more strategical, he is not above sasuke in actual fightining, by any means. that is sasuke's storng point, and revans weak point. both are strong in it, but sasuke has already mastered it, while revan is really really good at it. as far as skill goes, neither has anything above the other
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Revan wins every time. Reasons will come latter.
And yes he is above Sasuke in experience. Sasuke may have done nothing but train for his years, but Revan did the exact same in the jedi academy and was noted for always having a hunger to learn. He also applied this knowledge on the battle more frequently than Sasuke. Experience in War > Training
Also no, he didn't. The only characters Sasuke has beaten with more skill than him, 1v1, are Itachi Uchiha and Orochimaru, and both were greatly weakened. Revan was just better than everyone he fought except Vitiate. Even after losing his memories, he could in the span of a few weeks be back up to Malak+ Tier.
"'revan may be more strategical, he is not above sasuke in actual fightining, by any means. that is sasuke's storng point, and revans weak point. both are strong in it, but sasuke has already mastered it, while revan is really really good at it.'''''"
Based on what, exactly? And how the hell can it be said to be Revan's weak point?
Revan won every fight he was ever in, barring Vitiate, being dogpiled by the Emperor's Wrath and other Imperial characters while weakened from 300 years of Vitiate's torture, and fighting the galaxy's strongest fighters 1v13 (Knight, Wrath, Barsen'thor, Smuggler, Trooper, Cipher 9 (probably the strongest non-force sensitive in SW), Bounty Hunter, Nox/Occlus/Imperius, Lana Beniko, Darth Marr, Satele Shan, Shae Vizla (possibly related to a guy thousands of years later who fought Maul and almost won), and a Wookie, at half strength, and still holding his own pretty well. Don't forget that with Vitiate, although he clearly had the upper hand, it is noted that Revan had a solid chance of pulling through and beating him.
Sasuke on the other hand, has lost plenty of fights fair and square against the likes of Killer B, Madara, Naruto, would've lost against Kabuto if Itachi didn't save him, and a few others.
If anything, the opposite is true. Revan has mastered or is competent in every form of fighting in Star Wars. The only abilities he doesn't have is shit that only the absolute light-and-dark embodiments (for lack of a better word) have. Like Palpatine and force storms, or Qui-Gon becoming a force ghost (and he might even have the latter, given Light Revan did)
And yes he is above Sasuke in experience. Sasuke may have done nothing but train for his years, but Revan did the exact same in the jedi academy and was noted for always having a hunger to learn. He also applied this knowledge on the battle more frequently than Sasuke. Experience in War > Training
Also no, he didn't. The only characters Sasuke has beaten with more skill than him, 1v1, are Itachi Uchiha and Orochimaru, and both were greatly weakened. Revan was just better than everyone he fought except Vitiate. Even after losing his memories, he could in the span of a few weeks be back up to Malak+ Tier.
"'revan may be more strategical, he is not above sasuke in actual fightining, by any means. that is sasuke's storng point, and revans weak point. both are strong in it, but sasuke has already mastered it, while revan is really really good at it.'''''"
Based on what, exactly? And how the hell can it be said to be Revan's weak point?
Revan won every fight he was ever in, barring Vitiate, being dogpiled by the Emperor's Wrath and other Imperial characters while weakened from 300 years of Vitiate's torture, and fighting the galaxy's strongest fighters 1v13 (Knight, Wrath, Barsen'thor, Smuggler, Trooper, Cipher 9 (probably the strongest non-force sensitive in SW), Bounty Hunter, Nox/Occlus/Imperius, Lana Beniko, Darth Marr, Satele Shan, Shae Vizla (possibly related to a guy thousands of years later who fought Maul and almost won), and a Wookie, at half strength, and still holding his own pretty well. Don't forget that with Vitiate, although he clearly had the upper hand, it is noted that Revan had a solid chance of pulling through and beating him.
Sasuke on the other hand, has lost plenty of fights fair and square against the likes of Killer B, Madara, Naruto, would've lost against Kabuto if Itachi didn't save him, and a few others.
If anything, the opposite is true. Revan has mastered or is competent in every form of fighting in Star Wars. The only abilities he doesn't have is shit that only the absolute light-and-dark embodiments (for lack of a better word) have. Like Palpatine and force storms, or Qui-Gon becoming a force ghost (and he might even have the latter, given Light Revan did)
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Anyway, Revan wins 10/10. None of Sasuke's defenses can counter Revan doing this
Revan's Force Immunity lets him lolnope mindhax, Force Aura gives him a RWBY-style omnidirectional shield, going by the game, Stasis Field can induce sleep or at the very least fatigue, Energy Resistance, known in the overall EU as Tutaminis, gives him energy absorption (and going by the Revan novel, he can also reflect energy while amping it with his own power)
On the dark side of things (Even Jedi Revan had these, as he walked both paths, as the Novel makes it clear. His morality was firmly on the light tho), he also has force drain (and likely resistance to it, given Kreia and Meetra both seemed confident that Revan would've beaten Nihilus), can induce fear, horror or outright insanity. He has the force storm ability, which can do this , wound which trigers spasms in the lungs, and Plague, which induces illness
These are Revan's most hax abilities in KOTOR, and while Sasuke shares some of them, they can all be negated by Revan just force-crushing his left eye, which Sasuke has no counter so, and Revan would eventually figure out that most of Sasuke's most dangerous abilities are linked to his eyes. While Sasuke might figure out the same thing regarding the force and gestures, they're not needed to do them, just convenient. Revan is comparable (or, as this wiki believes, superior to) Darth Vader, who can use TK without much gesture and even keep fighting while doing it.
