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Pre-Training Saitama upgrade

I mentioned Blizzard already. She's only in Class B because she intentionally holds back. She doesn't move on to Class A because of emtional hangups.

You have an arugment with Mizuki, but the HA guy alao said she had A-Class or S-Class potential in the first place. At least 9-B, possibly 8-C could work then I guess.
 
Actually yeah, this ultimately just comes down to that he lacks everything other than a 9-B feat and baseless scaling. Just "9-B, possibly higher" is a better alternative.
 
So should we go with Qawsedf's suggestion then?
 
No Im still against it. It feel like an unnecessary nerf. Look, when that scene with Sneck one shotting Tiger level monsters came, it was just showing us a lower level Tiger, clear and simple. However, when that manga panel showed Crablante, it was meant to show that he's an average Tiger level. Like the Sea King, he's not top tier Demon level. Awakened Cockroach is Demon and he was beating an upgraded Genos whereas Sea King had the possibility of losing against a weaker Genos. Same thing with Crablante, they put him just to show you what an average Tiger monster is. Again, you're overthinking things. This wasn't some overanalytical shit that deserves that much detective work, this is just them showing you on the page that Crablante is Tiger, Sea King is Demon, and so on. 8-C is a good place for him. If he was Wolf, then yeah 9-A would be plenty for him, but we're talking Tiger. And just because you're saying that he wasn't shown any feats, then what about characters like Vaccine Man, who have nothing backing their strength aside from notes by ONE saying how strong he is? Isn't that the exact same situation with Crablante? Seriously just give him the 8-C ranking, and give Saitama's durability its buff too.
 
He just has nothing to do off of besides the unbacked notion that he's comparable to a A-Class. He's fine as is without future stuff.
 
Might i note, Crablante is one of the first monsters to show up so it's possible ONE wasn't sure about how power levels would work at that point. I agree with Qawsed.
 
It seems like we should apply Qawsedf's suggestion and then close this then.
 
KGiffoni said:
Might i note, Crablante is one of the first monsters to show up so it's possible ONE wasn't sure about how power levels would work at that point. I agree with Qawsed.
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While that is true, his disaster level wasn't revealed til much later.
 
Tetsucabrah said:
KGiffoni said:
Might i note, Crablante is one of the first monsters to show up so it's possible ONE wasn't sure about how power levels would work at that point. I agree with Qawsed.
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While that is true, his disaster level wasn't revealed til much later.
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Oh, is that so? Sorry, i thought it was revealed at its first appearence. Still agree with Qawsed tho.
 
His disaster level was reveled in the OPM guidebook. Since lore wise he was around before the HA was formed.
 
And the guidebook only covered up to the King or Fubuki arc iirc, so it was around that time in the manga.
 
There's no way he's just 9-B, he's Tiger level. He's a proper threat, and for some reason you guys wanna nerf him and lump him with the Wolf level monsters. On average, and A class hero is 8-C, on average Tiger level monsters need 1 A class hero. Therefore, on average a Tiger level monster is 8-C. Stop it with the "no feats, no service" stuff. Honestly you're being unnecessarily stubborn. I'm not asking to give the guy 1-A levels of power, I'm just asking for what's fair. I'm basing his power in comparison to A class heroes. This junk about "low tiger high tiger" doesn't make sense here as it can't be applied, because Crablante was used in that panel to show you what an average Tiger level monster is. For God's sake just listen.
 
What do you think Qawsedf? He does seem to have a point.
 
Antvasima said:
What do you think Qawsedf? He does seem to have a point.
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He just ultimately doesn't have the feats to back it up. The only addition I can see is a possibly/likely higher rating next to the 9-B.
 
@Qawsedf

Okay. Feel free to edit the page accordingly then, so we can close this thread.
 
This doesn't make sense at all. I'm against this. You're essentially making him a Wolf threat monster by keeping him at 9-B and for what? The proof is in front of you and you wanna talk about feats. What about Deep Sea King or Genos? You never see them actually wreck towns and cities, yet they are on that tier. But with Crablante you wanna talk about feats? Again the manga panel is in front of you just straight up stating Carblante is Tiger level. Funny how by making him 9-B you're actually making it even more inaccurate. Tiger level monsters are on average 8-C. Snek one shotting someone doesn't mean they're a whole tier below him. And on top of that, never does it ever state that Crablante is low tier Tiger. In fact if anything he's an average Tiger, since he was used on that panel, just like the other monsters shown. It was showing us, the readers, what an average monster threat is and what average hero is needed to deal with said threat. If you really can't even understand that from reading the page then you shouldn't be allowed to edit the pages on this wiki in the first place.
 
