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I like how the scaling for the persona characters are but i highly doubt that it's accurate to make claims such as Izanami should be stronger than the end game phantom thieves and stuff like that wbich how do you prove that when the phantom thieves never fought izanami but they did fight yaldabaoth who could reality warp on a universal+ level. You also put for izanami that she is stronger than the velvet room attendants who can stomp people that can harm the holy grail; my problem is comparing characters who weren't even in the same game and situations and tryna make it sound accurate. I don't believe that velvet room attendants would stomp the phantom thieves especially right after they left the room to fignt the angels than yaldy. Plus joker waa able to survive a 2v1 from caroline and justine without any help plus it waa before he awakened to his full power, also don't sleep on lavenza just because she one pf tbe youngest attendants caroline and Justine obviously prove to be quite formidable even im their unfused forms