Possible 1-A Beyonder

[Robo432343]

Embodies the Beyonder Realm, a place beyond space, time, and all dimensions.
So he might possibly be 1-A in his realm

Does this upscale beyonder to 1-a? let me know in the comments

 

[WanderingGecko]

Why would that be a 1-A feat? And please cite the issue that the scan came from.

 

[Robo432343]

Why would that be a 1-A feat? And please cite the issue that the scan came from.

sorry bro, i saw the same scan on his powers and abilities page so i didn't need to cite the issue

 

[WanderingGecko]

Which scan on which ability exactly? You need to be a bit more specific y’know. And for CRT’s you still need to cite the sources.

 

[Robo432343]

Which scan on which ability exactly? You need to be a bit more specific y’know. And for CRT’s you still need to cite the sources.

it's the dimensional travel ability.
As for why its 1-A, beyond dimensions is 1-A, no?

 

[WanderingGecko]

Ok. You’d need to be a bit specific on how many dimensions it transcends though, and why would it be 1-A by default?

 

[Robo432343]

Ok. You’d need to be a bit specific on how many dimensions it transcends though, and why would it be 1-A by default?

ah yeah, mb

 

[Robo432343]

im pretty sure the beyonder realm is bigger than than the entire multiverse

 

[Robo432343]

here
now all i need to do is find someone who has the issue lmao

 

[Excellence616]

here
now all i need to do is find someone who has the issue lmao

Link not working

 

[Robo432343]

Link not working

try this one

 

[Robo432343]

Ok. You’d need to be a bit specific on how many dimensions it transcends though, and why would it be 1-A by default?

wait that scan is talking about how it transcends all dimensions entirely, not a specific number. like, its literally called the 'beyond realm' so there's no surprise its beyond the entirety of dimensions

 

[Gasper]

Ermm nah, those "dimensions" are (in the context of this specific comic) refering to universes. It's just saying he is outside the multiverse. That's all.

 

[WanderingGecko]

wait that scan is talking about how it transcends all dimensions entirely, not a specific number. like, its literally called the 'beyond realm' so there's no surprise its beyond the entirety of dimensions

Yeah how many dimensions are in the Marvel multiverse currently? And looking at the context, it’s only referring to the universes in Marvel not actual spatial dimensions.

 

[Yusuf21259]

If we separate the pre-Retcon Beyonder from the current current lineup, it's probably more powerful than an infinite dimensional multiverse, and even the highest-level beings in it are far more powerful than those who didn't fully transcend the concept of dimension at the time. More than just high1-b, only this support for low 1-a. There is no support for 1-a, probably even 1-a is at the mercy of the wiki My view is to combine the post - pre concept with the omega Beyonder, the new profile of the current series.

 

[Robo432343]

Yeah how many dimensions are in the Marvel multiverse currently? And looking at the context, it’s only referring to the universes in Marvel not actual spatial dimensions.

the first one or the second one? because it doesn't make sense for the 1st scan to be talking about universes

 

[Sqiizn]

The Marvel Multiverse is a hyper-high structure , and You need to prove interdimensional superiority And every dimension is a fantasy in another dimension, and if it is separated by space-time, then it is multiversal +

Also The word dimensions has different meanings, times they come in geometric/physical dimensions and again they come in the context of alternate universes or worlds.

 

[Quantu]

PRB is not outerversal

 

[Robo432343]

he might be 1-a in beyond realm

 

[Quantu]

he IS the beyond realm, aka, Infinite Dimensional. No two ways about it I'm afraid. He doesn't scale to current cosmology

 

[Robo432343]

he IS the beyond realm, aka, Infinite Dimensional. No two ways about it I'm afraid. He doesn't scale to current cosmology

the beyond realm was stated to be beyond all dimensions and yet he was stated to be infinite dimensional. or am i missing something here

 

[Sqiizn]

the beyond realm was stated to be beyond all dimensions and yet he was stated to be infinite dimensional. or am i missing something here

All scans that you give It gives him High hyperversal lol , and you need to prove interdimensional superiority And every dimension is a fantasy in another dimension

 

[Gasper]

Here https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2d46c576b8231660a6b8cfea163b0fef-lq he is talking about "adjacent dimensions" which are not superior in any way.

 

[the_doctor]

I think, beyonder will 1A because he transcend eternity and living tribunal

 

[Gasper]

I think, beyonder will 1A because he transcend eternity and living tribunal

You mean the new one from defenders comic?

 

[the_doctor]

You mean the new one from defenders comic?

No, pre retcon version and scale to all living tribunal and eternity feats

 

[Gasper]

No, pre retcon version and scale to all living tribunal and eternity feats

Seventh cosmos and living tribunal aren't 1-A currently. Nevermind that beyonder was outright stated to be infinite dimensional being and not beyond dimensional being.

 

[the_doctor]

Seventh cosmos and living tribunal aren't 1-A currently. Nevermind that beyonder was outright stated to be infinite dimensional being and not beyond dimensional being.

they are outer with new feats, The mean, eternity contained new realm there and living tribunal above tribunal but now eternity above

 

[the_doctor]

Seventh cosmos and living tribunal aren't 1-A currently. Nevermind that beyonder was outright stated to be infinite dimensional being and not beyond dimensional being.

Only when he fused with the beyond realm, that outside of time and space but in his form he is infinite dimension being.

 

[Gasper]

they are outer with new feats, The mean, eternity contained new realm there and living tribunal above tribunal but now eternity above

Yes, new feats from the new cosmology sure. They should get separate keys for that though. Pre-retcon beyonder is just a child while the omega beyonder or the new beyonder or fully grown. So i can see him being full on 1-A now.

 

[Gasper]

Only when he fused with the beyond realm, that outside of time and space but in his form he is infinite dimension being.

Beyond realm is only above the multiverse/the seventh cosmos and time and space. He was never stated to be beyond dimensions.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

You'd have to hope that those Eras Beyonder are in have 1-A Feats for the Cosmic Entities that don't rely on using other Eras b/c that entire point will be destroyed.

 

[the_doctor]

Ya, prestasi baru dari kosmologi baru tentunya. Mereka harus mendapatkan kunci terpisah untuk itu. Beyonder pre-retcon hanyalah seorang anak sedangkan omega beyonder atau beyonder baru atau sudah dewasa. Jadi saya bisa melihat dia penuh pada 1-A sekarang.

yes for this Wiki of course

 

[Gasper]

yes for this Wiki of course

I mean... sure. What is your reasoning for pre-retcon beyonder being 1-A?

 

[the_doctor]

Maksudku... tentu. Apa alasan Anda untuk pre-retcon beyonder menjadi 1-A?

I already answered that before dude

 

[the_doctor]

Beyond realm is only above the multiverse/the seventh cosmos and time and space. He was never stated to be beyond dimensions.

Ouh yes, i forget he just beyond space and time and Multiverse

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

You would have to prove it's beyond its concept of space & time entirely, not just a higher level above the Multiverse

 

[Gasper]

I already answered that before dude

You just said he scales to current eternity and tribunal. Pre-retcon dosen't scale to present cosmology at all.

 

[Gasper]

You would have to prove it's beyond its concept of space & time entirely, not just a higher level above the Multiverse

I mean, multi eternity is stated be be literal personification of space and time itself. And both exist inside of him as well.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

That... is unfortunately nowhere near enough. 1-A has very strict qualifications for how to qualify for it.