Revan's Force Immunity lets him lolnope mindhax, Force Aura gives him a RWBY-style omnidirectional shield, going by the game, Stasis Field can induce sleep or at the very least fatigue, Energy Resistance, known in the overall EU as Tutaminis, gives him energy absorption (and going by the Revan novel, he can also reflect energy while amping it with his own power)
On the dark side of things (Even Jedi Revan had these, as he walked both paths, as the Novel makes it clear. His morality was firmly on the light tho), he also has force drain (and likely resistance to it, given Kreia and Meetra both seemed confident that Revan would've beaten Nihilus), can induce fear, horror or outright insanity. He has the force storm ability, which can do this , wound which trigers spasms in the lungs, and Plague, which induces illness
These are Revan's most hax abilities in KOTOR, and while Sasuke shares some of them, they can all be negated by Revan just force-crushing his left eye, which Sasuke has no counter so, and Revan would eventually figure out that most of Sasuke's most dangerous abilities are linked to his eyes. While Sasuke might figure out the same thing regarding the force and gestures, they're not needed to do them, just convenient. Revan is comparable (or, as this wiki believes, superior to) Darth Vader, who can use TK without much gesture and even keep fighting while doing it.
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oh man, long paragraph time. ill just counter for now, i guess.. 1-hunger to get stronger is sasuke's moto, and this isnt first ep of shippuden sasuke, this is shippuden sasuke with all his feats and experiences. as far as that goes, variety wise, sasuke has him by far. nothing he can do will actually surprise sasuke except mind tricks. and thats a maybe tbh. 2- wow, great for revan. do u even know how those enemies compare to sasuke? no? good, cuz literally nobody does, so try not to highball him by saying he fought people on his level all the time. wont really work here, since sasuke's feats are just better. him not being beaten could just be that his enemies werent that strong or skilled. like, do u even know how to rank malak and sasuke, one based off of the other? nobody does. and him being malak tier is nothing, since all he did was lose his memories. everything else he had beforehand was still there, waiting for him to get them back. he only got his early traning and brain wash, post memory loss. nothing more. 3- finally an actual good point. i dont actually disagree that revan is more expd than sasuke, but that really isnt doing anything for either of in this fight. and vitiate is just another madara, in star wars. sasuke could also fight the guy as an equal. difference is, sasuke did actually almost kill him, if it werent for jutsus that saved his literal and physical ass every now and then. oh, and im not really sure on this, but skill wise, vitiate is nothing special, expect with the force, which revan is not even comparable to, so that isnt helping revan here either. oh, and since we are using jeid revan, according to u, it means that all his previous years to exp before his memory loss is now in the trash, and is currently useless. sasuke yet again has exp above revan..... 4- so, by killer bee, who has just as much exp as revan btw in this case, destroyed sasuke, since he above him in every single possible way except wits, and since sasuke could actually hold his own against someone that much above him, thats already enough reason for me to back sasuke. same applies to madara, but even better this time around. naruto was holding back in the final fight, so yet again, he fought someone stronger than him, and his fight against kabuto is the opposite of fair lol kabuto had the whole thing planned out. he only lost due to a jutsu that almost nobody knew existed, and if used by a living person, they wouldve blind anyhow, so yes, yet again, sasuke could hold his own agaisnt very bad odds. good enough reason for him to not have any problem with revan's supirior exp, which doesnt apply here, cuz memory loss. 5- him mastering all of them is really not impressive btw. the grand inquisitor also did that shit, and the guy lost to someone weaker than ventress. another example is how dooku only used one style at a time, but was so good with it, that he could his own and beat master of all other styles. that is true skill. not what revan has. sasuke has true skill in fighting. and for one, sasuke can also copy anything physical that revan does. no close quarters fight will result in revan as the winner. sasuke is above him in everything. maybe a sword fight could be close, but anything else, revan loses. 6- nice. u just named about all the powers that sasuke also has lol thanks. as for abilities that would work on sasuke and be actually dangerous, drain is the only one i can think of. nothing else that jedi revan has will actually work well on sasuke, since he can either counter it, take advantage of it, and or just escape it. like, even the insanity thing, which is a good point, is something that all chakra users can pull off by giving off killing intent. kakashi almost made sasuke kill himself and his killing intent was focused on zabuza lol if feels like going full killer mode, revan will also have psychological problems. 7- how would revan figure that out?? thats head canon my dude. he would likely first have to figure out which sasuke is the real sasuke, while triying to put out or escape amaterasu, while not triyng to be eletrocuted alive. as per the vader thing, he is known to be the one user of the no-gesture shit, so i wouldnt see revan doing it as well as vader, but can revan pull it off quickly and effiently? for sure. 100%. can sasuke do the same, but possibly even better, based on what we have seen? just as sure.
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Please start using capital letters and separate your walls of text in paragraphs. I doubt anyone would read that the way it is right now.
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I will do my best to respond
1-hunger to get stronger is sasuke's moto, and this isnt first ep of shippuden sasuke, this is shippuden sasuke with all his feats and experiences. as far as that goes, variety wise, sasuke has him by far. nothing he can do will actually surprise sasuke except mind tricks. and thats a maybe tbh.
