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Ragna Crimson Discussion Thread
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Yo anyone has the profiles for gilzea and ragna?
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I just happened to pass by and see a meteor feat.
The meteor KE is 20 gigatons of TNT with the 1.2 km diameter. Cool feat y'all have here.
The meteor KE is 20 gigatons of TNT with the 1.2 km diameter. Cool feat y'all have here.
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that is true, i was talking about it elsewhere
you could probably argue that, considering he was in contact with it over a few panels, he held up the mass of the meteor, and so it'd be a Class T LS feat (~1.364e12 kg)
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Madara meteor feat the og
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How much strong would be Ragna that managed to stop that meteor's motion before obliterating it?
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There might be confirmations that Glestnowak used real weapons against Ragna, so real lasers and particle beam cannons. This would be great for both Ragna's durability and speed.
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An explosion that matched the size of Amen, a triple digit sized city, from several dozens of miles of distance would be only Town Level?
How could this be even possible?
ED: The explosion got also two massive shockwaves around the explosion.
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If the explosion really is bigger than the triple digit km size city which is what I pressume you meant here, an explosion of that size would def be lower digits on the teraton range.
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An ellipsoid meteor with a width of 1.2 km and a speed of 7 km/s would have about 20 Gigatons of TNT in KE, but I think it might be stronger because the meteor looks pretty far away from Earth in this panel. (like several thousand km away) The robot saintess says it will make contact in about 2 minutes, making the meteor far faster than 7 km/s if it is several thousand km away. Can the distance to Earth be found with angsizing?
Kobayashi says no one from any bloodline (except Gilzea) can take out Kamui 10/10 times so Kou Tenran nonchalantly talking about blowing Gehenna up or even the whole continent right then and there should scale to Kamui and vice versa. A post-time skip stronger Ragna only being Island Level with Heavy Hunting Flash would be pretty underwhelming IMO.
Kobayashi says no one from any bloodline (except Gilzea) can take out Kamui 10/10 times so Kou Tenran nonchalantly talking about blowing Gehenna up or even the whole continent right then and there should scale to Kamui and vice versa. A post-time skip stronger Ragna only being Island Level with Heavy Hunting Flash would be pretty underwhelming IMO.
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I think the potency of Bagram's meteor is way above 20 gigatons.
According to Marionetta, the machine saintess, that meteor was going to wipe out Amen and the surrounding region. Take note Amen is a triple digit sized city (one hour to reach the center of the city from the outskirts and by using a flying-futuristic car) that dwarfs the surrounding mountain ranges too... and also Amen was also protected by a full 360° silverine barrier.
Furthermore the meteor was supposed to be strong enough to kill Ragna, hence with an extremely high density (so a metallic composition) that didn't break not even a thiny portion of it not even when it reached the planet atmosphere.
It might be around 100 gigantons or sum. Teratons with everything considered.
EDIT: oh yes, also its very fast speed. Stated by @GarouHM previously.
According to Marionetta, the machine saintess, that meteor was going to wipe out Amen and the surrounding region. Take note Amen is a triple digit sized city (one hour to reach the center of the city from the outskirts and by using a flying-futuristic car) that dwarfs the surrounding mountain ranges too... and also Amen was also protected by a full 360° silverine barrier.
Furthermore the meteor was supposed to be strong enough to kill Ragna, hence with an extremely high density (so a metallic composition) that didn't break not even a thiny portion of it not even when it reached the planet atmosphere.
It might be around 100 gigantons or sum. Teratons with everything considered.
EDIT: oh yes, also its very fast speed. Stated by @GarouHM previously.
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I'm not good at making these calcs. Like...at all.
I hope someone with better skills can do that.
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I think it's more so that he keeps the scale ambiguous most of the time. It's easy to tell the scale is massive with Supersonic Missiles, Particle Cannon and Aurora Brilliance but how massive we don't know.
I would do the angsizing myself if I fully understood the concept but not much for now. I will look a bit more into it and come up with a calc if I can manage.
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Ok so after doing more research, I think I managed it. (Someone who knows needs to check the calculation)
Taking the vertical height of the panel and applying human vertical vision (90 degrees) the meteor should be about 1,23 km away from the POV of the panel.
The Earth was a bit trickier. I cropped the panel and aligned the visible side with a circle. It should cover about 174 degrees in the field of vision.
174,15/360 = 12756/2 x 3,16 x distance
Distance comes out to about 4200 km (4197) and speed 35 km/s (34,98) which makes it 5 times faster. So 20 Gigatons x 25 = roughly 500 Gigatons of TNT if there are no mistakes.
Taking the vertical height of the panel and applying human vertical vision (90 degrees) the meteor should be about 1,23 km away from the POV of the panel.
The Earth was a bit trickier. I cropped the panel and aligned the visible side with a circle. It should cover about 174 degrees in the field of vision.
174,15/360 = 12756/2 x 3,16 x distance
Distance comes out to about 4200 km (4197) and speed 35 km/s (34,98) which makes it 5 times faster. So 20 Gigatons x 25 = roughly 500 Gigatons of TNT if there are no mistakes.
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i don't even get a mention by name
i'll look into it - just by eyeballing that distance shown on-panel does look like a few thousand kilometres, so.
since we have a stated time until impact it should be easy to work with to get a speed from it
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Better than i thought! This plus the triple digit size of Amen, the density of the meteor that didn't even lost a tiny piece of its original form once he entered the planet's atmosphere...and Marionetta's statement about wiping Amen and the surrounding region from the maps (plus Bagram pushing his already-far-from-Amen army and erecting defences)...and we should get a really great result.
Also do you know that recently Kobayashi on his X page said only Thunder God Kamui and Gilzea are Tier 0 (powerwise) so far? So TG Kamui's magic attack potency was greater than Kou Tenran's supposed Eurasia + Gehenna obliterating light beam. This makes sense considering only world-shattering lvl of magic attack can kill Ragna and bypass his anti-magic body (Ultimatia statement) backed up with Glestnowak's words of chapter 79 "killing him with magic is nearly impossible" and dude is the direct henchman of Tenran.
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Tbh a 500 Giga explosion should be more than enough to wipe out everything, Amen and all. I'm not sure if measuring the density of the meteor is possible. From the looks of it, I just assumed it was made of rock and took the minimal density. (8 g/cm3 IIRC)
LG Kamui scales above every feat, yeah but his crater feat (which he did in his new Base) should already be in the single-digit Teraton ballpark. (Again, if I didn't mess up) I also think Tier 1 and 0 are much stronger but there are very few quantifiable feats. We will probably get more in this War Arc anyway so better to wait for some more months before jumping the gun.
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8g/cc is extremely dense for a rock, iron and steel are ~7.8 g/cc. as far as i know, most meteorites are close to 3g/cc, higher if they're rich in iron.
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Oh yeah, I remembered wrong. 3 g/cm3 was the one I used.
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