Ren Amamiya vs Soma Cruz

[Bware1]

"Before that happens, we will take this country!"


"I finally understand everything...I am Dracula"

Rules: Both Combatants at Low 2-C
Speed is Equalized

Who Wins and Why?

Re:

Soma:

Inconclusive:

Stomp:

(Note: Joker does have access to Satanael but can be restricted if necessary, also Omnipotent Orb is banned; Soma starts in his base form from D.O.S, but can change to the Dark Lord if necessary)

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

What does Soma start with?

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Good question.

 

[Bware1]

I don't think Soma has a go to opening move, per say but if we go by his match against Kratos then it might be sealing

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

What's Soma's resistance to fear/death hax?

 

[Bware1]

Soma resist the effects of Dracula's Castle. However considering the effects become stronger with every ressurection and the Soma Cruz era takes place at the very end of the Castlevania timeline, it should already be very potent, but even more so when Soma defeated the very source of his former self's power, that being the Chaos entity itself which should be far greater then Dracula's Castle ever was, and all of that was just in Aria of Sorrow. All of Soma's haxes and resistances grow even further by the conclusion of Dawn of Sorrow.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

What's the scaling chain for Soma? Ren is extremely high in his scaling chain, especially if he has access to Satanael.

 

[Bware1]

Zephyro's Scaling Chain for it went like this

Dark Lord Soma >>> Soma (DoS) > Menace > Dario fused with Aguni > Dimitri/Dario > Soma (AoS) > Chaos > Dracula (1999) >= Julius = Alucard (1999) => Alucard (SoTN) > True Form Dracula (SoTN) > Dracula (SoTN) > Galamoth >>>>> Shaft (Feat above Baseline) > Richter being controlled by Shaft > Richter Belmont > Dracula (RoB) > Leon Belmont > Dracula (LoM) >>> Death (LoM) > Time Reaper => Low 2-C


The thing is this scaling chain disregards alot of Castlevania's signature characters such as Trevor (Dracula's Curse & Curse of Darkness), Hector, Simon (Castlevania's 1 and 2), Juste, John Morris & Eric Lecard, Jonathan Morris and Charlotte Aulin, Shanoa, Albus, Barlowe, Maria (SOTN), Grant, Sypha and other characters not to mention every incarnation of Dracula from the games. So in reality Soma's scaling chain is alot bigger then this.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

As the guy said, the powers he resist grow stronger at every ressurection, with Soma resisting them at their strongest, so probably up to 10+ times above baseline. Also worth noting that he resists conceptual death hax.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Ren's scaling chain is currently a work in progress, but his mindhax should be comparable to Yaldabaoth, who mindhaxed everyone on Earth.

 

[00potato]

Why does it scale to Yaldy?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Sol has the reasons, I'll have to ask him later. But I do know for sure Ren resists it.

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

What's the extent of his concept hax?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Being able to kill someone who was linked to the minds of everyone on the planet.

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

What's the extent of Soma's?

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Soma's is from the Power of Dominance, which let's him erase someone on a conceptual level (though he can only use this after killing someone while outside his Dark Lord form).

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Ren resists concept manip, which is far above baseline.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Soma's is type 2, so Ren isn't resisting it.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Actually, Yald's concept manip is becoming type 2. A lot of characters are getting type 2, however only a set few will use it offensively. However, it is gonna be resisted.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

I mean, that's not on the profile yet, so it's gotta wait until after the CRT.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Of course.

 

[Bware1]

Bump

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Match has to be stopped until we finish Ren's scaling chain.

 

[Bware1]

Alright then

 

[Sonicflare9]

bump

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Ren stomps.