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Regarding Naruto Uzumaki
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As i explained above, Naruto didn't really train or go on missions between chapter 699 and The Last.TheMightyRegulator said:
SO6P chakra is useless unless Naruto uses it, when Naruto uses SO6P chakra it's called Six Paths Sage Mode. Naruto was clearly not using Six Paths Sage Mode against Toneri.
The rest of you're comment is pretty null... Lastly, Momoshiki was fighting Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto, not Kurama Mode Naruto.
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Naruto the last does not scale to anyone excluding Sasuke and maybe kyuubi if I'm not mistaken
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When Naruto entered the war, he had just gotte KCM, he had yet to master it. Furthermore Naruto had split his chakra between multiple Shadow Clones.Antvasima said:
The point at which KCM was mastered by Naruto was after he temporarily synchronized, then latter fully befriended and unsealed Kurama. Before that, Naruto had not mastered KCM, and had his chakra split between multiple clones.
Hence KCM is only High 6-A after chapter 571
The only people this could scale to would be
- Sasuke
- Jyuubi Obito
- Jyuubi
- Possibly Minato
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No they wouldn't Naruto in the last was obviously much stronger than his Shippuden counterpart I mean he could use kyuubis chakra freely in base form as his own he mastered the art of being a jinchuriki and trained himself that's how he got where he was at.Kurama chakra sage mode in the last was never seen again btw so I'm fairly certain power scaling from future events doesn't work unless Sasuke or maybe kyuubi as I said.
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My response to Antvasima answers your questionAlpha149 said:
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It's pretty much stated in the Hiden series of novels that Naruto didn't really train or go on missions between chapter 699 and The Last.Coleworld12 said:
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First, Naruto never had Kurama's full power which must have boost his reserves considerably, until post time-skip.UncleSpaceman said:
Second: Naruto without SO6P mode managed to keep up with rinnegan Sasuke for quite a bit, and also crossed countries in seconds, two feats to occur that Naruto has never before done prior to his SO6P upgrade. It's quite obvious his statistics were boosted by said chakra.
Third: That wasn't Sage of Sixth Paths Naruto in the Boruto movie, because the chakra covered the entirety of his skin. The SO6P mode does not cover the face.
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Also, the idea Naruto didn't get stronger or train, is likely false as he was clearly shown to be more proficient in chakra control, capable of controlling his rasensguriken without contact and even capable of partial intangibility compared to pre-time skip Naruto.
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Whether or not KCSM Naruto and Toneri's continental feat scales to anyone beside Naruto and Toneri, who this scales to or if it's just an inconsistency (scales to noone).Tzula said:
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The boost is irrelevant because Kurama seperated from Naruto during the fight with Toneri. Naruto can only be using the chakra he took from Kurama.
Naruto was clearly not in base, also i don't see Naruto keeping up with Sasuke before using SPSM in the manga.
Yes it was... It was discussed at length on the Naruto wikia (1) (2)
Naruto was clearly not in base, also i don't see Naruto keeping up with Sasuke before using SPSM in the manga.
Yes it was... It was discussed at length on the Naruto wikia (1) (2)
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1.I don't see a problem with the term Bijuu Mode
2.Why is Toneri's durability Multi Continent level?
2.Why is Toneri's durability Multi Continent level?
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He tanked Naruto's punch that cleaved through the multi-continent beam. It was the second punch he couldn't tank.Kkapoios said:
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i will reply on the powerscaling issue because i don't care much for Naruto terminology.
my reply is simple, since there such a great amount inconsistant details, all th forms upto and including regular/old sage mode should stay as they were before, bijuu mode will be rated 6-C to 6-A, sage bijuu will be 6-A and final form with Haguromo's power will be the powerscaled low 5-B.
my reply is simple, since there such a great amount inconsistant details, all th forms upto and including regular/old sage mode should stay as they were before, bijuu mode will be rated 6-C to 6-A, sage bijuu will be 6-A and final form with Haguromo's power will be the powerscaled low 5-B.
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The beam was only continent level
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Bijju mode before and after Six path power should be treated differently
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So a host can use bijuu mode without the actual bijuu and reverts to base after his chakra his absorbed despite kyuubi not being affected?
Again he did not use bijuu mode...
Again he did not use bijuu mode...
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There is an unexplained power difference which can only be attributed to Naruto having Six paths powerAlpha149 said:
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@Antvasima
I agree with Illuminati, as CHILLVIBEZ was saying ealier, it's possible that Naruto never used KCM against Toneri. Since this seems to create many power-scaling issues, it's less likely that Naruto used KCM against Toneri.
So KCM would go back to the old stats, the power-scaling would look like this
Kurama Chakra Sage Mode
I agree with Illuminati, as CHILLVIBEZ was saying ealier, it's possible that Naruto never used KCM against Toneri. Since this seems to create many power-scaling issues, it's less likely that Naruto used KCM against Toneri.
So KCM would go back to the old stats, the power-scaling would look like this
Kurama Chakra Sage Mode
- AP ---> Multi-Continent (Stronger than Toneri)
- Dura ---> Multi-Continent (Stronger than Toneri)
- AP ---> Island Level to Multi-Continent (Stronger than or equal to KCSM)
- Dura ---> Island Level to Multi-Continent (Stronger than or equal to KCSM)
- AP ---> atleast Multi-Continent (Stronger than KM)
- Dura ---> atleast Multi-Continent (Stronger than KM)
- Jyuubi Obito
- Jyuubi
- Sasuke
- Possibly Minato
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Minato doesn't posses Six Paths Power thus powerscaling to people with said power is impossible
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@Unclespaceman
1. Which is why saying KCM naruto did not grow stronger post time skip is ridiculous. Unless you're implying city level KCM Naruto can overpower a multi-continental attack. That is the definition of an outlier (I concede on that it's not an accurate reason for the upgrade though).
2. Is Rinnegan Sasuke in any of those scans. Did I mention Madara? No? That's probably because I was referring to the valley of the end when Rinegan Sasuke was exhausted. Am I being made fun of here?
3. The wikia also says the Moon is hollow, and Gamabunta is 100 m. I read the wikia too and hence, I know it's neither official nor infallible.
@Antvasima, the wikia's definitions are fine.
1. Which is why saying KCM naruto did not grow stronger post time skip is ridiculous. Unless you're implying city level KCM Naruto can overpower a multi-continental attack. That is the definition of an outlier (I concede on that it's not an accurate reason for the upgrade though).
2. Is Rinnegan Sasuke in any of those scans. Did I mention Madara? No? That's probably because I was referring to the valley of the end when Rinegan Sasuke was exhausted. Am I being made fun of here?
3. The wikia also says the Moon is hollow, and Gamabunta is 100 m. I read the wikia too and hence, I know it's neither official nor infallible.
@Antvasima, the wikia's definitions are fine.
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He pretty much has Kurama Sage Mode though, which is why i added possibly.Kkapoios said:
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Kkapoios said:
Omg. Somebody gets it...
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Not really, it makes a lot of the so called "hyperbole" not hyperbole. Feats backing up statements.Kkapoios said:
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No, Kkapoios was right, Minato cannot be scaled.
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Minato doesn't posses Six Paths Power ,thus he is unscalable.
