Please don't be stomp - Cioccolata vs Kishin Asura

[Seventy96]

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Speed equalized if needed

Cioccolata


Gren Day


Kishin Asura

 

[Kyschan21]

>has telekinesis that can pin down people equal to him

>passive madness that makes people his followers

Cioccolata kind of gets stomped here, hard

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Nah, because stand users start with their stands summoned, and Green Day is passive. As we saw with both Iggy and Pro, as long as you are alive, you can keep your stand summoned, and as long as greenday is summoned, the effects are passive. I am gonna vote inconclusive. Madness more often just generally drives people insane, and does not necesarilly force them to be his followers. Cio is gonna get passively madnessed haxed into incapacitation or illusions, meanwhile Kishin like lowers his stance slightly and gets mold haxed to incapacitate, but his type 8 won't let him actually die. For these reasons, they both get stuck perpetually by eachother's passive hax, and for these reasons, I vote Inconclusive

 

[Kyschan21]

Depends on how much he uses that telekinesis. If he uses it a bunch of pin people down, he could restrict Cioccolata more than easily and just tap him and make him explode with that massive AP difference. And assuming SBA, they'd both be in Central Park, so I don't see Kishin going down at any point without being able to heal with black blood. And his madness manipulation seems to have 3 effects with it having "passively" in its explanation, which each effects seeming like they'd put Cioccolata out immediately. Also, about Stands always being summoned, the user has to be conscious as well, and Green Day isn't passive in the way that once Cioccolata goes unconscious, its effects are still in use. Once he's out, so is Green Day.

So I'd say with Kishin's black blood, immortality, massive AP advantage, and passive abilities, he'd probably stomp. Only chance I see for Cioccolata is to start in his helicopter, in the air, out of Kishin's range.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

One of the experts can correct my if I'm wrong, but from what I have seen he opens with his Dark Arts and CQC. He would need to actually manage to tap him tho, and being in the range of green day, that's a big no. The way he fights, he often lowers his stance to attack, which as we have seen, is enough to fall victim to green day. Central Park is also very hilly, so that is definitely possible he will move down. Green Day's effects are also passive, so his madness being passive just means they both go down. No, stands don't have to have the user concious to be summoned. We saw this from both the fool still being active while iggy was seemingly unconcious, and we had HG being active while Kak was knocked out, which is actually a major part of the Death 13 fight. As long as Green day is summoned when he goes down, it will stay summoned.

Black Blood doesn't matter since he gets passively taken out, immortality just stops him from dying, but he still gets incapacitated, and this is a hax fight more than an AP fight so the advantage doesn't matter. Kishin's range is planetary with madness hax, so that wouldn't actually help much either. Speaking of which, Cio needs a helicopter added to his standard equipment

 

[Kyschan21]

It actually is quite important that the Stand user stays concious for their Stand to stay active. Only reason The Fool was still active was because Iggy was still concious and using all the strength he had left to save Polnareff. As for Death 13, the Stands are only active in the Dream World, never has Kakyoin shown that HG can appear in the real world during that fight.

And it wouldn't be that hard for Kishin to notice that lowering his stance is starting to cause the mold effect, especially with how slow it is unless someone is decreasing height extremely fast or really far. And he'd be in Green Day's range for the majority of the fight anyways, not like him suddenly getting closer to Cioccolata means he's doomed.

Kishin's passive is definitely more effective that Green Day's passive and will surely get Cioccolata before Cioccolata can incap Kishin

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Are you sure he was awake? if i recall he seemed to be passed out. I never claimed it appeared in the real world, just that stands can remain active as long as the user has it summoned when they get knocked out.

Considering how fast he moves, I don't think he would last long. Don't forget that it just took a guy moving like a step or two down to get his legs rotted off.

It being more effective doesn't matter when they both go down anyway.

 

[Seventy96]

So, inconclusive?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Yee

 

[Seventy96]

Green Day:

Asura:

Thunder Mcqueen: 1 (Iapitus The Impaler)

 

[Seventy96]

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