Sasuke doesn't have variety over Revan at all. His teleportation is countered by precog, his soul manip is countered by Revan's resistance to it (given he likely resists drain, which is all but stated to have soul aspects to it, given Nihilus is implied to be talking with the souls of his victims iirc). Also, you really don't think getting grabbed in the eye and/or heart, being suddenly sluggish, getting his energy atttacks absorbed and reflected back at him with Revan's own power, getting his energy drained, getting ragdolled even while behind the Susanoo, or Revan inducing insanity, fear or horror, among other things, won't surprise him? When you remove the resistances or just straight up useless powers (and Cursed Seal powers he doesn't have anymore), this is what he's got
Powers and Abilities: Surface Scaling, Fire Manipulation, Breath Attack, Electricity Manipulation, Explosion Manipulation with explosive tag, Shapeshifting (Can transform into animate and inanimate objects), , Power Mimicry (The Sharingan allows the user to copy Jutsu used by others, including combat styles), Precognition (He can predict someone's movements based on the smallest muscle tension thanks to the Sharingan, allowing him to cleanly retaliate and counterattack without wasting any movements),Pain Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Perception Manipulation, Illusion Creation, and Mind Manipulation (Can trap people in Genjutsu without eye contact, and control others with the Sharingan) with Sharingan Genjutsu, Can see camouflaged targets with the SharingaSummoning (Can summon Garuda, his hawk, and snakes), Resistance to Poisons, Fire Manipulation (Can create powerful black flames that burn anything and cannot be extinguished, with himself being the only one that can put them out), Can create an ethereal warrior like creature that acts offensively and defensively, Sealing, Chakra Absorption, Air Manipulation, Water Manipulation, Earth Manipulation, Healing with the Preta Path and Naraka Path, Sleep Manipulation with Sharingan Genjutsu, Paralysis with the black receivers (Can paralyse and hinder the movements of targets, as well as control them), Flight (Via the Deva Path and Perfect Susano'o), Telekinesis and Gravity Manipulation (The Deva Path allows him to manipulate attractive and repulsive forces, and he create a center of gravity with Chibaku Tensei), Teleportation (Can switch his location with that of other people or objects with his Rinnegan), Possible Body Control and Technological Manipulation (The Asura Path allows the user to create additional mechanical arms and weaponry such as blades, drills, missiles and cannons), Resurrection (Can revive the dead with the Outer Path), Mind Reading and Soul Manipulation (Can read the minds of targets and extract their souls after making contact with them with the Human Path), and Summoning (Can summon various animals, some of which can fly and bombard targets from above, manipulate water, continuously split into separate entities when attacked, and a demon that instantly kills targets who lie, and can keep and transfer souls with the Animal Path), Can see invisible beings that exist in a separate dimension,
Let me go through this ability by ability
Surface Scaling: Revan can just blow a hole through the surface or throw Sasuke off it with Telekinesis. Or make him fall via heart-attack inducement
Explosion Manip: Revan can just block it with his force shield, or just move it away from him via telekinesis and tutaminis
Power Mimicry: Revan doesn't use Jutsu and his fighting style requires secondary powers Sasuke doesn't have, such as improved precog and awareness of his surroundings. Sasuke can't copy his lightsaber techniques or his force abilities
Precognition (He can predict someone's movements based on the smallest muscle tension thanks to the Sharingan, allowing him to cleanly retaliate and counterattack without wasting any movements): Revan's precog is better, because he can detect the future to a degree as well as do that.
Pain Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Perception Manipulation, Illusion Creation, and Mind Manipulation (Can trap people in Genjutsu without eye contact, and control others with the Sharingan) with Sharingan Genjutsu. Can see camouflade: Revan resists all of these abilities and has them to a greater degree than Sasuke. If Revan crushes eyes, Sasuke doesn't have or resist it anymore. Revan also doesn't use camouflage
Summoning: Aside from the fact that Revan would destroy anymore Sasuke summons, Revan can just grab his hands with tk to stop his jutsu
Resistance to poisons: resistance doesn't mean immunity. If Revan decides to ravage Sasuke's body with disease, it will negatively affect him, since Itachi died because of similar reasons and the Sage of Six Paths died of old age, meaning disease can logically affect him.
Fire Manip: Revan can reflect it, stop it while Sasuke is breathing a fireball (making it literally blow up in his face), or again, just grab his hands with TK while he's doing the Jutsu
Sealing: Requires Naruto to use on 5-B characters and 7-A characters can break out of Shinra Tensei. Won't help here.
Chakra Absorption: I don't know if this means he has energy absorption or just chakra absorption, since it's only been used against the Rasengan iirc, rather than say, Fireball. But even if I gave him that, it's a mutual advantage, and Revan doesn't lose this ability if someone crushes his left eye
Air, Water and Earth manip: TK is far more versatile than any of these
Healing: Revan's healing is > Sasuke's since it gives him low-mid regen and doesn't require more than a second to think
Sleep Manip: Won't work on Revan because he resists it due to Force Immunity
Paralysis via black recievers: It's only really been used to pin someone down, so I doubt how effective it would be, tbh. Again, Revan resists and can do the same thing to him.
Telekinesis and Gravity: Revan's TK is >>>>>>> Sasuke's in versatility, and Deva Path can only be used to push and pull objects or send them inside a ball of debris. Revan can do that and much, much, much more.
Technological Manip: Revan uses his Destroy Droid ability. GG since nobody in Naruto with robotic parts has shown resistance to it.
Mind Reading: Force-users can shield themselves from this
Soul Manip: Revan likely has this and resistance to it, but it could possibly work
Can see invisible beings. Revan doesn't have invisibility, so that doesn't matter.
Sasuke, on the other hand, has no counter to Revan's illness inducement, fear/horror/insanity inducement, his superior healing, his overall better energy manip, his force drain, his wound ability (damages lungs), his ability to just crush Sasuke's internal organs, and of course, his lightsaber that cuts through 4-B characters like butter
https://strategywiki.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic/Force_powers
Revan's profile is honestly very incomplete
2- wow, great for revan. do u even know how those enemies compare to sasuke? no? good, cuz literally nobody does, so try not to highball him by saying he fought people on his level all the time. wont really work here, since sasuke's feats are just better. him not being beaten could just be that his enemies werent that strong or skilled. like, do u even know how to rank malak and sasuke, one based off of the other? nobody does. and him being malak tier is nothing, since all he did was lose his memories. everything else he had beforehand was still there, waiting for him to get them back. he only got his early traning and brain wash, post memory loss. nothing more.
