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Ragna Crimson Discussion Thread

Fuji985 said:
Step 1

Although it is not called "absolute zero", the temperature that can cool matter enough to stop functioning is absolute zero.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130104143516.htm#:~:text=At%20zero%20kelvin%20(minus%20273,zero%20on%20the%20Kelvin%20scale

referensi:

"Matter at negative absolute temperature has a whole range of astounding consequences: with its help, one could create heat engines such as combustion engines with an efficiency of more than 100%. This does not mean, however, that the law of energy conservation is violated. Instead, the engine could not only absorb energy from the hotter medium, and thus do work, but, in contrast to the usual case, from the colder medium as well.

At purely positive temperatures, the colder medium inevitably heats up in contrast, therefore absorbing a portion of the energy of the hot medium and thereby limits the efficiency. If the hot medium has a negative temperature, it is possible to absorb energy from both media simultaneously. The work performed by the engine is therefore greater than the energy taken from the hotter medium alone – the efficiency is over 100 percent.
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ok but why would he have it tho
it isn't really enough to say "ok but his ice is reaaaaally cold" you need to explain why Ragna would get Absolute Zero
Fuji985 said:
Step 2

Shouldn't Ragna be killed/eliminated along with the silver sword inside his body which is the object of his life?
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he IS the silver sword
he's fused with it, that's why Starlia's aura vision sees him as a walking talking silver sword
they aren't separate
that's kinda the entire point
 
"I think that Anti Dragon King Strike - Twin Hunting Flash should not be scaled according to Kamui's Thunder God form because Ragna stated that it is a compressed attack that makes it sharper, which allows it to negate durability."
 
Shouldn't Ragna and Ruoxi have Conceptual Destruction Type 2 possibly Conceptual Destruction type 1?

And Saintest has Conceptual manipulation type 2 possibly Conceptual manipulation type 1?

Feats

SLAM

AS YOU CAN SEE, I CAN'T REALLY DO IT RIGHT-

シャアン

CLANG

THIS IS THE MAGICAL EXPRESSION OF NIM HAMNIM, THE "CONCEPT-UAL MAGIC: PRISON"

INFORTUNATELY, THE DRAGON ATTACK THE OTHER DAY DESTROYED 40% OF OUR CLONE PRODUCTION PLANTS. THAT'S A BIGGER BLOW THAN THE LOSS OF OUR SOLDIERS

THAT'S WHY I'M NOTHING MORE THAN AN INTERIM

SINCE 95% OF THE REMAINING PLANTS ARE ALLO-CATED TO THE PRODUCTION OF CARLA-CHAN, FILL PROBABLY BE A WHILE BEFORE THEY FIND A BETTER VERSION OF ME

THE "CONCEPTUAL MAGIC OF THE PRISON SAINTESS WILL REMAIN LOST FOR THE TIME BEING

ONCE A BETTER UNIT IS CONSTRUCTED, I'LL SWAP OUT WITH HER
 
Can you explain why you think they should have that.
 
azontr said:
Can you explain why you think they should have that.
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In my opinion, this should be Conceptual manipulation, because of the statement from saintest that it is Conceptual Magic?

Also Ruoxi's statement that magic does not come from this planet but comes from the outside world, doesn't this include magic influencing reality in Ragna Crimson?

What do you think?
 
It is conceptual magic, but there's no elaboration on it. We don't know what type of concepts it manipulates, nor how they're actually manipulated, or anything about how "conceptual magic" functions besides that it's conceptual magic. For all we know, it has nothing to do with actual concept manipulation.

The reality warping does apply to Magic in general, but that doesn't inherently make Conceptual Magic Type 2 or Type 1, because normal Magic and Conceptual Magic are two different things with likely differing properties.
 
I shouldn't be surprised the Moon Dragon got mid-diffed but I thought he would last more than a chapter 😭😭
 
GarouHM said:
I think he isn't dead. He just fled from there after testing Ragna.
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even ragna thinks as much, the japanese has him saying something to the effect of "he folded too easily, it's like he did the bare minimum then retreated"
 
Yeah he's definitely not dead.

But Ragna was nerfing himself in their battle so that's why he was able to harm him. Still impressive though given he's a claw user.

