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Retiring from Staff

Deagonx

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As some have probably noticed, I am really not active on the forums anymore. My interest in the forums has declined a lot since last year and I think the right thing to do now is to retire.

Candidly, I think I was always a bit of an outlier in the battleboarding community. A big part of what drove me to participate as much as I did, which ultimately led to me becoming a staff member, was my sense of frustration with what I viewed as a culture of outrageous upgrades and profiles that were unrecognizable in comparison to the portrayals of the characters I loved. I saw a lot of value in trying to course-correct, and bring things back down to earth so that people who came to the wiki could explore the power levels of the character instead of some kind of absurdist caricature where a villain that routinely throws cars at his enemies is -- in fact -- said to be capable of destroying transfinite universes. Part of my decline in interest was the realization that this was -- as Fuji once put it -- a kind of Sisyphean effort that places me squarely at odds with the majority of our members, which ultimately led to a great deal of harassment, drama, doxxing, and grief on my part. I think ultimately I just realized I want to spend my time differently.

I had a lot of fun and made a lot of really good friends here, and was happy to work alongside and get to know so many smart, interesting, and thoughtful people. Even when we did not always agree, it was fun to explore different perspectives on abilities and power levels of characters and cosmologies and what not. I will look back on my time here fondly, I especially want to mention @Mr. Bambu, @GrathOfLux, @Agnaa, @Ultima_Reality, @Firestorm808, @Crabwhale, @Maverick_Zero_X, and @DontTalkDT. I had a lot of fun getting to know you all, and you're part of what made my time here really memorable. There are many others, of course, too many to name here. I'd also be remiss if I didn't mention our Head Bureaucrat @Antvasima. You are really the one that keeps the trains running here and I wanted to let you know how appreciated it is.

So I suppose that's it for me. I can't rule out ever coming back, but I'd rather say a proper goodbye now than just sort of fade into the ether. Take care, everyone, and remember that this is all just for fun. Thanks for trusting me to be a moderator, hope I did a good job.
 
Goodbye and please try to take good care of yourself.

Massive thanks for all of your very helpful work here, and you are always welcome back to our community and your staff position here if you should wish so. 🙏❤️💖

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(I think that Impress has a longterm project to adjust Marvel Comics and maybe DC Comics characters to much more reasonable levels though, so maybe you would be interested in helping her out with that before you leave?)
 
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While it is sad to see you leave, it's fully understandable why. I wish you the best of luck with your future endeavors. As a last message think the best thing to mention is that your CRTs to keep verses under control, as well as the ones with Fuji, was the main thing that motivated me to actually come on this site and do my part.

PS - If you ever feel like your drive for scaling ever is relit, we would be more than happy to welcome you back with open arms.

I guess that's it... Goodbye.
 
There are times that I cannot see eye to eye with you when it comes to certain things in verses and such.
There are also times when you express the same idea and opinion I have about things with resounding clarity.
I can respect that you are a reasonable and wise person when it comes to evaluating, and you may have a better view when it comes to blind spots in logic and such.

But whatever the case, I also see how vigorous you are when it comes to topics you are interested in and adamant about what you perceive it correct and accurate for certain verses.

I wouldn't go and say you inspire me or anything, but I would admit you influenced me regarding how I should approach certain discussions I'm passionate about, regardless of opposition. And like you mentioned about your declining activity does make it feel like there is a missing piece in the totality of Moderators and staff that is usually present in CRTs, which I find as something that you do provide. Whether that is a necessary scrutiny or a counterforce to it. I believe you somehow shaped a bit of the wiki with how present you are when it comes to certain topics in the Staff threads and Content Revisions

Either way, this is all my opinion of you, and they are, for the most part, positive despite my not being in line with some of your opinions on certain content revisions.

Hope life finds you well and continues to be better in your future endeavors or plans in life.
Thanks for your contributions and help towards the wiki, regardless of the opposition and harassment.

Take care, Deagon, I will miss your hot takes in CRTs👋
 
I saw a lot of value in trying to course-correct, and bring things back down to earth so that people who came to the wiki could explore the power levels of the character instead of some kind of absurdist caricature where a villain that routinely throws cars at his enemies is -- in fact -- said to be capable of destroying transfinite universes.

So true….

Anyway, it’s sad to see you go, but I wish you the best.
 