Nobody does compare or surpass him in skill. Except This guy, that guy, and allof these guys.
Malak was already decently comparable to Revan. Also, Sasuke doesn't fight people on his level that often. Revan does since every fodder jedi is 5-B, rather than every ninja being 8C to 7-A.
And he did learn some more things, since Malak notes he was stronger than he was pre-amnesia
Okay, can you tell me how Madara would compare to Obi-Wan? No, then don't use that as an argument. Actually show why Sasuke's feats of skill or wit are better, because all evidence points to the opposite
3- finally an actual good point. i dont actually disagree that revan is more expd than sasuke, but that really isnt doing anything for either of in this fight. and vitiate is just another madara, in star wars. sasuke could also fight the guy as an equal. difference is, sasuke did actually almost kill him, if it werent for jutsus that saved his literal and physical ass every now and then. oh, and im not really sure on this, but skill wise, vitiate is nothing special, expect with the force, which revan is not even comparable to, so that isnt helping revan here either. oh, and since we are using jeid revan, according to u, it means that all his previous years to exp before his memory loss is now in the trash, and is currently useless. sasuke yet again has exp above revan.....
Madara is just another really strong guy. Vitiate is about as close to an Eldritch Abomination as you can get without actually being one. And no, Sasuke wouldn't stand a chance against Vitiate since he's 4-B while Sasuke is 5-B
And yeah, Revan actually did come close to beating Vitiate. Scourge just betrays him before anything can happen.
Revan is comparable to Vitiate, he's just inferior.
Actually, it isn't. Revan remembers his time before his memory loss, considering he reflects on it before fighting the Imperial team in SWTOR
4- so, by killer bee, who has just as much exp as revan btw in this case, destroyed sasuke, since he above him in every single possible way except wits, and since sasuke could actually hold his own against someone that much above him, thats already enough reason for me to back sasuke. same applies to madara, but even better this time around. naruto was holding back in the final fight, so yet again, he fought someone stronger than him, and his fight against kabuto is the opposite of fair lol kabuto had the whole thing planned out. he only lost due to a jutsu that almost nobody knew existed, and if used by a living person, they wouldve blind anyhow, so yes, yet again, sasuke could hold his own agaisnt very bad odds. good enough reason for him to not have any problem with revan's supirior exp, which doesnt apply here, cuz memory loss.
Killer B's experience isn't comparable to Revan's. He spends most of his time rapping lol.
None of anything you just said changes that Sasuke lost against characters who weren't that far above him. Madara wasn't 5-B to his 6-A, same with ther others.
And actually, Kabuto is a point against him. Malak planned the fight out as well and Revan outplayed him despite it.
5- him mastering all of them is really not impressive btw. the grand inquisitor also did that shit, and the guy lost to someone weaker than ventress. another example is how dooku only used one style at a time, but was so good with it, that he could his own and beat master of all other styles. that is true skill. not what revan has. sasuke has true skill in fighting. and for one, sasuke can also copy anything physical that revan does. no close quarters fight will result in revan as the winner. sasuke is above him in everything. maybe a sword fight could be close, but anything else, revan loses.
Dude, the Grand Inquisitor A) Is not canon to Legends, and B) Didn't master anything. He was a mid-tier at best. Palpatine wouldn't have let him become a true master, as that wasn't his purpose.
And Dooku didn't just know 1 style. He taught people in Ataru, Jar'kai, soresu, etc. Makashi was just his favorite.
Sasuke can't copy his force abilities, and while he can copy physical techniques, he wouldn't understand the meaning of them because he doesn't have precog
"Sasuke is above him in everything": Except precognition, possibly energy absorption, telekinesis, versatility, and defense bypassing, among other things
6- nice. u just named about all the powers that sasuke also has lol thanks. as for abilities that would work on sasuke and be actually dangerous, drain is the only one i can think of. nothing else that jedi revan has will actually work well on sasuke, since he can either counter it, take advantage of it, and or just escape it. like, even the insanity thing, which is a good point, is something that all chakra users can pull off by giving off killing intent. kakashi almost made sasuke kill himself and his killing intent was focused on zabuza lol if feels like going full killer mode, revan will also have psychological problems.
Is this a joke? Revan's mind survived being ravaged by someone who can mind-control planets passively. Something that made a kid almost kill himself isn't going to do anything to Revan. He's also seen FAR more war, death and destruction in both the Mandalorian and Malak-Era war than Sasuke is ever going to see in his life. Revan would think "that's cute" in all honesty.
How is Sasuke going to counter, evade or take advantage of
-Revan crushing his heart or ripping his eyes out. Revan doesn't even need eyes to fight at all (see Dooku)
-Revan poisoning or causing disease in his body, the same thing that crippled Itachi and Orochimaru. Sasuke being Six Paths doesn't matter since he's susceptible to age, which logically means he is susceptible to those things, even if his excellent health would lessen the effects.
-Revan causing spasms in his lungs
-Revan interrupting his jutsu via precog and TK, or stopping his fireball jutsu and reflecting it
-Revan nuking him with a force storm that he can stop at any time
-Revan choking him behind the Susanoo
-Revan just cutting him in half with his lightsaber, which again, can cut 4-B characters
-If they are fatigued, Revan taking 2 seconds to heal himself
7- how would revan figure that out?? thats head canon my dude. he would likely first have to figure out which sasuke is the real sasuke, while triying to put out or escape amaterasu, while not triyng to be eletrocuted alive. as per the vader thing, he is known to be the one user of the no-gesture shit, so i wouldnt see revan doing it as well as vader, but can revan pull it off quickly and effiently? for sure. 100%. can sasuke do the same, but possibly even better, based on what we have seen? just as sure.