Genos has three different Town level calcs and DSK has direct scaling. Crab doesn't have either of those things.
 
Actually, i agree with Digup. Crablante should at the very least be stronger than the strongest wolf threat.
 
Yeah I totally agree with that. So find a Tier 8 wolf and I'll back an upgrade.
 
But my g, there are no tier 8 Wolves, because they're frickin Wolves. Tiger levels are above them in strength by a good amount. Afterall, you saw the difference between your average A class and B class heroes. So please, give Crablante the 8-C he deserves.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Yeah I totally agree with that. So find a Tier 8 wolf and I'll back an upgrade.
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At least comparable to the weakest Tiger ever found*
 
i dont even need to make a thread. now it might just be some outlier or gag or plot device but it was bothering me so here it is: in the same chapter as when saitama took the 4251 kilojoule attack he got the crap kicked out of him by some school bullies and i dont think they were strong enough to inflict 4 sticks of dynamite worth of damage. if you would like to verify my words here is a link to the chapter: http://w12.readonepunchman.net/manga/onepunch-man-chapter-8-5/. so now your telling me those school bullies are 8-C?
 
bob you completely missed the point. First of all, that attack on kid saitama was wall level, meaning it was 9-B. Second, the monster that rammed saitama into the wall was Wolf level. Third, Crablante not only fought an adult saitama, but he was also classified as a Tiger level threat in the link I provided at the top. Tiger levels are above Wolf levels. He's an average Tiger level, but for some reason Qawsedf234 wants to nerf the hell out of him and start bringing up irrelevant stuff when the proof is right in front of him. And finally, you wanna tell me that kid saitama is the same level as an adult saitama? And also, saitama's durability needs an upgrade too because he survived multiple angry shots from the TIGER LEVEL MONSTER that on average needs an A class hero to deal with.
 
Tetsucabrah said:
Could it be possible to calc the KE of that wave?
That monster is the "messenger of the Sea folk" and he was the first to arrive. So I don't think he's receiving help to make the wave.
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^^^^

Could still try this if you really want an 8-C wolf. Maybe idk
 
Yeah calcing the Sea Messenger is your best bet for trying to get an upgrade for Crab and Personification of a light pull-cord.
 
Did that wave wipe out the houses in the area or did it just splash around? Do you have the next page of that chapter?
 
Just the size seems like high end 9-B like an Elephant. The wave, since it seemingly pulled a large ship probably would get a 9-A rating if nothing else.
 
Digupthehatchet said:
Did that wave wipe out the houses in the area or did it just splash around? Do you have the next page of that chapter?
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Nah. It did pull up a boat though. But otherwise it just sank a hotdog cart.
 
Digupthehatchet said:
Did that wave wipe out the houses in the area or did it just splash around? Do you have the next page of that chapter?
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That wave is directly hitting the beach. Nothing else really.
 
Well then 9-A for a Wolf. Then I guess Crablante earned his 8-C because he's Tiger level. How about it?
 
No, he'd just be 9-A or at least 9-A like with how Gums or Bakuza are acaled from Choze.
 
Let me try explaining it in simpler terms. So think of Goku. He shoots ki blasts and destroys a building. That doesn't mean he is building level, you get me? Or better yet, think of Boros. He said he was gonna wipe out the planet's surface, but he never gets the chance to do it. There was no feat showing he could do it, yet he is put as multi continental. That is based on the author's statements right? Same thing for Crablante. He never had the chance to do feats but the author said he's Tiger, therefore he has to get the 8-C rank. I mean I really don't get why you wanna nerf him and count him as a lower tier Tiger when he was put in that panel as an AVERAGE Tiger, not high or low tier.
 
Tetsucabrah said:
http://prntscr.com/p9arba
I wonder, could this potentially upgrade the lifting strength of a majority of the verse?

At the very least, the monsters.
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Seems pretty solid. He's holding the car like it's a backpack or something. I say it's safe to upgrade some character's lifting strength.
 
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