Ren Fuji vs Homura Akemi

[Monarch_Laciel]

Drives him to suicide iirc.

"Corrupts the enemy's mind into absolute despair and allows the witch to control them"

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

that's akin to mind manipulation ren has resistence idk how big maybe comparable to the LDO who managed to shrugs Meth's VERY passive mind manipulation

 

[Kaltias]

I mean, this is the same Homura that mindfucked a 2-A five minutes later

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

wait she used that skill as her tier 7 version on a 2-A and it worked?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

^

Edit: so close and yet so far...

 

[Kaltias]

She was still normal Homura when she took the part of her memories (although she did mindscrewed her again as Akuma Homura later)

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

She was also casually and unconsciously mind haxing other magical girls, who can normally resist the Witch's Kiss, and even a super weakened witch's kiss can control hundreds of people and drive them all to complete despair and suicide.

 

[Kaltias]

Spoiler for Wraith Arc


She also manipulated Mami's memories without using Witch Kiss in her magical girl form which is>>>>>>>>>>Homulilly

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

well i could have argued meth's mind f*ck is big bang till 1939 times decillion resets but LOL when it affects 2-A

 

[Peter1129]

Homura for reasons above.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Technically speaking, Meth's mind hax would probably only be 4 billion years or less each reset, seeing as until that point life wasn't actually sentient enough to be afraid of anything, let alone the dark

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

idk yet it seems to be primodial kind of fear and i mean times plus idk but like i said no point if the hax can affect 2-A and 7-0 wow never thought i see the day masada got clean sheet lmao (time to unequalize speed *shot*)

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

There's still decillions of resets. Thats still 4 billion X y-decillion "fear"

But primordial fear means nothing when there is nothing to feel that fear, and sentient life only developed about 4 billion years ago. and even then it might not have been sentient enough to feel fear. So its not 13 billoin X Decillion years woth of fear, it's "only" >4 X decillion years worth of fear

 

[Kaltias]

Still pretty much the strongest mindfuck that doesn't affect higher dimensional characters, I think that we can all agree on that account

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

well...that's more to humans right? Idk never really played ikabey just going from what i read in page idk if it even matters if its human imho it implies that other being felt fear to darkness but again take this with a grain of salt

Edit: At this point we don't really need to argue for meth because he never affected 2-As and stuff (what about i unequalized speed OVO *shot*)

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

@Kal Yeah, agreed

@Redgrave, there might be some alien species out there in the vastness of space that evolved before us and added to the fear, but we can't say for sure. 4 billion years is just the evolution of sentient life on earth.

 

[Kaltias]

That daily reminder that alien witches are a thing

 

[FateAlbane]

So as it turns out Homura has the most potent 3D Mind/Memory hax?

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

is that passive no?

 

[Kaltias]

Best, probably no because there are a people who can control the mind far better than she does, and even then people like Meth do it just by being there.

Stronger, maybe? Wouldn't be surprised if someone out there had legit showings of midscrewing a tier 1

@Red

It isn't passive iirc, but she did use it against all the other MG immediately

 

[FateAlbane]

I changed my wording to "most potent" and ninja'd you two as a result.

 

[FateAlbane]

Well, give my vote to Homu Homu anyways for these reasons, mainly the crazy mindhax.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

8-0 already can be added ya know LOL

 

[Kaltias]

Ninja + Homura = This Homura

 

[Kaltias]

Uh, actually it's already added. Closing then