He can see with more than his eyes and precog shows him how attacks happen. Anyone could pick up on Sasuke's eyes being wide open or bleeding from his attacks, or just glowing, changing, etc whenever he does something. The force is not so telegraphed.
He can find out which Sasuke is the real Sasuke with Force Wave, hitting targets omnidirectionally and poofing all but the real Sasuke. As for how he would countter those things, Revan can just wave amaterasu and electricity back at him with tutaminis like this
Revan can do it since he's >= Vader as per this wiki
And no, that's not how this works. Sasuke can't do jutsu without hand gestures, and nobody in Naruto does so to my knowledge, save certain powers that aren't jutsu at all.
1-hunger to get stronger is sasuke's moto, and this isnt first ep of shippuden sasuke, this is shippuden sasuke with all his feats and experiences. as far as that goes, variety wise, sasuke has him by far. nothing he can do will actually surprise sasuke except mind tricks. and thats a maybe tbh.
Sasuke doesn't have variety over Revan at all. His teleportation is countered by precog, his soul manip is countered by Revan's resistance to it (given he likely resists drain, which is all but stated to have soul aspects to it, given Nihilus is implied to be talking with the souls of his victims iirc). Also, you really don't think getting grabbed in the eye and/or heart, being suddenly sluggish, getting his energy atttacks absorbed and reflected back at him with Revan's own power, getting his energy drained, getting ragdolled even while behind the Susanoo, or Revan inducing insanity, fear or horror, among other things, won't surprise him? When you remove the resistances or just straight up useless powers (and Cursed Seal powers he doesn't have anymore), this is what he's got
Powers and Abilities: Surface Scaling, Fire Manipulation, Breath Attack, Electricity Manipulation, Explosion Manipulation with explosive tag, Shapeshifting (Can transform into animate and inanimate objects), , Power Mimicry (The Sharingan allows the user to copy Jutsu used by others, including combat styles), Precognition (He can predict someone's movements based on the smallest muscle tension thanks to the Sharingan, allowing him to cleanly retaliate and counterattack without wasting any movements),Pain Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Perception Manipulation, Illusion Creation, and Mind Manipulation (Can trap people in Genjutsu without eye contact, and control others with the Sharingan) with Sharingan Genjutsu, Can see camouflaged targets with the SharingaSummoning (Can summon Garuda, his hawk, and snakes), Resistance to Poisons, Fire Manipulation (Can create powerful black flames that burn anything and cannot be extinguished, with himself being the only one that can put them out), Can create an ethereal warrior like creature that acts offensively and defensively, Sealing, Chakra Absorption, Air Manipulation, Water Manipulation, Earth Manipulation, Healing with the Preta Path and Naraka Path, Sleep Manipulation with Sharingan Genjutsu, Paralysis with the black receivers (Can paralyse and hinder the movements of targets, as well as control them), Flight (Via the Deva Path and Perfect Susano'o), Telekinesis and Gravity Manipulation (The Deva Path allows him to manipulate attractive and repulsive forces, and he create a center of gravity with Chibaku Tensei), Teleportation (Can switch his location with that of other people or objects with his Rinnegan), Possible Body Control and Technological Manipulation (The Asura Path allows the user to create additional mechanical arms and weaponry such as blades, drills, missiles and cannons), Resurrection (Can revive the dead with the Outer Path), Mind Reading and Soul Manipulation (Can read the minds of targets and extract their souls after making contact with them with the Human Path), and Summoning (Can summon various animals, some of which can fly and bombard targets from above, manipulate water, continuously split into separate entities when attacked, and a demon that instantly kills targets who lie, and can keep and transfer souls with the Animal Path), Can see invisible beings that exist in a separate dimension,
Let me go through this ability by ability
Surface Scaling: Revan can just blow a hole through the surface or throw Sasuke off it with Telekinesis. Or make him fall via heart-attack inducement
Explosion Manip: Revan can just block it with his force shield, or just move it away from him via telekinesis and tutaminis
Power Mimicry: Revan doesn't use Jutsu and his fighting style requires secondary powers Sasuke doesn't have, such as improved precog and awareness of his surroundings. Sasuke can't copy his lightsaber techniques or his force abilities
Precognition (He can predict someone's movements based on the smallest muscle tension thanks to the Sharingan, allowing him to cleanly retaliate and counterattack without wasting any movements): Revan's precog is better, because he can detect the future to a degree as well as do that.
Pain Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Perception Manipulation, Illusion Creation, and Mind Manipulation (Can trap people in Genjutsu without eye contact, and control others with the Sharingan) with Sharingan Genjutsu. Can see camouflade: Revan resists all of these abilities and has them to a greater degree than Sasuke. If Revan crushes eyes, Sasuke doesn't have or resist it anymore. Revan also doesn't use camouflage
Summoning: Aside from the fact that Revan would destroy anymore Sasuke summons, Revan can just grab his hands with tk to stop his jutsu
Resistance to poisons: resistance doesn't mean immunity. If Revan decides to ravage Sasuke's body with disease, it will negatively affect him, since Itachi died because of similar reasons and the Sage of Six Paths died of old age, meaning disease can logically affect him.
Fire Manip: Revan can reflect it, stop it while Sasuke is breathing a fireball (making it literally blow up in his face), or again, just grab his hands with TK while he's doing the Jutsu
Sealing: Requires Naruto to use on 5-B characters and 7-A characters can break out of Shinra Tensei. Won't help here.
