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Presence vs Pralaya

It is the Presence. Lucifer didn't say it wasn't The Presence, he just said he doesn't consider it his father because it became something corrupted and "evil". There are way more statements in that series calling it The Presence or God. Twitter Statements are not accepted.
 
EmperorRorepme said:
It is the Presence. Lucifer didn't say it wasn't The Presence, he just said he doesn't consider it his father because it became something corrupted and "evil". There are way more statements in that series calling it The Presence or God. Twitter Statements are not accepted.
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u know more about presence than lucifer and the guy who write the series itself lol
 
Again the people who write the series have to go through editorial processes in which they do not. If what they say is contradicted by the source material as well, we disregard it even more so.
 
DeMatteis is constantly pressured by comic book fanboys to give an answer they want to hear when he has specifically said himself he is not interested in the power aspect and is more interested in narrative and characterisation.
 
EmperorRorepme said:
Again the people who write the series have to go through editorial processes in which they do not. If what they say is contradicted by the source material as well, we disregard it even more so.
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it dont contradict anything its not thier fault if some got it wrong and it was undestandable if tweet comes from other writer who dont even write these character or thier stories but thats not the case here
 
There's several statements in which they say it literally is The Presence and one metaphorical statement where Lucifer say "you aren't my father". So yes, it does contradict the source material and even then it doesn't go through any editorial processes. Hell, Dematteis himself has said everything he says is just his opinion and has said everything in DC is simply an aspect of God. He even says anyone can have a different view which is just as valid.
 
lol have you read the story he was manipulating the heavens his power resembles that of creator thats what lucifer got coined first than when he has 1 on 1 intraction with him he immediately stated he wasnt his father so it dont contradict anything
 
I have and that isn't indicated in the slightest. The only statement you can use to say it isn't The Presence is Lucifer's. And it clearly was metaphorical. Lucifer himself calls it The Presence several times.
 
So you are saying angels in heaven werent blinded my this new creature that you claim to be presence then i suggest you to please read again.
 
There's even narrator statements and the angels watched The Presence turn into the entity. Ok, I don't need to re-read it though. The Presence can do what he wants to the angels, lol. It doesn't disprove anything.
 
Also lucifer only call him God not presence or yahweh and this only lasted till lucifer actually meet him face to face and find the truth about it
 
that being does have creator like power that is one of the many creators out thier and all creator are aspect of presence thus him effecting angels isnt anything new. Except lucifer who is free from the plan by presence.
 
EmperorRorepme said:
By "Divine Presence" do you mean when The Spectre merged with a "void". The Spectre merged with The Source/The Logoz.
The Source is an aspect of Michael.
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also source isnt michael apsect this was just spectre guessing and also michael power is the power of god himself as michael is power of god (just as lucifer was the will of god and thier also voice of god all these being are seperate from him but represent an aspect of him) so confusion can arise for spectre
 
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