Quick Thing About Speed Ratings

[Hl3_or_bust]

On Contessa and The Number Ma's pages, they're listed as having subsonic reactions for feats of dodging bullets

This is frankly beyond a lowball, as Kurt would only be this speed if the feat was done by a silenced or really, really old guns, and Contessa's is just in no possible way Subsonic

tl;dr The Number Man and Contessa need to have their reaction speed changed to at least Supersonic, probably higher considering Contessa's feat

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Transonic is probably safer as that would match up with speeds of basic handguns. Subsonic would likely be the movement speed.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Still seems like a bit of a lowball since Kurt scales well above his clones which could dodge subsonic projectiles shot by an incredibly skilled person, and Contessa's is definitely higher

but better than nothing

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Transonic is absolute minimum, don't get me wrong. Most guns are easily Supersonic- assault rifles and snipers and the like. Small arms fire is generally at minimum transonic.

 

[Promestein]

The issue here is that we don't know whether or not they're aimdodging; given that both their abilities are precognitive, it's unlikely that they dodged after the bullet is fired. It's just there for a supporting Subsonic feats, as they'd be Subsonic otherwise.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

If it is a case of aimdodging (thus not what I'd call a true bullet dodge) then yeah, obviously it takes less reactions in the same way it doesn't take Subsonic reactions to dodge a speeding car if you know where it's coming from/can see it from a long ways off.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

It seems like Promestein already made a decision here.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

well for one the feat of dodgeing Flechettes darts most likely wasn't aimdodgeing, and secondly is that it's rather hard to directly aimdodge attacks coming from right behind you

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. You can politely ask her to comment here again via her message wall if you wish.

 

[Promestein]

It's really not that hard to aimdodge attacks coming from right behind you when you're a precog and are able to detect small motions from all around you and determine their trajectories.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

for Contessa, that definitely makes sense

For Kurt, that's trickier because I doubt that someone would try to shoot someone known for absolutely demolishing people in CQC from up close

 

[Promestein]

I mean, it happened, though.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Yeah I forgot that

 

[Antvasima]

So are the conclusions here that nothing should be changed, or does some page need better clarifications/justifications for the statistics?