Chakra Absorption: I don't know if this means he has energy absorption or just chakra absorption, since it's only been used against the Rasengan iirc, rather than say, Fireball. But even if I gave him that, it's a mutual advantage, and Revan doesn't lose this ability if someone crushes his left eye
Air, Water and Earth manip: TK is far more versatile than any of these
Healing: Revan's healing is > Sasuke's since it gives him low-mid regen and doesn't require more than a second to think
Sleep Manip: Won't work on Revan because he resists it due to Force Immunity
Paralysis via black recievers: It's only really been used to pin someone down, so I doubt how effective it would be, tbh. Again, Revan resists and can do the same thing to him.
Telekinesis and Gravity: Revan's TK is >>>>>>> Sasuke's in versatility, and Deva Path can only be used to push and pull objects or send them inside a ball of debris. Revan can do that and much, much, much more.
Technological Manip: Revan uses his Destroy Droid ability. GG since nobody in Naruto with robotic parts has shown resistance to it.
Mind Reading: Force-users can shield themselves from this
Soul Manip: Revan likely has this and resistance to it, but it could possibly work
Can see invisible beings. Revan doesn't have invisibility, so that doesn't matter.
Sasuke, on the other hand, has no counter to Revan's illness inducement, fear/horror/insanity inducement, his superior healing, his overall better energy manip, his force drain, his wound ability (damages lungs), his ability to just crush Sasuke's internal organs, and of course, his lightsaber that cuts through 4-B characters like butter
https://strategywiki.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic/Force_powers
Revan's profile is honestly very incomplete
2- wow, great for revan. do u even know how those enemies compare to sasuke? no? good, cuz literally nobody does, so try not to highball him by saying he fought people on his level all the time. wont really work here, since sasuke's feats are just better. him not being beaten could just be that his enemies werent that strong or skilled. like, do u even know how to rank malak and sasuke, one based off of the other? nobody does. and him being malak tier is nothing, since all he did was lose his memories. everything else he had beforehand was still there, waiting for him to get them back. he only got his early traning and brain wash, post memory loss. nothing more.
Nobody does compare or surpass him in skill. Except This guy, that guy, and allof these guys.
Malak was already decently comparable to Revan. Also, Sasuke doesn't fight people on his level that often. Revan does since every fodder jedi is 5-B, rather than every ninja being 8C to 7-A.
And he did learn some more things, since Malak notes he was stronger than he was pre-amnesia
Okay, can you tell me how Madara would compare to Obi-Wan? No, then don't use that as an argument. Actually show why Sasuke's feats of skill or wit are better, because all evidence points to the opposite
3- finally an actual good point. i dont actually disagree that revan is more expd than sasuke, but that really isnt doing anything for either of in this fight. and vitiate is just another madara, in star wars. sasuke could also fight the guy as an equal. difference is, sasuke did actually almost kill him, if it werent for jutsus that saved his literal and physical ass every now and then. oh, and im not really sure on this, but skill wise, vitiate is nothing special, expect with the force, which revan is not even comparable to, so that isnt helping revan here either. oh, and since we are using jeid revan, according to u, it means that all his previous years to exp before his memory loss is now in the trash, and is currently useless. sasuke yet again has exp above revan.....
Madara is just another really strong guy. Vitiate is about as close to an Eldritch Abomination as you can get without actually being one. And no, Sasuke wouldn't stand a chance against Vitiate since he's 4-B while Sasuke is 5-B
And yeah, Revan actually did come close to beating Vitiate. Scourge just betrays him before anything can happen.
Revan is comparable to Vitiate, he's just inferior.
Actually, it isn't. Revan remembers his time before his memory loss, considering he reflects on it before fighting the Imperial team in SWTOR
4- so, by killer bee, who has just as much exp as revan btw in this case, destroyed sasuke, since he above him in every single possible way except wits, and since sasuke could actually hold his own against someone that much above him, thats already enough reason for me to back sasuke. same applies to madara, but even better this time around. naruto was holding back in the final fight, so yet again, he fought someone stronger than him, and his fight against kabuto is the opposite of fair lol kabuto had the whole thing planned out. he only lost due to a jutsu that almost nobody knew existed, and if used by a living person, they wouldve blind anyhow, so yes, yet again, sasuke could hold his own agaisnt very bad odds. good enough reason for him to not have any problem with revan's supirior exp, which doesnt apply here, cuz memory loss.
Killer B's experience isn't comparable to Revan's. He spends most of his time rapping lol.
None of anything you just said changes that Sasuke lost against characters who weren't that far above him. Madara wasn't 5-B to his 6-A, same with ther others.
And actually, Kabuto is a point against him. Malak planned the fight out as well and Revan outplayed him despite it.
5- him mastering all of them is really not impressive btw. the grand inquisitor also did that shit, and the guy lost to someone weaker than ventress. another example is how dooku only used one style at a time, but was so good with it, that he could his own and beat master of all other styles. that is true skill. not what revan has. sasuke has true skill in fighting. and for one, sasuke can also copy anything physical that revan does. no close quarters fight will result in revan as the winner. sasuke is above him in everything. maybe a sword fight could be close, but anything else, revan loses.
Dude, the Grand Inquisitor A) Is not canon to Legends, and B) Didn't master anything. He was a mid-tier at best. Palpatine wouldn't have let him become a true master, as that wasn't his purpose.
And Dooku didn't just know 1 style. He taught people in Ataru, Jar'kai, soresu, etc. Makashi was just his favorite.
Sasuke can't copy his force abilities, and while he can copy physical techniques, he wouldn't understand the meaning of them because he doesn't have precog
"Sasuke is above him in everything": Except precognition, possibly energy absorption, telekinesis, versatility, and defense bypassing, among other things
6- nice. u just named about all the powers that sasuke also has lol thanks. as for abilities that would work on sasuke and be actually dangerous, drain is the only one i can think of. nothing else that jedi revan has will actually work well on sasuke, since he can either counter it, take advantage of it, and or just escape it. like, even the insanity thing, which is a good point, is something that all chakra users can pull off by giving off killing intent. kakashi almost made sasuke kill himself and his killing intent was focused on zabuza lol if feels like going full killer mode, revan will also have psychological problems.
