Attack On Titan Massive AP & Speed Revision

[Lilybitdun]

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[Apex_Predator_GX]

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[Lilybitdun]

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[Ezaru]

Then why are we rating people to full shifter Titan durability (over a large surface area) for cutting through napes....
Especially the current rating for Eren is him slashing the nape of the anorexic Colossal Titan after Bertolt evaporated a ton of weight trying to fry Armin. Are they a weak point or not?

Isn't it just that any injury to the nape is an instant win?

 

[Doggo]

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[Lilybitdun]

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[Lilybitdun]

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How long is the odm blade thing gonna take

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Isn't it just that any injury to the nape is an instant win?

Their napes arent any less durable than the rest of their body

 

[WeeklyBattles]

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How long is the odm blade thing gonna take

Huzy is the only person against it, and them being against it goes against how we rate weapons on this site, so

 

[Lilybitdun]

Huzy is the only person against it, and them being against it goes against how we rate weapons on this site, so

Damage also disagrees due to surface area, it's got 2 staff neutrals and 1 staff agree otherwise

 

[Lilybitdun]

Their napes arent any less durable than the rest of their body

Yeah the napes still require materials that are tough enough (iron bamboo and ultrahard steel) to damage titan bodies

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Damage also disagrees due to surface area, it's got 2 staff neutrals and 1 staff agree otherwise

Both myself and Reaper have already explained this in detail multiple times. The surface area is the reason why the swords would be tier 7 in cutting power but not durability.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah the napes still require materials that are tough enough (iron bamboo and ultrahard steel) to damage titan bodies

The swords are quite literally described as brittle and are canonically designed to be easy to break and are built to be disposable.

 

[Lilybitdun]

The swords are quite literally described as brittle and are canonically designed to be easy to break and are built to be disposable.

 

[Doggo]

Are we really sure its the blades having high AP or just piercing damage?


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Regular ass arrows can pierce titans

Maybe writing "8-B piercing damage via blades" is better than outright saying they are 8-B.

This is probably the reason why World War-era weapons are a threat to Titans, since their resistance to piercing damage sucks.

 

[Lilybitdun]

Are we really sure its the blades having high AP or just piercing damage?


3:18

Regular ass arrows can pierce titans

Maybe writing "8-B piercing damage via blades" is better than outright saying they are 8-B.

This is probably the reason why World War-era weapons are a threat to Titans, since their resistance to piercing damage sucks.

I believe I talked about this here before, the arrow does genuine fall under surface area. It's only puncturing a small area compared to ODM blades which can slash through entire chunks of titan flesh

8-B piercing damage via blades is literally the same as 8-B via blades, it's like not the blunt end of the blade is cutting through titan flesh. I don't see why this specific wording would be needed considering that's the typical assumption for how blade weapons are rated here

Also the whole world war-era weapons is appeal to reality. Cannonballs are already exploding pure titan heads which have megajoules worth of durability and thunderspears are blowing up at least 8-B level durability already with what's on the current profiles. Plus most of the Marley tech is specifically made to be anti-titan

 

[Doggo]

I believe I talked about this here before, the arrow does genuine fall under surface area. It's only puncturing a small area compared to ODM blades which can slash through entire chunks of titan flesh

8-B piercing damage via blades is literally the same as 8-B via blades, it's like not the blunt end of the blade is cutting through titan flesh. I don't see why this specific wording would be needed considering that's the typical assumption for how blade weapons are rated here

Also the whole world war-era weapons is appeal to reality Cannonballs are already exploding pure titan heads which have megajoules worth of durability and thunderspears are blowing up at least 8-B level durability already with what's on the current profiles. Plus most of the Marley tech is specifically made to be anti-titan

Alright fair, I was kinda the dumb for the necessary wording lol

 

[Lilybitdun]

Expanded on the odm blade section with an explanation of ultrahard steel & iron bamboo to clear up things a bit

 

[WeeklyBattles]

So yeah, Blades should scale to titan durability in AP via cutting power but would not scale in durability or to physical AP

 

[Lilybitdun]

So yeah, Blades should scale to titan durability in AP via cutting power but would not scale in durability or to physical AP

I would argue the sword durability shouldn't be drastically lower than the blade's cutting power since it still has to endure the force, that's the reason why ultrahard steel's flexibility plus toughness allows the blades to cut through titans

but ODM blade durability isn't listed on the profiles anyways so it doesn't really matter, the point really is just that blade's cutting power ap = titan durabilty

 

[Lilybitdun]

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[Lilybitdun]

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[Excellence616]

which part of the thread has been accepted?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

which part of the thread has been accepted?

Nothing yet, thats why we;re on page 8...

 

[Lilybitdun]

which part of the thread has been accepted?

Everything except the odm blade scaling

 

[Excellence616]

Everything except the odm blade scaling

Those part can be applied. I would advise to create another CRT specially for the ODM Blade scaling.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Everything except the odm blade scaling

So the Low 7-C Bertolt feat has been accepted?

