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Post Crisis Superman vs The Sentry
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Mr.Myxyzpitlk, who has the power to create and bend anything in the universe to his will. His matter-manipulating powers which should've turned Superman to dust only temporarily discomforted him.Joseph619 said:
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Supes as only been shown to destroy at a molecular lvl, while Sentry on the other hamd has been shown to destroy on a subbatomic lvl, hence more power or destructive potiency. Supes in fact holds the speed advantage yet Sentry is Intangable and has hax to deal with this set back also along with his forcefield. Also insane regen and immortality would put sentry ahead the game because Supes would exaust himself more just for a KO when in fact sentry could go for a kill indeed.
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i'm pretty sure that was prime...Joseph619 said:
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Thought as much. Prime and superman are different people, i dont know how he got em mixed up.
No, it was Post-Crisis Superman.
http://imgur.com/s5wClZ5
No, it was Post-Crisis Superman.
http://imgur.com/s5wClZ5
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I'm not going to participate in this thread, but this must be said:
Some of these scans absolutely need to be put on the relevant profiles. This is essential to the accuracy and integrity of the profiles as well as the prevention of some future angst among members. This matter may merit some explanation blogs for both characters, but unfortunately I have neither the time nor the qualification to speak extensively on these matters.
Quicksilver seems very learned of the Sentry's capabilities. Mr. Schroeder seems very learned of Superman's lesser known capabilities. Perhaps the two of you could work together and with other members to make relevant explanation blogs akin to the ones I am working on with the Devil May Cry series?
EDIT: My apologies if I endanger the focus of this thread; I feel that the matter of the explanation blogs is an important matter to discuss given the popularity of Superman and the Sentry. I shall leave it to others to decide where the proper place to discuss this matter would be.
EDIT 2: Ultra ninja'd. Quicksilver already made a content revision thread for Sentry. My point about the blogs still stands, though, as one may not easily understand how these characters function.
Some of these scans absolutely need to be put on the relevant profiles. This is essential to the accuracy and integrity of the profiles as well as the prevention of some future angst among members. This matter may merit some explanation blogs for both characters, but unfortunately I have neither the time nor the qualification to speak extensively on these matters.
Quicksilver seems very learned of the Sentry's capabilities. Mr. Schroeder seems very learned of Superman's lesser known capabilities. Perhaps the two of you could work together and with other members to make relevant explanation blogs akin to the ones I am working on with the Devil May Cry series?
EDIT: My apologies if I endanger the focus of this thread; I feel that the matter of the explanation blogs is an important matter to discuss given the popularity of Superman and the Sentry. I shall leave it to others to decide where the proper place to discuss this matter would be.
EDIT 2: Ultra ninja'd. Quicksilver already made a content revision thread for Sentry. My point about the blogs still stands, though, as one may not easily understand how these characters function.
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1. I agree whole heartly, the powers that are shown here for supes are definetly not on his profile and bringing them up in a vs thread may or may not confuse members hereFollow Doctor Freeman said:
2. I wouldn't mind
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@Quicksilver
Thanks, dude. Let us keep in mind that the Sentry isn't exactly a simple character, either. Nice job on the revision thread, by the way.
@TeenAngel101
Again, I'm not voting, but I beseech you to heed these words: Don't refer to a character as a knockoff in your OP. It tends to set a bad tone for a thread. Also, what do you have against Nevada (to say nothing of our solar system)? Sure, they have Las Vegas and all those casino cities, but there are good people to be found in Nevada. I'm just kidding about you having something against Nevada, of course; no harm done to anyone.
Thanks, dude. Let us keep in mind that the Sentry isn't exactly a simple character, either. Nice job on the revision thread, by the way.
@TeenAngel101
Again, I'm not voting, but I beseech you to heed these words: Don't refer to a character as a knockoff in your OP. It tends to set a bad tone for a thread. Also, what do you have against Nevada (to say nothing of our solar system)? Sure, they have Las Vegas and all those casino cities, but there are good people to be found in Nevada. I'm just kidding about you having something against Nevada, of course; no harm done to anyone.
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Lol, but seriously: Sentry has an "S" symbol, Can absorb solar energy, one of two major Marvel heroes who wears a cape, possesses the power of an "exploding sun", defeated a godly being on a regular basis(Thor/Wonder Woman), etc.Follow Doctor Freeman said:
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Fair enough, but let's drop the point; the thread has gone off track enough as it is without starting any arguements of this sort.
Fair enough, but let's drop the point; the thread has gone off track enough as it is without starting any arguements of this sort.
