Question about Caster Gilgamesh and some potential revisions

[PsychoWarper]

Well im just saying that he is his own servant that can be summoned.

Like with Saber and Lancer Artoria (Though less difference between the Gils).

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Gil is a special case, one that is seperate from Artoria's, due to the fact that his profile is not for his servant form exclusively.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Hmm I guess your right, but adding all of Caster Gils stuff to the other Gils page would just make it even messier and its already massive and messy.

So maybe we should put it to a vote of weather we put Caster Gil as just another key on "Archer" Gils page.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Well... We already have a Key for his Authority-boosted Classless self from CCC

So not much to lose. The page says "Gilgamesh (Fate Series)" so it looks more like a page for the character himself.

Long-story-short: I prefer having him as another Key

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I'm probably gonna make a CRT for Alive "Caster" Gil, if we decide not to just change it on this thread. His magic allowed him to keep up with Kingu who is basically just Alive Enkidu, and there is no reason for his mystic codes to be arbitrarily so much weaker than the rest of his Alive Arsenal. Also, since he is using his alive arsenal, he likely still has some of his strongest weapons in his vaults. We can put a Possibly in front of the 2-A weapons tho. He is 7-A physically due to the strain of having a bunch of servants summoned (he is basically single-handedly running his own summoning system, what did you expect lol), and him 'sealing' himself into his mage form.

If we decide that Caster Gil should be moved to the main Gil profile then they keys would likely be:

Archer Gilgamesh | Prime Gilgamesh (and the other names for that) | Caster Gilgamesh | Alive "Caster" Gilgamesh.

Formatting them like this ^ would allow us to make the profile more understandable than it would be if we just wrote all the keys on their own. We can, this way, just leave the current Archer and Prime Gil keys as is, Copy-paste servant Caster Gil into his own tab, and then just say "All previous abilities, in addition to..." for Alive "Caster" Gilgamesh.

The stats for Alive "Caster" Gilgamesh would be: Mountain Level physically (Is greatly weakened due to strain, but should be no weaker than his servant version), Mountain Level+ to Multiverse Level+ with Magecraft and Mystic Codes (His mystic codes should not be significantly weaker than Prime Gilgamesh's weapons, as they are not tied to is physical strength), Possibly Multiverse Level+ with his strongest weapons (Has the same arsenal as Prime Gilgamesh, but has lost large portions of his vaults.), higher via Melammu Dingir What do y'all think?

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Gotta remind people of this, but the 2-A Gil isn't exactly him in his Prime, it's him elevating his Spirit Origin level to a level comparable to BB, using Ten Crowns EX, which is also an Authority almost everybody has sealed in them, except when they unlocked it. So it's unlikely Living Gil has it on him.

Also, Kingu (and Living Enkidu) scales below Tiamat (the fact he can even restrain her in the first place is regarded as a miracle), while 2-A Gil scales a bit above BB, who has the power of a Goddess far above Tiamat.

Another "Also", wasn't Kingu subconsciously holding back? His body doesn't seem to want to fight Gil.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

It is, however, his Original Power. He doesn't have the authority, but it isn't like Myth. Mystic Code Gil is just 7-A or whatever when he isn't using Ten Crowns EX. He is still 2-A, but amplifies himself further using that skill.

Cool, so he is 2-A just on a lower level than Gil while using 10 Crowns EX is.

I have no doubt that he was holding back to some degree, hell, he probably would have smited Gil if not for his visions at the end of the fight. That being said, there is no way in hell he held back by the degree of at least 2 to 3 levels of infinity, just cuz he caught the feels

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Yup, so when making a key for Living Gil, he'd be on a lower scale than when he fought BB, and less abilities.

I can actually live with Living CasGil having 2-A Magecraft though. He still has the treasure comparable to Living Enkidu.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Thats fine with me if we decide to make Caster Gil a key but shouldnt Ea be mentioned in those keys as well?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Thats fine with me if we decide to make Caster Gil a key but shouldnt Ea be mentioned in those keys as well?

You right. His Ea should be 2-A when he is alive as well, and planet level in servant form

 

[PsychoWarper]

Earth is 2-A in Fate so all Anti-Planet NPs are 2-A ovo

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Bump

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Bump

 

[PsychoWarper]

So how should we decide weather we leave Caster Gil as its own page or make him into another key of Gilgamesh (Fate Series)?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

We might honestly want to ask a beuracrat since this is gonna be a balance between readability and correctness.

 

[PsychoWarper]

That or an Admin but yes we probably should.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Bump

 

[PsychoWarper]

Bump

 

[PsychoWarper]

Bump

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I'll link Monarch the thread for his opinion

 

[PsychoWarper]

Alright thats fine.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Bump

 

[PsychoWarper]

Bump

 

[PsychoWarper]

Bump