Question about Pikachu's AP

[LordAizenSama]

Hmm indeed, I agree with Weeklys point of view , Pikachu's feats are super inconsistent to where you'd think he gets delevelled with every new area. I'd prefer 8-C for his rating

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. It should be fine to change the statistics then.

 

[Lina_Shields]

So, from all this, Pikachu's AP should be changed to:

Attack Potency: Building level (Regularly produces electrical attacks comparable in power to real lightning, which have 5 Gigajoules worth of energy)

What should be done with the calculation that we currently have in Pikachu's profile?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Im currently working on the profile, dont change anything

 

[WeeklyBattles]

So, from all this, Pikachu's AP should be changed to:
Attack Potency: Building level (Regularly produces electrical attacks comparable in power to real lightning, which have 5 Gigajoules worth of energy)

What should be done with the calculation that we currently have in Pikachu's profile?

Hmm, perhaps add a "Potentially higher by absorbing electricity?"

 

[Antvasima]

That seems like a good idea.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Problem is, it's not potential. We have a full calc with peak absorption. 8-A with absorbing peak electricity works best imo.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

In other words, treat it like Pre-Crisis Supes in a way.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

So "At most 8-A by absorbing electricity?"

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also, should surf, fly, and iron tail be removed? Surf and Fly are event exclusive moves and Iron tail can only be learned by Tutoring and (In the past games) TM.

 

[LordAizenSama]

I guess that works also

 

[Lina_Shields]

Attack Potency: Building level normally (Regularly produces electrical attacks comparable in power to real lightning, which have 5 Gigajoules worth of energy). At most Multi-City Block level by absorbing electricity ("link to calc")

Would this be okay?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah i'll add that Lina

 

[LordKill90908]

Well, iron tail is iconic for Ash's Pikachu, so that move should probably remain. Surf and Fly should probably be removed however.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ok, i've made the changes, is there anything i missed?

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Wait isnt there a pikachu in the anime that can manipulate waves or something like using Surf? and i thought the manga was usuable here because of it being comparable to the anime as tetirary canon?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Youre thinking of Puka, a Pikachu that just has the ability to sense changes in the tides and is able to surf on a surfboard. And in the manga Pika is similar, just surfing with a surfboard, and ChuChu just tied balloons to herself to "fly".

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Oh right, Puka lol. Kk nvm

 

[WeeklyBattles]

So everything is alright then? No other issues?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I have no other issues.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

If there are no other problems then this should probably be closed

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Done.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Reopening this real quick because I realized that Pikachu's durability got downgraded too. However, Pikachu had that aforementioned Dragonair feat, as well as having battled Dragonite and Charizard.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

IIRC that dragonair feat was a manga feat where he tanked a City level attack, which im pretty sure would be considered inconsistent with the rest of his durability feats

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

We so have characters who are higher in durability than in AP. Case in point: Yoshi. And characters with less, like Kaguya and Yhwach. Heck. Pikachu's durability was town compared to MCB AP like last year. While yes, Pokemon is inconsistent af, not everything could be overlooked due to scaling to AP

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Hmm, I guess so, but I could've sworn he has been consistently beaten by much less before...Anyways, what do you propose his Durability should be?

 

[Antvasima]

I agree that durability can recurrently be greater than AP.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Indeed it can, so what should we use as a durability feat? I think the most damage he's taken in the anime is a Giga Impact from Latios or a Focus Punch from Regice.

 

[Cropfist]

Shouldn't the fact that he survived absorbing electricity that amped him to MCB apply it to his durability?

 

[Antvasima]

Nah. It is most likely a specific absorption ability.

 

[Lina_Shields]

Perhaps Pikachu's durability can be changed to:

Durability: At least Building level, likely higher

For Building level, it's because Pikachu is able to take attacks from monsters around his level, along with tanking Rhydon and Mega Lucario's attacks (which blew up a part of a cliff).

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That seems reasonable.

 

[Lina_Shields]

Should I make the changes?

 

[Antvasima]

I think that should be fine, yes.

 

[Lina_Shields]

I believe WB has already made the changes. My hands off to WB.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the help to him then.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

One more thing, because I'm not fully satisfied with the likely higher. The KE for Pikachu moving at his Mach 808 speeds is 230426390208 joules, which is city block level.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Huh, so it is, City Block level+ as a matter of fact, but i dont know if that would be considered calc stacking...

 

[Lina_Shields]

I believe we used a character's speed at one point to find his AP (such as Guts lightning dodging speed along with his dragonslayer), and considering that Pikachu has an actual listed weight of 6 kg, I think we should be able to derive KE from it.

Also using Pikachu's weight along with mach 808 speed brings him to City Block level...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Really? Then (Sorry that this is off topic but) why wouldn't this be accepted?

Pikachu's KE with mach 808 is only high-end City Block level Cross...