Possible Dragon Ball Xenoverse Upgrades [ And likely Heroes ]

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

In this thread, Ryukama was given evidence that perhaps applies to Xenoverse. I shall quote it to avoid losing a lot of time.

Some user asked me to copy paste this into the thread. I'm not arguing for it or saying I agree with it. Just putting this there for the user.
"https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/764igghqPB9 Chronoa 3-A or low 2-C

If not, Demigra base is low 2-C not 4-A because he's stronger Kid Buu who destroyed a timeline with Towa's energy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7sONFCxrTk [4:30-4:45]. Which is backs up Supreme Kai of time being low 2-C since they fought long ago

https://imgur.com/a/dmIDP "Infinite History!"

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/DragonBallOnline "Seemingly *Infinite timelines*

https://imgur.com/a/vDwpS https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/CXh9MdmhsFj https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/AVWBufebghC https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/UHRqqajrBds https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/EhD7DgSY6cY https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/jM25T8iQxSp https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/NvFyxMjKqu1 https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/53BdYVttztw https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/9keefbr2owJ https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/G1QAzMHQFXM

Every other game franchise of Dragon Ball is in the DBH continuity. All the statements and feats apply. The patrollers "Infinite possibilities" also does. Because in DBH the possibilities were overlapping.

Last thing quickly, Demigra wasn't going to destroy the DBH Multiverse. It was Towa, she warped the DBH Multiverse and the "Real world" when she died, Demigra stole her powers and proceeded to collapse the DBH multiverse and the real world. So Towa should be whatever tier you guys decide to put Demigra at, because he is doing it with her powers that are his now. This was without absorbing Toki-Toki. Also, the world of void in DBH has space and time. It's a singular space-time structure that is infinite in size.

If Infinite timelines is accepted.

Toki-Toki is the embodiment of the infinite 4-D multiverse.

Demigra would become infinitely more powerful after absoribing him

EDIT: To Turbo Triangle: Beerus is stronger than Demon God Demigra, so she is not comparable to the Gods of Destruction. Since Demigra is at least 2-B"

Based on this, both Xenoverse and Heroes likely would be upgraded. Base Demigra Low 2-C, Chronoa Low 2-C, XV2 Buu Arc FW Low 2-C, and possibly XV upgraded to 2-B . I would like some thoughts on this.

 

[Dark649]

I agree about the Kid Buu feat.

 

[The_Everlasting]

>Using TvTropes as a source

You kidding?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

One mod agreeing , and being the first to respond is a good indicator. Thank you, Dark649.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

@Ever

I just copied and pasted man. Calm down. Anyways, does everything else seem accurate to you ?

 

[Dark649]

>Using TvTropes as a source.

Tv Tropes actually inderectly explains parts of a source, even most underrated ones.

 

[The_Everlasting]

"Infinite History" is just the name of a DLC and meaningless otherwise.

I don't see what the link with Android 21 is trying to prove.

I can't access the G+ scans right now.

The World of Void being infinite in size and having space-time just means it's like another space-time continuum. Someone destroying it would just be Low 2-C.

"Toki-Toki is the embodiment of the multiverse"

Literally what?

Base Demigra is expressly weaker than Mystic Gohan, and his fight with Chronoa was before she became the Supreme Kai of Time (I also can't access YouTube so rip).

I'm really not seeing anything solid here.

 

[Dark649]

Base Demigra is expressly weaker than Mystic Gohan, and his fight with Chronoa was before she became the Supreme Kai of Time (I also can't access YouTube so rip).

Demigra talking about Mystic Gohan were unused lines, not accessed or seen in the console games.

 

[The_Everlasting]

We use them, so make a CRT if you disagree.

 

[Dark649]

We use them.

Where this was decided, can you at least link me?.

 

[The_Everlasting]

It was decided for as long as his page has existed.

 

[FTW395]

Does anything remotely suggest that the reason the timeline broke was because of Kid Buu being powered up?

 

[AnonymouXOtakuX]

i have a question that has been in my mind lately. the reason you have accepted DBXV's future trunks is because he plays an important character in the games. can anyone make add a DBH key (its the same abilities, just stronger) and make pages for xeno goku, vegeta, and gohan? they are all important characters within the story, so there is no reason to say no. obviously we all know who they scale to (mainly goku and vegeta.) another question i have is why isnt there any pages for the avatars? they're basically like DBH's version of our CACS.

Edit- also wherea are the pages of DBH's version of towa, mira and dabura? they (and demigra and that old man) are the main baddies. Also what about the Dark masked king, salsa, shroom, and chamel? they all played importsnt parts.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

https://plus.google.com/105260110313954866070/posts/Zy86gQbZmMh

I think this is were the guy thought Kid Buu destroyed that timeline. Those shards in DBH are referred to as timelines BTW.

DB Fusions [ A world "Debatably" connected to XV ] Confirms that it takes the power of All Time and Space, plus a 4 way fusion to equal Beerus. That's....NASTY.

 

[The_Everlasting]

That Kid Buu "feat" is very, very wrong. It's not even really a feat.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I see... I wanted to post it anyways.

Do we dismiss Mira transcending time as an outlier ?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Close this thread.

 

[AnonymouXOtakuX]

so no one paid attention to my questions?

 

[AnonymouXOtakuX]

Close this thread.

