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Prototype Verse Revisions
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How come?
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Unsure of where I fall on regen for Alex, since it mostly scales to how much biomass he has consumed.
At full capacity, and given that it is stated he can control organical matter at the molecular level, I'd assume High regen makes sense. Iirc, Alex also once boasted that in order to kill him, you'd have to destroy all his cells.
But at the same time, he was shredded and de-limbed but Heller in their final fight, and the highest level of damage we saw there capped at Low-High, and then Alex just basically admitted defeat and let himself be eaten. So, yeah.
Matter manipulation seems a bit tricky. While Green did break down a wall with her trickery, I'm not sure if that warrants molecular level matter manipulation, since it's only been stated that he can control organic mass at the molecular level.
The clothes and tech thing I'm iffy on. Clothes I can kinda get, but tech is a whole different can of worms. Need some time to think.
Resistance Soul manipulation: ehhhh, probably. He is a virus, so whether or not he has a soul is up to you to decide.
Resistance to Freezing temperatures: Also iffy on this.
Everything else looks good to me.
At full capacity, and given that it is stated he can control organical matter at the molecular level, I'd assume High regen makes sense. Iirc, Alex also once boasted that in order to kill him, you'd have to destroy all his cells.
But at the same time, he was shredded and de-limbed but Heller in their final fight, and the highest level of damage we saw there capped at Low-High, and then Alex just basically admitted defeat and let himself be eaten. So, yeah.
Matter manipulation seems a bit tricky. While Green did break down a wall with her trickery, I'm not sure if that warrants molecular level matter manipulation, since it's only been stated that he can control organic mass at the molecular level.
The clothes and tech thing I'm iffy on. Clothes I can kinda get, but tech is a whole different can of worms. Need some time to think.
Resistance Soul manipulation: ehhhh, probably. He is a virus, so whether or not he has a soul is up to you to decide.
Resistance to Freezing temperatures: Also iffy on this.
Everything else looks good to me.
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@Unite
The biological definition of immunity has no bearing on whether or not we give a character immunity. They're either completely and utterly immune, or they're not. There's no middle ground.
It was also never confirmed whether or not Mercer has a soul, since he is at his core, a virus.
The biological definition of immunity has no bearing on whether or not we give a character immunity. They're either completely and utterly immune, or they're not. There's no middle ground.
It was also never confirmed whether or not Mercer has a soul, since he is at his core, a virus.
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@PTSO
Exactly, it's full of PIS. You literally kill a guy who got stronger after the first time you fought him by decapitation, when he regenerated from a puddle. When Alex first meets Heller, he gets shanked multiple times and regenerates instantly from the damage.
As far as the wall breaking thing goes, I forgot the specifics, but this and this are the closest relevant things I can find to what she did. She basically manipulated one of the three states of matter.
I think the rest of the following points are straight forward with the tech thing, freezing temperatures being 0 degrees celsius, and Mercer is pretty much out there naked when it's likely colder due to snow already being on the ground + wind, and Mercer dying, and his body being a virus, so him not having a soul is not far-fetched.
@Repp
"But for the classifications in the wiki, extremely high resistance like Toriko's Coco makes sense."
Exactly, it's full of PIS. You literally kill a guy who got stronger after the first time you fought him by decapitation, when he regenerated from a puddle. When Alex first meets Heller, he gets shanked multiple times and regenerates instantly from the damage.
As far as the wall breaking thing goes, I forgot the specifics, but this and this are the closest relevant things I can find to what she did. She basically manipulated one of the three states of matter.
I think the rest of the following points are straight forward with the tech thing, freezing temperatures being 0 degrees celsius, and Mercer is pretty much out there naked when it's likely colder due to snow already being on the ground + wind, and Mercer dying, and his body being a virus, so him not having a soul is not far-fetched.
@Repp
"But for the classifications in the wiki, extremely high resistance like Toriko's Coco makes sense."
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I supposed we can go with the larger ratings then if there are other, more higher, showings of Regenerationn
Don't know about the manipulation of states of matter thing, nothing really points towards intermolecular forces. Also, wasn't the wall already covered in biomass?
I can understand being resistant to colder temperatures, but saying he's resistant to freezing temps implies he could laugh off attacks from that freeze people instantly.
Even at 0 degrees Celsius, it would take a human body awhile to completely freeze over.
I supposed we can go with the larger ratings then if there are other, more higher, showings of Regenerationn
Don't know about the manipulation of states of matter thing, nothing really points towards intermolecular forces. Also, wasn't the wall already covered in biomass?
