Phantasmal King No Face vs Rimuru Tempest

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Both of these characters are really smart, with interesting abilities, and similar fighting styles, was too good for me to pass this up, even though i like them both.

Both are 6-C
Speed equalized
Who wins?
Shalltear: 1
Rimuru:
Inconclusive:
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[Worthless]

Rimuru has no way of touching her even if speed equalize due to her hax Except for his passive that she probably can resist. While Alice has no way of dealing High regeneration of rimuru

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

I mean, Alice does have sealing.

 

[Worthless]

And so rimuru. tho not sure if he could hit her with it. since she's a squishy one with her probability hax. Also seems his passive is nonexistence in his 6-C key.

Voting for alice via sealing.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

She does also have causality hax, which can make attacks not hit her, and her attacks always hit, since all the Six Kings have it.

1 for Alice.

 

[Makenai]

Is all of her ability magic based? She does have many hax but little to no resistance, Anti-magic barrier could prevents her from using any magic based ability which spans for kilometers.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Her abilities are magic based, however i don't think Ant-magic barrier will do anything to Hekatonkheires, once that's activate fate and probability will make it so she grasp victory, it's a bit busted.

This match has a lot to do with the character's intellect, you have Rimuru with Great Sage analyzing Alice, and then Alice who is not only so smart she can tell what abilities are used on her when seeing it for the first time, but also can figure out how her opponents fight, and also can analyze them too.

Alice's fighting style is basically analyzing her opponent and then fighting based on that, when up against ppl like Kuro and Eden, she instantly figured out how powerful they were, then instantly used Hekatonkheires.

In addition Alice has a lot of combat experience, hundreds of thousands of years worth, and can quickly detect danger and respond to it, not to mention being able to react faster than she can think.

 

[Makenai]

In later volume it is revealed why Skills can still be used in Anti-magic barrier, you can use your ability if you interfere with reality directly without using magic, so skills like Shion's fate/causality manip and reality warping could still work since she doesnt use magic as a tool to manipulate that.

That being said anything involves magic are useless even if its fate manipulation bacause it directly overwrite the law where's "magic can interfere with orders and law of world" to "magic cannot interfere with order and law of world" hence anti magic barrier classifies as Law Manipulation.

So i don't think there's exception unless she resist law manipulation. Also Rimuru still have radiation here.

Rimuru didnt resist info analysis in this key? Didn't anti-magic mask makes him look like a normal human?

 

[Worthless]

Let's say he manage to cancel her trump card .. but she still, can naturally control the law of casualty. Thus anything rimuru throw will not hit and Anything she throws will certainly hit rimuru. While he can't hit alice, she just need to get out from that anti-magic area and start spamming her clones till rimuru mana went to zero

(Also It later revealed that by default the six king can revive themselves by controlling the law of causality, this is not something they gain in current chapter it's already there even before the ch.1 was published)

 

[Bernkastelll]

Isnt this a stomp? What Rimuru can do?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Probably.

And to think i thought this would be more even, than if say i used Isis Remnant, who has mind + fear + death hax more potent than empathetic hax that affected an entire planet.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Probably.

And to think i thought this would be more even, than if say i used Isis Remnant, who has mind + fear + death hax more potent than empathetic hax that affected an entire planet.

Yeh, this is def a stomp

 

[Makenai]

Let's say he manage to cancel her trump card .. but she still, can naturally control the law of casualty. Thus anything rimuru throw will not hit and Anything she throws will certainly hit rimuru. While he can't hit alice, she just need to get out from that anti-magic area and start spamming her clones till rimuru mana went to zero

(Also It later revealed that by default the six king can revive themselves by controlling the law of causality, this is not something they gain in current chapter it's already there even before the ch.1 was published)

If controlling the law of causality is magic based then it get nulled in Anti-magic area.

 

[Worthless]

If controlling the law of causality is magic based then it get nulled in Anti-magic area.I

It's not . Six kings can naturally control causality, to dodge, attack and resurrect

 

[Makenai]

I see if its not magic then there's no way Rimuru beating her.

 

[Worthless]

There is obviously a way, like his sealing. but he had to hit her which is gonna be hard due to her causality and probability hax

 

[Bernkastelll]

There is obviously a way, like his sealing. but he had to hit her which is gonna be hard due to her causality and probability hax

So, stomp, literally, she is a character that has a lot of things, when rimuru only chance is sealing, but he will miss 99% of the times due her probability hax