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What's the exact AP of it? Because depending of it Raikou could figth it and at worst just use her NP, and it isn't a first move rigth?
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Can one shot constructs with 851 Gigatons Durability. And he uses it if Black Asta isn't enough to defeat the opponent.What's the exact AP of it? Because depending of it Raikou could figth it and at worst just use her NP, and it isn't a first move rigth?
Ok, then should be enough to a fight happen before it come to play and if that point is reached then Raikou can use her NP.Can one shot constructs with 851 Gigatons Durability. And he uses it if Black Asta isn't enough to defeat the opponent.
Np are quick to be used, and the moment he call the sword she will use her npIt won't take that long for him to use it either. Also Asta still one-shots her until she uses her clones of (name is too long)
You mean that even without Black Divider he one-shot Raikou without her clones? Because that's not the case.Also Asta still one-shots her until she uses her clones of (name is too long)
But is there a specific reason why she would use it at that specific moment when she wouldn't know how strong it is?Np are quick to be used, and the moment he call the sword she will use her np
I mean, currently even servants with Rank D Strength are 26 GT and she is Rank A, and Mystery Killer passively buff her against mystery beings to the point that even to others Rank A she is strong, so I don't think there is really much difference in AP.Nevermind, she's 26 Gigatons I think
Asta would still have a really decent 3× advantage tho
Servant can tank A rank NP with not much problem who are 90~gigatonsNevermind, she's 26 Gigatons I think
Asta would still have a really decent 3× advantage tho
Raikou is good at analysis the strength of thing and servant have the habitude of surprise big atk because NPBut is there a specific reason why she would use it at that specific moment when she wouldn't know how strong it is?
scan for that?Raikou is good at analysis the strength of thing
It's like a basic skill of servant to? We litteraly see it in each GW. They litteraly can sense the strengh of other people and can sense the danger of their weapon (litteraly why people find EA or excalibur dangerous at sight or how musashi knew that rider raikou was stronger than her just by seing her)scan for that?
be more specificThey litteraly can sense the strengh of other people and can sense the danger of their weapon
you made it sound like raikou had a feat showing it or info manip is all,Raikou is good at analysis the strength of thing
Right, i forgot about Raikou mystery killerBtw it wasn't mentionned but raikou mystic slayer should work against black asta (since he's basically magic). It will probably greatly shorten the gap in physical stats. In normal form, none of his swords can really deal with the aoe of mana burst lightning either
Her profile says hundred of meters range, and the aoe shouldn't be too different, simply surrounding asta is more than enough tooRight, i forgot about Raikou mystery killer
As for Mana Burst Lightning, i doubt the AoE would be that massive as Salter Mana Burst with it's ultra massive AoE
Asta is everything BUT magicBtw it wasn't mentionned but raikou mystic slayer should work against black asta (since he's basically magic). It will probably greatly shorten the gap in physical stats. In normal form, none of his swords can really deal with the aoe of mana burst lightning either
Range and AoE are two different things though, and just having an AoE surrounding Asta won't enough as Asta can actually deflect attacks that have kilometers AoEHer profile says hundred of meters range, and the aoe shouldn't be too different, simply surrounding asta is more than enough too
"Anti Magic 「反アンチ魔法 Anchi Mahō」 is an energy that is capable of nullifying other forms of magic. Black asta basivally fill his body with itAsta is everything BUT magic
In mana burst case, it does, and you didn't show him deflecting the attack. I don't really see how he could since he mus reflect it with his sword eitherRange and AoE are two different things though, and just having an AoE surrounding Asta won't enough as Asta can actually deflect attacks that have kilometers AoE
Well that even made mystery killer more effective, or i'm misunderstanding it lelAsta is everything BUT magic
Nah mystery killer is anti mystery (who would have guess) so anything short of a normal human (base asta) should be affectedWell that even made mystery killer more effective, or i'm misunderstanding it lel
"Mystery Killer: Raikou was known as the greatest "Mystery Killer" of her era, slaying countless monsters, demons, apparitions, and laying waste to the bastions of the supernatural in the name of defending Kyoto. As a result, she gains bonuses to her parameters when facing those who utilize magical techniques or wield magical equipment""Anti Magic 「反アンチ魔法 Anchi Mahō」 is an energy that is capable of nullifying other forms of magic. Black asta basivally fill his body with it
If you have a scan, sure. but even then, Asta has his passive powernull and, if it's necessary, Demon Destroyer to deal with Mana Burst.In mana burst case, it does.