I can understand being resistant to colder temperatures, but saying he's resistant to freezing temps implies he could laugh off attacks from that freeze people instantly.
Even at 0 degrees Celsius, it would take a human body awhile to completely freeze over.
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Resistance to cold sounds good, given that's what Gray from Fairy Tail has.
About the states of matter, solid molecules are tightly packed, allowing no space to get between them. By manipulating these spaces, she was able to make a rock wall crumble upon itself.
Also, should it be immunity to soul manipulation since he doesn't have one?
About the states of matter, solid molecules are tightly packed, allowing no space to get between them. By manipulating these spaces, she was able to make a rock wall crumble upon itself.
Also, should it be immunity to soul manipulation since he doesn't have one?
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Resistance to cold makes sense
But the wall was covered in red biomass, which she then absorbs. How does that imply she messed with the intermolecular forces? There are dozens of other ways the wall could have caved in on itself.
But the wall was covered in red biomass, which she then absorbs. How does that imply she messed with the intermolecular forces? There are dozens of other ways the wall could have caved in on itself.
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Occam's razor. It's stated in P1 that she uses the virus to further strengthen structures, so removing the virus shouldn't weaken a material past it's original durability. However, I don't think she absorbed it, she just dispersed it.
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But strengthening doesn't mean she's messing with the intermolecular forces of an object. The only thing we see is that she covers the buildings with a layer of biomass. It's the same thing as covering a stuffed animal with metal armor. That extra layer makes it more durable.
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The virus is irrelevant to what she did to the wall though. She broke down a wall and removed the virus, simply by placing her hand on the wall.
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Her touching the wall puts the intermolecular manipulation even further into question. Given the level of strength we've seen from Runners like her and Alex, cracking a wall with a simple touch isn't that unbelievable.
Also, the virus does play a part cause as you see, the wall was covered in red biomass, which Greene removed. They made a big deal about it being there, since it displayed Greenes level of control over the virus.
Also, the virus does play a part cause as you see, the wall was covered in red biomass, which Greene removed. They made a big deal about it being there, since it displayed Greenes level of control over the virus.
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The virus only strengthens structures, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up honestly. If the virus had any influence on the wall breaking, then the entire core hive should've been destroyed after all traces of Greene's biomass disappeared.
Simply placing your hand on a wall doesn't break it either, that's not how this works.
Simply placing your hand on a wall doesn't break it either, that's not how this works.
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Then why did you tell me the intermolecular forces are related to strengthening the building via biomass?
We saw that there was still biomass all over the room, and that only the wall she touched was removed of its biomass, which explains why the building didn't collapse.
You're forgetting that these are superhuman virus in a world of fiction. They could've exerted enough pressure to shatter the wall with a touch. They are carrying around thousands of tons in mass, which they can manipulate the density of on the fly.
We saw that there was still biomass all over the room, and that only the wall she touched was removed of its biomass, which explains why the building didn't collapse.
You're forgetting that these are superhuman virus in a world of fiction. They could've exerted enough pressure to shatter the wall with a touch. They are carrying around thousands of tons in mass, which they can manipulate the density of on the fly.
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-heavy sigh-
"About the states of matter, solid molecules are tightly packed, allowing no space to get between them. By manipulating these spaces, she was able to make a rock wall crumble upon itself."
"As far as the wall breaking thing goes, I forgot the specifics, but this and this are the closest relevant things I can find to what she did. She basically manipulated one of the three states of matter."
"We saw that there was still biomass all over the room, and that only the wall she touched was removed of its biomass, which explains why the building didn't collapse."
That doesn't explain why the building doesn't collapse, because
1. Her biomass was only affecting the 51st floor
2. With that logic, the core hive should've crumbled, but it didn't
3. The building is fine in Prototype 2
These assumptions are getting a bit wild now, so hopefully we can stick to the topic at hand.
I've revised the changes we've discussed earlier @Repp, I've managed to do the resistance to the known ailments, not sure how to word the other one though.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Unite_My_Rice/Alex_Mercer_Profile
"About the states of matter, solid molecules are tightly packed, allowing no space to get between them. By manipulating these spaces, she was able to make a rock wall crumble upon itself."
"As far as the wall breaking thing goes, I forgot the specifics, but this and this are the closest relevant things I can find to what she did. She basically manipulated one of the three states of matter."