 

[Lilybitdun]

So the Low 7-C Bertolt feat has been accepted?

No, it was removed from the proposals

The CGM thread about it hasn't concluded yet, I've been meaning to work on it but I've been busy with other verses

 

[Hiei312]

i dont know if this has been discussed yet since the topic is way too large for me to comb every post.

But i feel like Ymir (and i guess to some extent Eren since he has some level of control over her in the end) is massively underrated because people don't understand the last parts of AOT

The rumbling is kind of unbeatable by regular means because its ultimately being controlled by a being that's above the concept of time. The only reason they "won" in AOT is because Eren orchestrated a future where Ymir willingly chooses to lose due to sympathizing with Mikasa (this is why he says "it had to be Mikasa" in the end).

I don't know how exactly this would reflect in ratings because in terms of stuff like attack potency there isn't really much of note. but i think it is noteworthy that even if you dropped someone with universal AP in AOT they couldn't really do anything to stop the rumbling. even if you blow up the universe, that doesn't really do anything to Ymir. and she can always remake all the titans at any point in time connected to the paths. (which as far as we know is all of time).

 

[DaReaperMan]

i dont know if this has been discussed yet since the topic is way too large for me to comb every post.

But i feel like Ymir (and i guess to some extent Eren since he has some level of control over her in the end) is massively underrated because people don't understand the last parts of AOT

The rumbling is kind of unbeatable by regular means because its ultimately being controlled by a being that's above the concept of time. The only reason they "won" in AOT is because Eren orchestrated a future where Ymir willingly chooses to lose due to sympathizing with Mikasa (this is why he says "it had to be Mikasa" in the end).

I don't know how exactly this would reflect in ratings because in terms of stuff like attack potency there isn't really much of note. but i think it is noteworthy that even if you dropped someone with universal AP in AOT they couldn't really do anything to stop the rumbling. even if you blow up the universe, that doesn't really do anything to Ymir. and she can always remake all the titans at any point in time connected to the paths. (which as far as we know is all of time).

All right Where's the hard proof for this?

I mean a direct statement.

 

[Lilybitdun]

i dont know if this has been discussed yet since the topic is way too large for me to comb every post.

But i feel like Ymir (and i guess to some extent Eren since he has some level of control over her in the end) is massively underrated because people don't understand the last parts of AOT

The rumbling is kind of unbeatable by regular means because its ultimately being controlled by a being that's above the concept of time. The only reason they "won" in AOT is because Eren orchestrated a future where Ymir willingly chooses to lose due to sympathizing with Mikasa (this is why he says "it had to be Mikasa" in the end).

I don't know how exactly this would reflect in ratings because in terms of stuff like attack potency there isn't really much of note. but i think it is noteworthy that even if you dropped someone with universal AP in AOT they couldn't really do anything to stop the rumbling. even if you blow up the universe, that doesn't really do anything to Ymir. and she can always remake all the titans at any point in time connected to the paths. (which as far as we know is all of time).

This is extremely unrelated to the premise of the crt

 

[WeeklyBattles]

All right Where's the hard proof for this?

I mean a direct statement.

The part about Mikasa specifically is the last group of scans. The others are about the Path transcending space and time

 

[Excellence616]

The part about Mikasa specifically is the last group of scans. The others are about the Path transcending space and time

i dont know if this has been discussed yet since the topic is way too large for me to comb every post.

But i feel like Ymir (and i guess to some extent Eren since he has some level of control over her in the end) is massively underrated because people don't understand the last parts of AOT

The rumbling is kind of unbeatable by regular means because its ultimately being controlled by a being that's above the concept of time. The only reason they "won" in AOT is because Eren orchestrated a future where Ymir willingly chooses to lose due to sympathizing with Mikasa (this is why he says "it had to be Mikasa" in the end).

I don't know how exactly this would reflect in ratings because in terms of stuff like attack potency there isn't really much of note. but i think it is noteworthy that even if you dropped someone with universal AP in AOT they couldn't really do anything to stop the rumbling. even if you blow up the universe, that doesn't really do anything to Ymir. and she can always remake all the titans at any point in time connected to the paths. (which as far as we know is all of time).

we should discuss it here and come to a conclusion.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Seems fine, then, reading the scans.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Should also add something in regards to a resistance to regen nullification, because they dont have traditional regen, their 'regen' is Ymir rebuilding their bodies from The Path by drawing matter from across space-time.

 

[Lilybitdun]

And we wonder why this is 8 pages long

Make your own CRT for this

 

[Lilybitdun]

Made a crt for the odm blade scaling by itself

Attack On Titan ODM Blade & Thunder Spear Scaling

Continuation of this CRT I'm going to go over how the ODM blades scale in terms of their cutting ap Agree: WeeklyBattles, Doggo, Mommyleona, Celestial_Pegasus, Damage3245, Godernet Disagree: Neutral:

vsbattles.com

This thread will be closed as all the other proposals already have enough votes