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He could have spoken it fast or spoke it slowly
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Not at all. We have little indication over how much time it took for the black to be pulled and how much of a break there was between the two sentences. Assuming that they happened over a span of one second is ludicrous.AnonymousBlank said:
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So Yhwach just stood there and waited like a gent because?????
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Ichibei and Yhwach have blackness on them don't they? How do we know the blackness of Ichimonji didn't come from them? Or from any other off-screen source of black? Or hell, maybe it just came from the sword itself?
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I never said it took 5 minutes, but the notion that it took 1 second is ridiculous. Something like 10 - 20 is believable low-end, however.
It is still completely unquantifiable, however, as nothing has proven the distance as being accurate.
It is still completely unquantifiable, however, as nothing has proven the distance as being accurate.
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The manga tells you "Then the ink on the ground of Soul Society physically travelled up to the Soul King's palace in 1 second"?Danny1112 said:
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Uh no it wasn't
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I think '''everyone''' is using absurd assumptions at this point.
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No it's not provided, Danny. Again:
Also:Matthew Schroeder said:
Please directly address these questions and provide conclusive, definitive answers rather than just responding with the same statement of "It just is".Damage3245 said:
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Again Shikai activates literally instantly every time it is used so you arguing that it took longer is baseless,the only requirement is activation.
"We don't know if it came from the random panel it showed us of black being drained" this is essentially what your saying Damage,Occams Razor shows us that the panel was put there to show us where the darkness is coming from,and you know what happens literally in the next chapter..they show us him pulling darkness again and they show us another shot of soul society and darkness being drained lol..
"We don't know if it came from the random panel it showed us of black being drained" this is essentially what your saying Damage,Occams Razor shows us that the panel was put there to show us where the darkness is coming from,and you know what happens literally in the next chapter..they show us him pulling darkness again and they show us another shot of soul society and darkness being drained lol..
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Given that Ichibei can paint huge symbols using the brush without any giant pots of ink around, it is pretty clear that Ichimonji itself can create the darkness/ink.
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No,it was only one ink he called,his powers doesn't doesn't work like that,he chooses the ink in which wishes to use,and that's the one that was shown in a scene, so saying it came from anywhere is straight up assumption as there wouldn't have been a reason for that scene.1997KD said:
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Maybe
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This is my same thought process. Nobody has proven the distance assumption so the calc is wrong.Damage3245 said:
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The reason for that scene is to show the range of his ability as he explains later; from the moment he activated his Shikai, all of the Black in the world was under his control.Danny1112 said:
It doesn't prove he physically transported that bit of darkness up to the Soul King's palace.
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He clearly needs to resupply Damage,he even did it for his Existence erasure technique where he pooled darkness from the future of soul society equivalent to 100 nights,and we see it pooling around him so saying he doesn't collect them is once again baseless and not what we're seeing.
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It is baseless the arguments you guys give don't prove anything nor are they well constructed. You just go "It is what we are seeing".
Uh, no it isn't. You are making leaps of logic which will make the feat more impressive and going with it because you want it to be higher.
Uh, no it isn't. You are making leaps of logic which will make the feat more impressive and going with it because you want it to be higher.
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Why would he teleport one piece of black when every other time it is clearly seen being pulled from everything else and moving to him through the air?
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Ichibei generating ink isn't a headcanon, it's literally his power lol.
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Rest in Pepperoni.Damage3245 said:
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Why Pepperoni of all things ?
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Because it's better than this thread.
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Not in the mood right now so for now i'll say 2 things.
1.) For those who argue about how much time has passed, there is a way to get a reasonable timeframe out of those panels as long as there were words said. You can this site called Read-o-Meter. Just plug in the words/sentences and it'll give you an average timeframe of how it took to say them. Might not be perfect but its something useful. Whether this changes anything on it being an outlier or not isnt up to me though.
2.) Im getting really sick of the Naruto and Bleach comparisons everytime a Bleach CRT happens in all honesty. This doesnt even happen in the reverse for Naruto, just bleach. When Naruto's feats are discussed, they're discussed using reasons that have nothing to do with Bleach. But whenever it's bleach, Naruto comparisons become the main bread and butter. That needs to stop. I honestly think some kind of discussion rule for this needs to happen.
1.) For those who argue about how much time has passed, there is a way to get a reasonable timeframe out of those panels as long as there were words said. You can this site called Read-o-Meter. Just plug in the words/sentences and it'll give you an average timeframe of how it took to say them. Might not be perfect but its something useful. Whether this changes anything on it being an outlier or not isnt up to me though.
2.) Im getting really sick of the Naruto and Bleach comparisons everytime a Bleach CRT happens in all honesty. This doesnt even happen in the reverse for Naruto, just bleach. When Naruto's feats are discussed, they're discussed using reasons that have nothing to do with Bleach. But whenever it's bleach, Naruto comparisons become the main bread and butter. That needs to stop. I honestly think some kind of discussion rule for this needs to happen.
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Matthew Schroeder your the only one making leaps of logic here to support your argument,I'm using the material given to me and what your using is well head canon,and from what I see here you also have a problem with the distance between the realms so go make a CRT about that.
Now explain to me using the source material,how it's lying about what's happening on panel (care to remember they're also in combat and not standing around aimlessly).
Now explain to me using the source material,how it's lying about what's happening on panel (care to remember they're also in combat and not standing around aimlessly).
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The reason why it is being extracted is simply because that is the visual effect of his Shikai.
You don't think Urahara or anyone else - or Yhwach - would have noticed all of the blackness coming off of them as seen in the above page? The reason they don't notice it is because it literally isn't ink flowing from their bodies. It's just visually representing his control over all Black in the world.
You don't think Urahara or anyone else - or Yhwach - would have noticed all of the blackness coming off of them as seen in the above page? The reason they don't notice it is because it literally isn't ink flowing from their bodies. It's just visually representing his control over all Black in the world.
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I agree with Kukui, this habit of random Bleach fans frankly, whining about Naruto in threads has to stop. Secondly, this is like the sixth Sub-Rel Bleach thread and they are all the same.
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Matt, it goes both ways. Stop acting like Naruto fans don't do the same thing.Matthew Schroeder said:
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The reasoning for them not seeing it or seeing it is unknown,it could very well he invisible for all we know,he collects all of black and the absent of color is white,I'm pretty Yhwach would be white if all was collect from him.
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