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Again, his heat vision is sub-atomic. These particles and anti-particles (by definition of being particles) in the scan are smaller than atoms; they are the building blocks of matter. Also, no, that is not Superboy-Prime in either the scan I posted or the one with Myx. It's Post-Crisis Superman.DatBoyNorbit said:
Also:
Superman (Matt, Heart, Huesito, Andrew, Promstein, The Real Cal Howard, Quantu, Loyalservant, God-King, and PostmodernD): 10
Sentry (Cropfist, Ataberkins, Peter, Joseph, RadicalMrR, RoyGundam): 6
And Quicksilver, Andrew still counts unless confirmed by an admin to be a duplicate account or imposter. But anyway, since it's been a 3+ lead for more than a day now, Superman wins according to the rules of this site. Is that correct?
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Close fight, but unless anyone has anything more to add, I figure he does.
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Fair enough, but like i said before i'm Still Waiting on someone to provide proof that supes can permanently put down or incapacitate sentry for 6 months... and due to his new powers and abilities, supes permanently putting down sentry is extremely difficult, which is why i say it's a drawX Heart of Steel x said:
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As long as someone disagree with a character winning and puts forth a decent agrument why, the results won't be added until he or she concedsX Heart of Steel x said:
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That isn't how the rules were explained to me by other admins. And I just checked the rules .
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For a verdict, there must be at least seven votes in favour of one character/team, with a minimum difference of three votes. Some examples:
Copied from the page:
For a verdict, there must be at least seven votes in favour of one character/team, with a minimum difference of three votes. Some examples:
- A final vote tally of 6-0 will be considered invalid.
- A final vote tally of 7-0 will be considered valid.
- A final vote tally of 7-4 will be considered valid.
- A final vote tally of 7-5 will be considered invalid.
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So your just going request a vs thread to added when it's voters fail to give valid proof why character a ca permantly kill character b? Wow....
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I vote sentry for reasons above.
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In short, there need to be at least seven votes, and the difference in votes between winner and loser has to be of at least 3 votes.
Therefore, 10 Vs. 6 is an acceptable result.
Therefore, 10 Vs. 6 is an acceptable result.
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The OP stated that the win could be by KO. Superman doesn't need to permanently kill Sentry for him to win. Also, no one voting for Sentry has stated why Sentry would defeat Superman either. You say that he will tire out, but he has a constantly renewing supply of energy (nigh-infinite).Peter "Quicksilver" Maximoff said:
And as stated above, upon destroying Sentry's body (something even Sentry voters above stated would happen), Superman could then destroy each individual particle with his Heat Vision.
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Looking through this thread, i'm more inlined to say that sentry wins this, but with extreme difficulty, supes is a very hard person to face, but sentry has the right tools to get the job down
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unless supes heat vsion can reach into other timelines (which sentry's atoms lie) then no supes can't put sentry down for good..X Heart of Steel x said:
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it's 10-8 now....Matthew Schroeder said:
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How does Sentry regenerate from sub-atomic Heat Vision ?Sora'sOther said:
Or any of this I stated above...
X Heart of Steel x wrote:
I just need to know how Sentry is competing here...
Speed
Superman is thousands to millions of times faster:
Speed Feat (Sextillions of times faster than light and still lowballed)
Intangibility
Superman has shown much better intagibility feats than Sentry:
Superman vibrates the entire Earth through a passing planet.
Atomizatio
Superman tanks the effects of a radiation storm that would atomize him:
Superman takes a brief dip in a radiation storm
Superman defeats two transmutation metas who had planned to turn him into salt:
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/transmutationresistence1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/transmutationresistence2.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/transmutationresistence3.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/transmutationresistence4.jpg
Superman tanks a molecular disruptor beam:
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/MolecularDistruptors.jpg
Superman tanks a beam that smashes solid matter into molecules:
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/RForceBeam1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/RForceBeam2.jpg
Telepathic Immunity
Superman resists the telepathy of Dominus, a Lord of Order with reality altering abilities
Uses Torquasm Vo to cast illusions into the minds of being as powerful as the Eradicator
Martial Arts
He's a pressure point martial artist:
Superman defeating Ultraman (a stronger version of himself) with martial arts
Heat Vision
Superman uses heat vision at the subatomic level
Superman lobotomizes Manchester Black to take his powers away
I would find more, but I'm working on my own blogs right now. Basically, all of the things Sentry could use against Superman, he's already immune or highly resistant to. If you guys want to keep saying Sentry would win, even after the proof to the contrary outlined above, then there's no convincing you anyway.