Take care, while I will note that while like many others, my thoughts on you in terms of sense of judgement can get very mixed; I will focus on the positives. I do think you were the most level headed, rational, and reasonable debater when it came to indexing the heralds of DC Comics. And that Marvel scaling takes were also something I considered you quite well versed in; but I do not blame you for leaving. And I kind of saw it coming. Thank you very much for being here and the time you had and be safe with your life ahead.

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It has always struck me as sort of melancholic that the hollow Like system we have in place results in a user's most popular post being the one in which they leave.

The wiki is a cruel place. The Sisyphean task labors onwards. Someone will be here even if we aren't. I wish you the best in life- and I am glad that you're free.

Godspeed.
 
It has always struck me as sort of melancholic that the hollow Like system we have in place results in a user's most popular post being the one in which they leave.
You don't appreciate what you have until it's gone.


Forgive me if I ramble here, but it's my nature as a poet to lose myself in my thoughts, especially when the subject is so bittersweet.

The system places perhaps unfair emphasis on structure in a genre which definitely relies more of vibes.
I've always put a little more weight on narrative intent, and I think you did too, Deagonx.

Your grounded approach was definitely refreshing to me, personally, and definitely more in line of what I wish the wiki was.

In a literal sense, we exist more as a "What if this character was reduced to just the most mathematically impressive thing they've ever been portrayed doing, whether intended or not?" rather than a complete analysis of what a character's abilities actually are as regularly portrayed. We have systems in place allegedly meant to address this (outliers, PIS), but they're rarely used.

Still, I can't change that system from the outside, and there's a lot of organizational things which I still want to fix, so while I've taken breaks, I've never outright quit.
Before I got my grubby hands on them, the Site Rules were a giant wall of text in no particular order that made me want to gouge my eyes out. Now every time I look at them, or someone brings up by name one of the sections I designed, it gives me a spark of pride, and inspires hope that I can make a real difference if I'm just determined enough. Like part of me is part of this website.

Ironically, though, I feel like I made the most impactful changes before I was a staff member. Even if my threads were controversial, I felt like I actually had everyone talking, thinking critically about the foundations. I sat down and wasn't afraid to debate back-and-forth with the very people who designed the system. Now I feel some sense of loyalty to the existing system, some latent fear that if I challenge it too hard I'll lose some sense of respect from my peers.

Was it just a youthful ego that empowered me so? Because I was 18 and enrolling in college and everyone had told me I was a 'gifted student'?
Or was it the opposite? Was I just so insecure that I felt like I had to prove something?

I don't know for sure, but I know I'm still determined. I feel a growing confidence drowning out the doubt.

One day, I plan on this wiki being something worth you returning to.
Maybe I'll fail at that. Maybe I'll succeed.

Either way, I want to try.

Whether you knew it or not, you're one of the people who inspire me.
So I bid you farewell, but I do hope you'll stop by sometimes and see how well I'm keeping my word.
 
In a literal sense, we exist more as a "What if this character was reduced to just the most mathematically impressive thing they've ever been portrayed doing, whether intended or not?" rather than a complete analysis of what a character's abilities actually are as regularly portrayed. We have systems in place allegedly meant to address this (outliers, PIS), but they're rarely used.
Preach.
 
Man, I really liked you, this is not a secret, and that is due to your grounded views, and we have very few of those. We rarely disagreed on matters of powerscaling, and I wish the wiki had a lot more people like you. Your views were really refreshing, they had nothing to do with what will make the characters the strongest, but rather what the characters were portrayed to be and what is accurate. Wishing you the best
 
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It's always sad to see someone go. Regardless of if your particular view's didn't align with others, you were still part of the community. You were still known well for your interactions with others, even by people you may not ever have the privilege of meeting.
I don't know if the impact you've had on the wiki is anything like that dream you had, of a wiki with lower character stats all around. But your impact was still tangible, still there, still something to be remembered by others.
I think that means something- And hopefully, it can mean something to you too.
Take care, and good luck in your future endeavors.
 
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No matter the differences we occasionally had (particularly regarding Dragon Ball), I could never deny that you were one of the most reliable staff members around. People with your approach to power scaling will always be important, and you were perhaps the best person I knew when it came to balancing extreme reluctance towards high tiers with reasonable concessions. As life gets in the way, I wish you good luck from here on out.

Goodbye, 2023's most-liked Thread Moderator. Throughout threads and posts, you alone were always the sentient one. And dare I say, the based one.
 
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