Is this a joke? Revan's mind survived being ravaged by someone who can mind-control planets passively. Something that made a kid almost kill himself isn't going to do anything to Revan. He's also seen FAR more war, death and destruction in both the Mandalorian and Malak-Era war than Sasuke is ever going to see in his life. Revan would think "that's cute" in all honesty.
How is Sasuke going to counter, evade or take advantage of
-Revan crushing his heart or ripping his eyes out. Revan doesn't even need eyes to fight at all (see Dooku)
-Revan poisoning or causing disease in his body, the same thing that crippled Itachi and Orochimaru. Sasuke being Six Paths doesn't matter since he's susceptible to age, which logically means he is susceptible to those things, even if his excellent health would lessen the effects.
-Revan causing spasms in his lungs
-Revan interrupting his jutsu via precog and TK, or stopping his fireball jutsu and reflecting it
-Revan nuking him with a force storm that he can stop at any time
-Revan choking him behind the Susanoo
-Revan just cutting him in half with his lightsaber, which again, can cut 4-B characters
-If they are fatigued, Revan taking 2 seconds to heal himself
7- how would revan figure that out?? thats head canon my dude. he would likely first have to figure out which sasuke is the real sasuke, while triying to put out or escape amaterasu, while not triyng to be eletrocuted alive. as per the vader thing, he is known to be the one user of the no-gesture shit, so i wouldnt see revan doing it as well as vader, but can revan pull it off quickly and effiently? for sure. 100%. can sasuke do the same, but possibly even better, based on what we have seen? just as sure.
He can see with more than his eyes and precog shows him how attacks happen. Anyone could pick up on Sasuke's eyes being wide open or bleeding from his attacks, or just glowing, changing, etc whenever he does something. The force is not so telegraphed.
He can find out which Sasuke is the real Sasuke with Force Wave, hitting targets omnidirectionally and poofing all but the real Sasuke. As for how he would countter those things, Revan can just wave amaterasu and electricity back at him with tutaminis like this
Revan can do it since he's >= Vader as per this wiki
And no, that's not how this works. Sasuke can't do jutsu without hand gestures, and nobody in Naruto does so to my knowledge, save certain powers that aren't jutsu at all.
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Bruce out here making my arguments for me lol
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It's not a stomp, but Revan does win damn near 10/10.Wokistan said:
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Most of this wiki thinks Revan > Vader for some reason, but actually, Vader has better feats than this version of Revan, although Revan has more versatility with the force. It'd be a decent fight either way
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If the match is fair then yeah, Bruce took this apart quiet nicely.
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TL;DR, Sasuke can give Revan a fight, but he has little to no chance of winning.
Since I haven't done so, voting Revan
Since I haven't done so, voting Revan
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Reven FRA.
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@woki i place vader higher than this revan in every single concievable way except wits, so no, i think this is more fair, tbh, but opinions and butts, each person has their own. anyhow
@bruce, u either misinterpreted a lot of what i said, or u are doing it on purpose, but whatevs. lets go at it again. ps ur arguements are way better now than before.
1- my main aurguement here, against most of ur points may seem dumb, but its completly useful in this case, regardless of what u think of it, but ill use it anyways. almost every single one his abilities requires his will and concentration, and arent actually active, but mostly passive, so my point of sasuke spammin attacks is much more effective than it seems. i know revan has a battle field type precog, but just like any other of his techniques, it requires concnretation, and even with that, it doenst mean he will know how to counter it in the first place. aka so long as sasuke is vaired on both defense and offense, he can kill revan by literally waiting for a mistake/mistep to happen, which is hard to happen for sauske, since he uses jutsu, which are one and done, and stay there, no attention needed. attention is everything in a fight. if its misplaced, the fight is lost, and as far as using tricks to win a fight goes, sasuke has this in the bag per feats. revan has that problem in large, while sasuke can actually use that to his advantage. and u asked how can he counter those attacks sent by revan? for one sasuke wont actually need ameno (better than his other haxes, but more chakra taxing) if we say they are both at their optimal mental peak (aka best of ther mental abilities), since he can solve said problems/attacks by either using clones, a barrier of counter, and basic counter, or subs jutsu. like i said, the ones that are dangerous are mostly drain and fear induce thingy. plus, sasuke is actually semi immune to most poisons, thanks to orochimaru and kabuto, hence why sakura literally had to make a poison even stronger than the used by sasori to kill sasuke in the kage summit arc, which btw, we still dont know if it would work...
2- i have no idea what u trying to say here, but ill repeat myself more clearly now: u cannot compare skill among the two verses since they use different techniques. obi wan is much better at swordfighting than even madara and sasuke, but in any other type of fight, most ninja would actually whoop his ass. even the fodder ones. im not including force obviously, im only including fighting skill.
3- killer fought in a world war from ages 8 through semi adulthood. he is also biologically as old as revan, and has been trained just as longer, alonside random missios he did before retiring. if anything, they are comparable. and thing about malak and kabuto making plains against their enemies is that kabuto is a ******* genius ass assassin who knew everything about his opponents, and who had abilities they had never even seen, while malak has been malak, and kept being malak the whole time. he got a boost in power. period. maybe he learned an ability or two, but comparing a trap made by malak to one made by kabuto is seriously hilarious.
4- lol just noticed i skipped something hahaha. well, yet again, misinterpreting is it hand. madara is no other strong guy. i compared him to vitiate to give u an example of revan fighting vitiate. madara is by far the most beastly guy in the show, having no actual exploitable weakenesses as well as being more advanced than sasuke in all comparable ways, but sasuke still stood his ground, and almost killed him. that puts revan almost beating vitiate as nothing more than a fight among two really strong people.