I don't get that part.he could since he mus reflect it with his sword either
Anti magic is litterally called magic in its description"Mystery Killer: Raikou was known as the greatest "Mystery Killer" of her era, slaying countless monsters, demons, apparitions, and laying waste to the bastions of the supernatural in the name of defending Kyoto. As a result, she gains bonuses to her parameters when facing those who utilize magical techniques or wield magical equipment"
Asta doesn't magic at all. And I don't see anything implying Anti-Magic would be included in it.
Gonna search the scan in 10~20 minutes, busy right now. What does he null exactly? And does he need to be transformed or something?If you have a scan, sure. but even then, Asta has his passive powernull and, if it's necessary, Demon Destroyer to deal with Mana Burst.
I'm saying that it wouldn't make sense for asta to be able to deflect ape magic considering how his ability worksI don't get that part.
The whole gimmick of Asta is that he doesn't have Magic. The manga has like a hundred of statements about Asta not using magic.Anti magic is litterally called magic in its description
He nulls everything that's Magic based.Gonna search the scan in 10~20 minutes, busy right now. What does he null exactly? And does he need to be transformed or something?
I'm saying that it wouldn't make sense for asta to be able to deflect ape magic considering how his ability works
Now, I get it. So no he won't be able to deflect that, only the lightning.
Like I said, it wouldn't work against base asta, but black asta is filled with anti magic, which is actually a kind of magic according to materialsThe whole gimmick of Asta is that he doesn't have Magic. The manga has like a hundred of statements about Asta not using magic.
But it's on black asta, not regular asta (according to his profile). Raikou should be able to fight black asta physically (especially with the buff) and her np should workHe nulls everything that's Magic based.
YepHe should still be able to nullify part of it with Anti-Magic tho.
Even Black Asta. AM is the power of his devil but even the devil doesn't have magicLike I said, it wouldn't work against base asta, but black asta is filled with anti magic, which is actually a kind of magic according to materials
"Anti-Magic Swords: Anti-Magic (Asta uses swords that are imbued of the mysterious Anti-Magic energy, each of them having different shape and abilities. With those swords, he can easily cut through any magic attribute with incredible ease regardless of the shape of the spell [...] Anyone taking a clean hit from those swords will be unable to use magic for a variable period of time. The more Anti-Magic Asta uses, the more potent his nullification becomes)"But it's on black asta, not regular asta (according to his profile). Raikou should be able to fight black asta physically (especially with the buff) and her np should work
Again, anti magic is litterally called magic, either he didn't have magic before or he doesn't have magical energy. Also I'm pretty sure raikou is supposed to be buffed against demons
Yeah, I meant they his body only nulls as black asta, of course the sword does"Anti-Magic Swords: Anti-Magic (Asta uses swords that are imbued of the mysterious Anti-Magic energy, each of them having different shape and abilities. With those swords, he can easily cut through any magic attribute with incredible ease regardless of the shape of the spell [...] Anyone taking a clean hit from those swords will be unable to use magic for a variable period of time. The more Anti-Magic Asta uses, the more potent his nullification becomes)"
The only thing exclusive to Black Asta is the passive Anti-Magic
If you're taking what the profile says, which is clearly a wording issue, over what the source material says, I don't know what to say.Again, anti magic is litterally called magic, either he didn't have magic before or he doesn't have magical energy. Also I'm pretty sure raikou is supposed to be buffed against demons
It was from the wikia but you're right, the source doesn't say anything about it being magic. SorryIf you're taking what the profile says, which is clearly a wording issue, over what the source material says, I don't know what to say.
Not only in Black Clover, you can't use magic without MP, making the use of Anti-Magic impossible if it actually was magic, the characters literally says it's not magic.
906.6 gigatonsWhat's the exact AP of it? Because depending of it Raikou could figth it and at worst just use her NP, and it isn't a first move rigth?