Makes me wonder how Leo(with a claw) vs Ragna is going to go 🤔
 
azontr said:
Leo is dead
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Would be too simple. She was on a magic circle so maybe she is on a training regimen where she constantly fights, dies and comes back.

SeijiSetto said:
even ragna thinks as much, the japanese has him saying something to the effect of "he folded too easily, it's like he did the bare minimum then retreated"
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Maybe the scientist/strategist lady on the other side (Bagram's army) ordered him to do it to test something.
 
I’ve only watched the anime, can someone show me the scan of Ragna shooting the silver comet sword through stars? It has that justification for his star lebel scaling in his profile.
 
Uzukeas said:
I’ve only watched the anime, can someone show me the scan of Ragna shooting the silver comet sword through stars? It has that justification for his star lebel scaling in his profile.
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I think that's talking about Kamui stating he can crush the rising Sun.

But I think that's a hyperbole or something. Also pretty sure the "rising Sun" is just Gilzea lol.
 
Shadowslaya! said:
Also pretty sure the "rising Sun" is just Gilzea lol.
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Those who try to cut my esteemed self will get cut down in turn. It's merely inevitable. As such, the process in which that occurs is of no consequence. Similar to how it's established that the sun rises from the east and sets to the west. My esteemed self is too,《Absolute》. The principles of this world are predetermined.
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The sandbox that we are using for the profile is this one:

vsbattles.fandom.com

SeijiSetto/ragnabox

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com

Any other sandbox with other scaling isnt the one that's being implemented. If you see sandboxes with Ragna inexplicably at Star level, you should assume it's wrong, and turn to the draft above.
 
azontr said:
The sandbox that we are using for the profile is this one:

vsbattles.fandom.com

SeijiSetto/ragnabox

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com

Any other sandbox with other scaling isnt the one that's being implemented. If you see sandboxes with Ragna inexplicably at Star level, you should assume it's wrong, and turn to the draft above.
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That profile is basically just nothing but downplay tbh.

The one with planetary is better.
 
Some things that need to be calced fr:


Ragna collapsing the second stratum. Sure it took him like hundreds of DHS but he'd still scale to it somewhat.


Bagram shaking the entirety of Gehenna with a yell.

Kou Tenran firing a laser at the Sun Cult from across the world immediately. She also splits some clouds whilst doing so.

Kou Tenran stating verbatim that she can destroy Gehenna and fry the entire continent it's on.
 
Seems like the Moonclaw can drain the silver aura of wathever it touches. This was stated when Skirim hit the Argentum Soldiers and emptied all their silver aura of their armors. This would also explain why he managed to slice Ragna's neck and break his sword.
 
Valrhavn said:
Seems like the Moonclaw can drain the silver aura of wathever it touches. This was stated when Skirim hit the Argentum Soldiers and emptied all their silver aura of their armors. This would also explain why he managed to slice Ragna's neck and break his sword.
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Interesting.
 
Holy sh*t. Slime-Sama's ultimate attack has finally been defeated. This cannot be.
 
▪︎ The Saints have all resistance against mind fuckery.

▪︎ Lupowa's dragon form can basically use Kyoka Suigetsu kind of hax...Shinji's Bankai hax.

▪︎ Thorgil axe is made from the silver comet and could have destroyed the grand temple of the Cult. This also explains why he managed to break Glestnowak's body when all the Ragna's DHF couldn't even tickle him.

▪︎ So far Jizerka possesses:
  • Illusion Magic
  • Conceptual Magic: Prison
  • Enhancement Magic
  • Ice Magic

▪︎ Thorgil generated a mountain sized explosion when he threw the piece of the Sun Cult defensive wall against the dragons

▪︎ Li Ruoxi could block and send away Thorgil's axe with SABA.

▪︎ Ruoxi new move to block Thorgil.

▪︎ Corpse Saint has somekind of body deconstruction magic or sum basing on what happened to the mass of dragons under him.

▪︎ Raksha could have stopped/defeated bloodlusted Thorgil.

▪︎ The Augmented Brigade + Thorgil have peak superior dragon regeneration (Thorgil even more and was considered unkillable by Net Saint).
 
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