Request: Make beyonder in his realm "Possibly 1-A"

[Sera_EX]

Don't worry Quantu, yes we have reached an agreement, but we should wait for Matthew Schroeder to give his last input. He's likely the one doing the revision at the end of the day anyhoo.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Wait, Beyonder being High 1-B straight up was accepted?

So yeah, we can place Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Molecule-Man at straight up High 1-B.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose so, yes. It does not make much sense for him to suddenly get unfathomably weaker, and the rating is based on loose speculation.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I will take the liberty to edit the profiles, okay?

 

[Antvasima]

That would be appreciated, yes.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I'm actually speed-reading through Secret Wars II in search of HD Scans right now.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I'm shocked how it seems to be 90% composed exclusively of The Beyonder faffing about being a vain idiot.

 

[Antvasima]

Yup. It is a rather overrated character.

 

[Quantu]

We're making molecule man high 1-B too? Ok

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Okay, having read it all and most of the Tie-Ins, here's what I have that's relevant:

• The Beyonder is Infinite-Dimensional .
• The Beyonder and the Beyond-Realm are one and the same .
• He is everything that ever was, is or will be in his realm .
• As explained by the author, the Beyond-Realm is another Multiverse, albeit one greater in scope.
• Our Multiverse is many-layered, composed of endless dimensions.
• His power is described as "Equal to all other energy in existence times a thousand".
• As well as being millions of times greater than the rest of the multiverse combined.
• He is bigger than the multiverse, and more powerful than all of its forces combined .
• Except for Molecule-Man, who is his equal, and the two clash in combat nearly destroying existence .

He also has a bazillion statements of his Omnipotence and his Omniscience that are only surpassed by the number of times he demonstrates a lack of both.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. I was previously aware of all of those instances. Feel free to adjust his profile to straight High 1-B if you wish.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Beyonder_(Pre-Retcon)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Molecule_Ma

 

[Naitez]

Too bad the Living Tribunal and the other cosmic entities don't scale to pre-retcon Beyonder.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, after the retcon he was far less impressive.

 

[Antvasima]

@Matthew Thank you for the help. I adjusted the two profile pages somewhat.

 

[Quantu]

Hey guys honest question: is there a feat that The Presence has that puts him over the beyonder in his realm? Genuine question

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It's called Mother Night , Lucifer Morningstar , The Endless.

DC actually uses dimensions and Dimensionless Voids every so often.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Anyway, the thread has concluded.