I do not want to ever call anyone biased, but there is a lot of desire to have everyone beat Superman just to prove they can. And while he's certainly not unbeatable, he outclasses Sentry in literally every category, feat, and superpower. There is no conceivable way Sentry could actually win. And voting for him to without giving evidence to support your claims is indeed bias.
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What superman is 10 times faster (will get a upgrade soon to even farther the gap), 20 times stronger, has resistance to everything sentry has, and the stamina to keep going forever. Sentry may pull a inconclusive with the whole sentry doesn't need a body to fight if a scan will ever be provided for that. If it wasn't for the fact the op listed KO as a means to win.
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Your being a hypocriate right now, you accepted the "supes wins for reans above" but i can't say the same thing but for sentry?X Heart of Steel x said:
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Also:
http://imgur.com/a/ceaPX
And Superman could technically absorb some of the bio-energy Sentry has (since it's derived from the Sun) to empower himself even further.
http://imgur.com/a/vF3HV
http://imgur.com/a/ceaPX
And Superman could technically absorb some of the bio-energy Sentry has (since it's derived from the Sun) to empower himself even further.
http://imgur.com/a/vF3HV
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sentry can just absorb it back soooo...X Heart of Steel x said:
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I'm not being a hypocrite, Sora, and I would appreciate you refraining from calling me such.
I am not arguing against the people voting for Superman. Thus, why would I post a counter to them voting for him?
Also, I never said you "couldn't" state that. I am simply arguing against your claim for stating it at all, as Sentry's feats do not compare to Superman's. Nor have scans been provided for some of Sentry's stated "abilities."
I am not arguing against the people voting for Superman. Thus, why would I post a counter to them voting for him?
Also, I never said you "couldn't" state that. I am simply arguing against your claim for stating it at all, as Sentry's feats do not compare to Superman's. Nor have scans been provided for some of Sentry's stated "abilities."
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I meant was for the people who say that supes wins due to reaons above, you fine with that, but i can't say anything for sentry?X Heart of Steel x said:
Yes they do, sentry has plenty of feats that compare.......umm why would it be on his profile if it wasn't true then?
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I knew what you meant and stated why I counted their votes.
They compare in name, not magnitude. For instance, Sentry might be in the trillions of times faster than light range, but Superman is in the sextillions of times faster than light range, despite both being titled Massively FTL+
Also, Superman has a myriad more abilities than Sentry does (some of which are listed above). Limited electromagnetism, limited space/time manipulation, etc. etc.
They compare in name, not magnitude. For instance, Sentry might be in the trillions of times faster than light range, but Superman is in the sextillions of times faster than light range, despite both being titled Massively FTL+
Also, Superman has a myriad more abilities than Sentry does (some of which are listed above). Limited electromagnetism, limited space/time manipulation, etc. etc.
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I can get the scans of sentry's powers, such you seem to doubt there existences...
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Basically what your telling us is that this is a stomp, correct?X Heart of Steel x said:
I'll refute you second point after you answer my question...
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I don't doubt them. They would just be immensely helpful to your argument.
Statements of Sentry being undefeatable unless you can time travel, for instance. (Note: Not statements of him just being "immortal." I can find a plethora of Superman statements stating the same about him).
Showings of his speed beyond sextillions of times c.
Demonstrations of his ability to kill beings who are highly resistant and downright immune to matter manipulation and soul manipulation.
Demonstrations of Sentry being immune to having his own powers taken from him through bio-energy absorption.
You get the idea. I would just like some scans to back up some of what you're stating as fact about the character.
Statements of Sentry being undefeatable unless you can time travel, for instance. (Note: Not statements of him just being "immortal." I can find a plethora of Superman statements stating the same about him).
Showings of his speed beyond sextillions of times c.
Demonstrations of his ability to kill beings who are highly resistant and downright immune to matter manipulation and soul manipulation.
Demonstrations of Sentry being immune to having his own powers taken from him through bio-energy absorption.
You get the idea. I would just like some scans to back up some of what you're stating as fact about the character.
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Your twisting my words, i never said his undefeatable unless you can time travel, it's very possible to kill sentry if you have a very good hax like Fate,Probality or Destiny manipulation
but fine if that's what you want.....
but fine if that's what you want.....
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I realize that you are going to post this feat of him killing Molecule Ma , who controls molecules. I want feats of him destroying beings who are resistant to atomic disintegration, not just molecule manipulation.
Also, I highly doubt you have an answer to every one of my above statements. Especially the speed. How is Sentry going to even register he's being attacked with speed differentials like those?
Also, I highly doubt you have an answer to every one of my above statements. Especially the speed. How is Sentry going to even register he's being attacked with speed differentials like those?
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sentry defeating Molecule Man is as legit as Superman lifting infinite tons.
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