Regarding the current standing of JJBA's stand speeds.

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

(and homing)

That's the important part. The fact the bullet can basically dodge mid-air and do so fast enough to still make its way to Polnareff unhindered.

 

[Tivanenk]

On that note, add Bad Company, Aerosmith, and Ringo Roadagain to the bullet list.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

On that note, add Bad Company, Aerosmith, and Ringo Roadagain to the bullet list.

Yeah. Obviously none of whom have scaling to Silver Chariot or things comparable to Silver Chariot, whatsoever.

 

[Tivanenk]

On that note, add Bad Company, Aerosmith, and Ringo Roadagain to the bullet list.

Yeah. Obviously none of whom have scaling to Silver Chariot or things comparable to Silver Chariot, whatsoever.

Well, it's just to show that other parts have B tiers and such in other parts are tagged by bullets, so the speed tier scaling isn't reliable.

Honestly, I think Stardust Crusaders is the strongest of all JOJO stories.

 

[Eldritch_abomination]

which stands should be scaled to silver chariot accordingly?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Honestly, I think Stardust Crusaders is the strongest of all JOJO stories.

I'd say it's probably the strongest overall (as in, most Stand users in SC could defeat most Stand users not from SC), but stuff like Part V, VI, and VII seem to have stronger god-tier Stands.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

which stands should be scaled to silver chariot accordingly?

I think MOST of them are already changed, but I believe it would be Star Platinum, The World, Magician's Red, Hierophant Green (I think?), Cream, Anubis, Crazy Diamond, The Hand, The Emperor (direction altering speed, only), Heaven's Door, RHCP, and Killer Queen. For profiles we have, anyway.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

This is gonna leave a lot of unknowns as many profiles are scale based solely on what their speed rank is. I think a speed calc for jolyne reacting to the meteor is gonna be in order for characters from part 6. Just gonna leave a link to the feat here as i am going to bed now http://*********.com/Manga/JoJo-s-B...9--Guard-Westwood-s-Secret-Part-006?id=150422.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

So I think what we're all leaning towards is something along the lines of:

A Stand fights and is comparable to Silver Chariot = scaled to Silver Chariot

A Stand fights and is comparable to Silver Chariot. Something else fights said Stand and is comparable or superior to it = scaled to Silver Chariot

And so on. But...

A Stand with the same speed ranking as something that was comparable to Silver Chariot = not scaled to Silver Chariot, likely unknown unless calcs or a clear speed exists

This seems like a reasonable suggestion. Or at least, until the meteor feat is calculated.

 

[LordAizenSama]

I agree with Azathoth also

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

So I think what we're all leaning towards is something along the lines of:
A Stand fights and is comparable to Silver Chariot = scaled to Silver Chariot

A Stand fights and is comparable to Silver Chariot. Something else fights said Stand and is comparable or superior to it = scaled to Silver Chariot

And so on. But...

A Stand with the same speed ranking as something that was comparable to Silver Chariot = not scaled to Silver Chariot, likely unknown unless calcs or a clear speed exists

Agreed.

 

[LordXcano]

Ya know? Honestly back when the A Rank stands where 76c (or FTL+), it made the scaling of the stands not that probamatic.
Now? *Sigh* Not gonna comment on that...

The stands could be Mach 0.1 and the scaling between A rank and B rank would still be jacked. Higher numbers doesn't make the scaling any more or less consistent.

 

[Tivanenk]

which stands should be scaled to silver chariot accordingly?

I think MOST of them are already changed, but I believe it would be Star Platinum, The World, Magician's Red, Hierophant Green (I think?), Cream, Anubis, Crazy Diamond, The Hand, The Emperor (direction altering speed, only), Heaven's Door, RHCP, and Killer Queen. For profiles we have, anyway.

Sorry, but I disagree with Part 4 stands. Jotaro is noticably weaker in Part 4 than he is in Part 3 (even shown that his time stop doesn't last as long). Joseph was also shown to be much weaker, so it makes sense that Jotaro's speed isn't as good in Part 4 as he is in Part 3.

 

[Der_Purple_Ist_Dank]

Sorry, but I disagree with Part 4 stands. Jotaro is noticably weaker in Part 4 than he is in Part 3 (even shown that his time stop doesn't last as long). Joseph was also shown to be much weaker, so it makes sense that Jotaro's speed isn't as good in Part 4 as he is in Part 3.

The only things that decreased were SP's time stop duration, durability and developmental potential everything else SP retained. Besides while you disagree it seems a lot of others agree that the Part 4 Stands (at least Crazy Diamond, The Hand, and Killer Queen) should scale to Silver Chariot.

I don't see how his time stop being reduced relates to his speed either.

 

[Tivanenk]

Just because Jotaro retained an A in speed doesn't mean anything considering it can range anywhere from SoL to MFTL. It could just be on a lower tier on A in speed. And yes, he was shown to be weaker in both Part 4 and Part 6 when it came to speed. He couldn't redirect Ratt's attacks or Manhatten Transfer (to be precise, he barely redirected every bullet from Manhatten Transfer and Whitesnake easily gibbed him).

 

[Der_Purple_Ist_Dank]

Well now you're making more sense, I see your point now.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Part 4 Stands should be scalable. Jotaro being out of practice and slower does not mean Star Platinum: The World should drop his speed that far down. Part 6 is years and years later, and I agree they shouldn't scale, which is why I didn't mention them, in the first place.

 

[Tivanenk]

Part 4 Stands should be scalable. Jotaro being out of practice and slower does not mean Star Platinum: The World should drop his speed that far down. Part 6 is years and years later, and I agree they shouldn't scale, which is why I didn't mention them, in the first place.

I still don't see why he struggled with Ratt's darts then.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I still don't see why he struggled with Ratt's darts then.

In this case, I'm actually going to say to make the situation more tense. I don't want you to think I'm writing this off simply because I want upgrades, though. It's because it's so much lower than things Jotaro has casually done that it's not even funny. There's no way Star Platinum: The World became so weak and slow that it was slower than Star Platinum at the very beginning of part 3, who could snatch a bullet out of the air inches from Jotaro's head.

 

[Tivanenk]

Well, I definitely agree that Part 6 is much weaker than Part 3, but Part 4 is where we really need to sit down and review all of his feats. He couldn't even dodge Crazy Diamond's punch without his Time Stop and Josuke struggled against Bad Company. Not to mention, how the hell did Josuke not notice the arrow flying into Koichi?

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

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I still don't see why he struggled with Ratt's darts then.
Jotaro had no issue dodging Ratts darts, he just did not realise the rat was going to ricochet them onto him afterwards.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Well, I definitely agree that Part 6 is much weaker than Part 3, but Part 4 is where we really need to sit down and review all of his feats. He couldn't even dodge Crazy Diamond's punch without his Time Stop and Josuke struggled against Bad Company. Not to mention, how the hell did Josuke not notice the arrow flying into Koichi?

Not sure about the Crazy Diamond thing, but it and SP:TW should be relatively similar in speed. Bad Company is...weird. Their power was absurdly high despite their size, and they had incredibly tiny bullets that could punch through regular sized humans. I don't know if I'd call them a low showing or consider them to have completely normal weaponry. As for Josuke not noticing the arrow, do you mean when Keicho shot him? I don't remember the specifics of the scene, but wasn't that near the beginning of Part IV? Josuke would still be incredibly inexperienced, and I don't remember if he had Crazy Diamond out or not.