5- doesnt matter. im saying he mastered him but it still made no difference, since he cant use it like a real mosnter like dooku can. and yes, he did master them. look it up. i didnt say dooku only mastered only one, i said he used only 1. big diff. and how can sauske not understand physical techniques? holy shit man, head canon is tough around these parts. and yes, sasuke is above revan in all martial based catagories. which is obviously what i was talking about, but whatever.
6- revan thinking whether its cute or not isnt up to u. its up to the fact that people can go crazy from it, just like u said his fear inducing shit can do. u think sasuke is actually afraid of something lol? like, the guy thought he could shit on madara and kurama, after seeing both of their powers lol fear/mental based abiltiies aint doing shit to a guy who tried to kill all the 5 kage at the same time. as for the rest, i explained above how i think sasuek can deal with his techniques.
7- no, precog is precog. it just tell its gonna happen, nothing more. u wanna tell me that his precog will help him explain how fire just suaddenly appeared on his face? and he isnt poofing anything here, so long as he doesnt stomp, ap wise. no jutsu can be done without hand gestures? damn. chidori called, he wants to have talk. anyways, imma be out until tomorrow, so answer when u can, and ill reply when i can
@bruce, u either misinterpreted a lot of what i said, or u are doing it on purpose, but whatevs. lets go at it again. ps ur arguements are way better now than before.
1- my main aurguement here, against most of ur points may seem dumb, but its completly useful in this case, regardless of what u think of it, but ill use it anyways. almost every single one his abilities requires his will and concentration, and arent actually active, but mostly passive, so my point of sasuke spammin attacks is much more effective than it seems. i know revan has a battle field type precog, but just like any other of his techniques, it requires concnretation, and even with that, it doenst mean he will know how to counter it in the first place. aka so long as sasuke is vaired on both defense and offense, he can kill revan by literally waiting for a mistake/mistep to happen, which is hard to happen for sauske, since he uses jutsu, which are one and done, and stay there, no attention needed. attention is everything in a fight. if its misplaced, the fight is lost, and as far as using tricks to win a fight goes, sasuke has this in the bag per feats. revan has that problem in large, while sasuke can actually use that to his advantage. and u asked how can he counter those attacks sent by revan? for one sasuke wont actually need ameno (better than his other haxes, but more chakra taxing) if we say they are both at their optimal mental peak (aka best of ther mental abilities), since he can solve said problems/attacks by either using clones, a barrier of counter, and basic counter, or subs jutsu. like i said, the ones that are dangerous are mostly drain and fear induce thingy. plus, sasuke is actually semi immune to most poisons, thanks to orochimaru and kabuto, hence why sakura literally had to make a poison even stronger than the used by sasori to kill sasuke in the kage summit arc, which btw, we still dont know if it would work...
2- i have no idea what u trying to say here, but ill repeat myself more clearly now: u cannot compare skill among the two verses since they use different techniques. obi wan is much better at swordfighting than even madara and sasuke, but in any other type of fight, most ninja would actually whoop his ass. even the fodder ones. im not including force obviously, im only including fighting skill.
3- killer fought in a world war from ages 8 through semi adulthood. he is also biologically as old as revan, and has been trained just as longer, alonside random missios he did before retiring. if anything, they are comparable. and thing about malak and kabuto making plains against their enemies is that kabuto is a ******* genius ass assassin who knew everything about his opponents, and who had abilities they had never even seen, while malak has been malak, and kept being malak the whole time. he got a boost in power. period. maybe he learned an ability or two, but comparing a trap made by malak to one made by kabuto is seriously hilarious.
4- lol just noticed i skipped something hahaha. well, yet again, misinterpreting is it hand. madara is no other strong guy. i compared him to vitiate to give u an example of revan fighting vitiate. madara is by far the most beastly guy in the show, having no actual exploitable weakenesses as well as being more advanced than sasuke in all comparable ways, but sasuke still stood his ground, and almost killed him. that puts revan almost beating vitiate as nothing more than a fight among two really strong people.
5- doesnt matter. im saying he mastered him but it still made no difference, since he cant use it like a real mosnter like dooku can. and yes, he did master them. look it up. i didnt say dooku only mastered only one, i said he used only 1. big diff. and how can sauske not understand physical techniques? holy shit man, head canon is tough around these parts. and yes, sasuke is above revan in all martial based catagories. which is obviously what i was talking about, but whatever.
6- revan thinking whether its cute or not isnt up to u. its up to the fact that people can go crazy from it, just like u said his fear inducing shit can do. u think sasuke is actually afraid of something lol? like, the guy thought he could shit on madara and kurama, after seeing both of their powers lol fear/mental based abiltiies aint doing shit to a guy who tried to kill all the 5 kage at the same time. as for the rest, i explained above how i think sasuek can deal with his techniques.
7- no, precog is precog. it just tell its gonna happen, nothing more. u wanna tell me that his precog will help him explain how fire just suaddenly appeared on his face? and he isnt poofing anything here, so long as he doesnt stomp, ap wise. no jutsu can be done without hand gestures? damn. chidori called, he wants to have talk. anyways, imma be out until tomorrow, so answer when u can, and ill reply when i can
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yes, quite horrible. u shoudlnt read it, then.
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I like how his argument against being mind screwed into being afraid is "he wasn't scared of these guys"
Yeah ok, try telling that to some other notable fear hax users coughmethuselahcough, see if it stands up as an argument.
Yeah ok, try telling that to some other notable fear hax users coughmethuselahcough, see if it stands up as an argument.
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ever heard of will of the author? it happens when somethin is very weird mid verse just cuz the author wants it to happen. aka anakin vs kenobi
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