"We saw that there was still biomass all over the room, and that only the wall she touched was removed of its biomass, which explains why the building didn't collapse."
That doesn't explain why the building doesn't collapse, because
1. Her biomass was only affecting the 51st floor
2. With that logic, the core hive should've crumbled, but it didn't
3. The building is fine in Prototype 2
These assumptions are getting a bit wild now, so hopefully we can stick to the topic at hand.
I've revised the changes we've discussed earlier @Repp, I've managed to do the resistance to the known ailments, not sure how to word the other one though.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Unite_My_Rice/Alex_Mercer_Profile
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The wall wasn't even completely broken. You can still see the edges of the wall are still intact. And considering that all the other walls are fine, and still coated in strengthening biomass, it not collapsing isn't unbelievable.
If it was only affecting one floor, then the building not collapsing makes sense. She only destroyed the one wall. It wasn't a support pillar that maintains the buildings structure. I could destroy a wall in any floor of modern sky scraper and the whole thing won't collapse. Ever play jenga?
Well of course the building is fine. She destroyed one wall. It's not like she struck a vital part of the building that disrupts its integrity.
I can understand manipulating biological matter down to the molecular level, cause its stated in game, but not for non-organic matter, the wall feat is too vague.
If it was only affecting one floor, then the building not collapsing makes sense. She only destroyed the one wall. It wasn't a support pillar that maintains the buildings structure. I could destroy a wall in any floor of modern sky scraper and the whole thing won't collapse. Ever play jenga?
Well of course the building is fine. She destroyed one wall. It's not like she struck a vital part of the building that disrupts its integrity.
I can understand manipulating biological matter down to the molecular level, cause its stated in game, but not for non-organic matter, the wall feat is too vague.
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They have multiple non-organic matter feats.
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The ingame electronics?
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Everything I've listed in my blog. There's nothing vague about any of the feats tbh. I think they're quite simple.
Can this be accepted?
Can this be accepted?
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There's only two feats where non-organic material was being absorbed.
The wall feat, which I'm now questioning
And the armor feat. Like I said earlier, technology is a whole different can of worms, so any runner being able to manipulate is extremely strange. What's to say they didn't just take it off there person when they were consumed? They do it with the weapons they were holding.
The wall feat, which I'm now questioning
And the armor feat. Like I said earlier, technology is a whole different can of worms, so any runner being able to manipulate is extremely strange. What's to say they didn't just take it off there person when they were consumed? They do it with the weapons they were holding.
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The gun isn't a part of their body. When he consumes soldiers, he consumes their equipment, armor, metals, etc. You can see that when he consumes and shapeshifts.
The gun isn't a part of their body. When he consumes soldiers, he consumes their equipment, armor, metals, etc. You can see that when he consumes and shapeshifts.
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But the nature of the Blacklight virus is to consume and manipulate the cells/organic matter of a living being. http://prototype.wikia.com/wiki/Blacklight_virus
There's also the fact that this implies that Alex can repurpose his organic matter into radios that are automatically set to the radio frequencies that Blacklight soldiers use.
There's also the fact that this implies that Alex can repurpose his organic matter into radios that are automatically set to the radio frequencies that Blacklight soldiers use.
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The virus turned Mercer's clothes into biomass. James Heller made an outfit out of nowhere using biomass. The virus can transform non-organic matter. Nothing I've stated is a stretch.
I'mgettingsotiredofdiscussingthistbh
I'mgettingsotiredofdiscussingthistbh
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Well if you say so
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@Repp
Be that as it may, It happens :^) It's not like they have technokinesis, they just have limited matter manipulation in that non-organic materials can be consumed and reproduced via the virus.
I'll use a paraphrase from Prototype 2 regarding viral sonar:
"I don't know how it works, but shit, it works"
Describes a handful of powers in the verse.
Be that as it may, It happens :^) It's not like they have technokinesis, they just have limited matter manipulation in that non-organic materials can be consumed and reproduced via the virus.
I'll use a paraphrase from Prototype 2 regarding viral sonar:
"I don't know how it works, but shit, it works"
Describes a handful of powers in the verse.
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This is the sample of the current changes.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Unite_My_Rice/Alex_Mercer_Profile
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Unite_My_Rice/Alex_Mercer_Profile
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Rice's suggested profile looks pretty solid, needs a few tweaks for appearances sake but beyond that it's fine
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I think this is good but i think it could do with some light tweaks mostly for aesthetics.
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Bump.
