Question about Toei Goku.

[Tots_Real]

Seeing as the movie are included in Toei Goku's profile now shouldn't that include Battle of Gods and Ressurection F?
They're technically Z films after all and official Toei sources have mentioned it when discussing GT's timeline.

 

[Shishii]

Wouldn't those not count because they are made like 'non canon' by the fact they are redone by the anime and there's changes to them?

Also I don't really think they qualify as 'Z films' since they are explicitly super, no?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Seeing as the movie are included in Toei Goku's profile now shouldn't that include Battle of Gods and Ressurection F?
They're technically Z films after all and official Toei sources have mentioned it when discussing GT's timeline.

They're made literally years later and they'd case massive inconsistencies with how even the official sources made from Toei (like Xenoverse/Heroes) treat them.

It's clear that the Movies were overriden by the DBS counterparts, and GT is the actual sequel of the Z anime, both BoG/RoF and GT coexisting in the same timeline wouldn't make any sense.

 

[Ednaxel2]

Only bog was included in that timeline, and then again stuff like Goku never using SSB, Frieza never going golden, Whis/Beerus never showing up at times when they absolutely should, and the Pilaf Gang being kids in the 2 films even though they're even older than Goku during GT, just contradicts it completely. Nothing supports its canonicity other than that timeline which is pretty much retconned as it doesnt include resurrection F

 

[Tots_Real]

Wouldn't those not count because they are made like 'non canon' by the fact they are redone by the anime and there's changes to them?

Also I don't really think they qualify as 'Z films' since they are explicitly super, no?

If the movies were part of the Anime/Toei community the fact that the Super anime, which is a separate continuity from Toei, remade the movies won't mean anything.
Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F' are Z movies. Their full titles have "Dragon Ball Z" in them. The first actual Super movie is Broly.

 

[Shishii]

Idk. Seems like a massive stretch to include them, like they massively contradict everything that follows (GT)

 

[Tots_Real]

Dragon Ball Chōzenshū 4: Super Encyclopedia, Shueisha's official dragon ball timeline and Toei's own website refer to BOG as part of the same continuity as GT.

 

[Nierre]

following

 

[Shishii]

Dragon Ball Chōzenshū 4: Super Encyclopedia, Shueisha's official dragon ball timeline and Toei's own website refer to BOG as part of the same continuity as GT.

It may, however that doesn't change the fact that doesn't make any sense.

Like, there's a ton of contradictions and power scaling and just pure nonsense that stops that from even remotely being logical.

If nothing like supports it being canon beside the timeline and it's inclusion would just make it completely nonsensical, why would we include it?

 

[TegamiBachi25]

DB timeline is just a massive mess. You could just try making a CRT for it, but I doubt that since Daima will be part of the third continuity that isn't connected at all to DBS even though it will also be canon.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

It may, however that doesn't change the fact that doesn't make any sense.

Like, there's a ton of contradictions and power scaling and just pure nonsense that stops that from even remotely being logical.

If nothing like supports it being canon beside the timeline and it's inclusion would just make it completely nonsensical, why would we include it?

Exactly, since we already accept toei DBZ continuity as including every single first thirteen DBZ film as canon to Toei's timeline, and those already contradict a bunch of timeline stuff, like Piccolo and the humans being alive during tree of might which takes place after Saiyan Saga