Y?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

@AnonymouXOtakuX

That's probably because Xeno Goku is literally Goku but much stronger and slightly different story. Same for the other Xeno characters.


Although a DBH key for the rest of the character would not be a bad idea. Although I'm unsure at the moment.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. Do the rest of you think that I should close this thread?

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Someone asked me to post this for them:

Restored the multiverse

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/anW3rUqLzmW


His body in energy form resembles timelines

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/SxUNMhvbphL


Him being used in experiments caused a giant rift in time

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/8okdNiLxqHw


Controls time

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/FSrFdqasKuu


Sets time into motion

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/iaDXNTEA8eY


His eggs create time and timelines

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/M5turTxs4wj


Creates time

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/6Hcf1ikKrag


Towa said she could rule over tine and space with his egg and it gave Mira limitless power.

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/diQUfSxzaq3


Can exist beyond the multiverse and send people through time

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/FqNVfuWKtz1


Demigra controlled all of time and space after absorbing him and was going to use him to create a new multiverse

https://imgur.com/gallery/0cv3o https://imgur.com/gallery/CTC2f


Was affected by history changing

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/8RNfDdun57i


Chronoa uses his feathers to place history in the scroll

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/YdtZdzrBy1w


Proof for Toki-Toki

Credit to oilord ainsley on G+

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

So do you guys think any of these points are acceptable?

 

[AnonymouXOtakuX]

@AnonymouXOtakuX
That's probably because Xeno Goku is literally Goku but much stronger and slightly different story. Same for the other Xeno characters.


Although a DBH key for the rest of the character would not be a bad idea. Although I'm unsure at the moment.

Xeno trunks is literrally the same trunks from dbz/s the only difference is strength, nothing more, so why is he accepted if the others aren't? also if you say importance, then xeno goku is just as important as trunks within dbh, he appears everywhere is SDBH.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

That person has once again asked me to put this here:

Also regarding kid buus feat. It is a feat. Who else would have destroyed the timeline? Towa? Mira? Then their base power should be low 2-C which would still scale to Demigra. I don't understand how it "isn't really a feat" what else could have destroyed the timeline? History changing doesn't mean the timeline will explode if that's the excuse used. It was a direct and blatant feat shown.

Towas energy boosts are huge.

Frieza went from star level to galaxy level+ Hercule was stronger than Frieza who was galaxy+

The boost unlocks the targets power and potential

Edit: furthermore. Buu does have potential to reach Beerus level. When elder Kai explained how he was sealed away he said the person who sealed him away at the time wasn't as strong as Buu. Meaning 75 million years before age, Buu was stronger than Beerus. At the time, Beerus could destroy the kaioshin realm which is 1/10th of the entire macrocosm. That's a multi-galaxy+ feat and it isn't an outlier as the manga Shows that it took energy from the mortal universe AND the afterlife to kill him.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Some Scans:

https://plus.google.com/111360070266915769819/posts/E7iE7Jk32Qe

All the scans. Read the comments as well as they contain more

 

[Antvasima]

What do the rest of the staff think? Are these valid points, or should I close this thread?

 

[AnonymouXOtakuX]

why did i get ignored?

@Ant the problem with what to do is basically that this thread doesn't get much atention. before we decide or the staff decides, we first need to find people that actually comment and say why the think its valid or not

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

@AnonymouXOtakuX

I did not try to ignore you. It's just that I posted my message around the same time as your.

The thing is that the focus at the moment is not on creating profiles since that takes time. We should wait until this thread is resolved if we want to make any profiles.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Is DBF connected to Xenoverse ? If so, i remember a certain detail that may get those type of upgrades [ 2-B at least ] for XV .

 

[AnonymouXOtakuX]

@AnonymouXOtakuX
I did not try to ignore you. It's just that I posted my message around the same time as your.

The thing is that the focus at the moment is not on creating profiles since that takes time. We should wait until this thread is resolved if we want to make any profiles.

ohh, sorry

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

@AnonymouXOtakuX

No worries. It would be very neat to have more Game profiles but we can discuss those later.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Is DBF connected to Xenoverse ? If so, i remember a certain detail that may get those type of upgrades [ 2-B at least ] for XV .

I'm not sure really. It could be connected to either Heroes or Xenoverse since they have Mira and Towa but i don't know which.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I am unsure . I'll look into it, but they It said that it took the power of ALL of time and space, and a 4-way fusion to equal Beerus. That's definitely 2-B for XV if Fusions is canon .

 

[Bluetrekking]

I found some connections. [[1]] IIRC, they even mention TP Trunks

 

[AnonymouXOtakuX]

any staff want to say something? your opinions are needed.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Mentioning " Time Patrol " Trunks instead of " Xeno " Trunks make it Xenoverse... Excellent find Bluetrekking .

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

It should be easy to make XV 2-B if Dragon Ball Fusions is connected to it .

 

[AnonymouXOtakuX]

Heroes, fusions, and Xenoverse are connected, that means that there is a lot of timelines, and since demigra is conssidered 2-B and he is potentially stronger in XV than in Heroes, the time patroler should get an upgrade. Basically The connection has been establish, considering that in heroes they refrence demigra dying before (probably referring to xenoverse) and in xenoverse he should be stronger since he absorbed tokitoki, we get the reason for the upgrade. The problem is whether this is accepted or not.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I get Fusions, but how do you know for 100% certain Heroes is connected to Xenoverse ?