Parasyte - Small Upgrade

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Looks fine to me

 

[Vizmer]

Looks fine to me

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[Ezaru]

I already addressed this there is not point on me repeating myself.

Why would an old who is gardening his plants even care about him running fast? In fact, he just began running, and the 4 panels on that page take place inside the hotel, so he would have no way of accurately noticing his speed because he was distracted and Shinichi just began running. I already provided other statements regarding his speed.

I already addressed the speeds.

Idk man I read the thread, I guess I just disagree

I don't see anything showing the cars were going at the high speeds you mentioned

Because if he was moving at like, superhuman speeds I'd prolly lose my shit

 

[thedaymare]

Idk man I read the thread, I guess I just disagree

I don't see anything showing the cars were going at the high speeds you mentioned

Because if he was moving at like, superhuman speeds I'd prolly lose my shit

Indeed, that would be the normal thing if anyone saw somebody running at superhuman speed.

The manga is also full of expressions and reactions, when the author/mangaka wants to show a feat, he uses the basic tools to do so, like showing people surprised, amazed or impressed. The manga has done so with lesser things, so why not with the only supposedly superhuman speed feat?

Examples:

Spoiler: Manga Panels

Aside from that, there's one more accurate and irrefutable speed feat, and that is the 100-metre dash on the school's gym class.


He manages to run it in 10.5 seconds, but claims to be able to do it in 9 seconds with ease. The men's world record is 9.58 seconds, set by Jamaica's Usain Bolt in 2009. That would put him in Peak Human speed, even if we say 9 seconds. Notice everyone's reaction too to the 100-meter speed feat, weirdly enough nobody reacted when he supposedly ran at superhuman speeds on the road, so it is highly unlikely he ran any faster.

 

[Vizmer]

Idk man I read the thread, I guess I just disagree

I don't see anything showing the cars were going at the high speeds you mentioned

Because if he was moving at like, superhuman speeds I'd prolly lose my shit

I already addressed, you are just saying I do not believe it because there isn't a full on ******** my pants reaction when it is only 1 manga panel with the car, and a brief interaction with the driver in the anime. You are basically just ignoring the other statements that add to his speed.

 

[Dalesean027]

Indeed, that would be the normal thing if anyone saw somebody running at superhuman speed.

The manga is also full of expressions and reactions, when the author/mangaka wants to show a feat, he uses the basic tools to do so, like showing people surprised, amazed or impressed. The manga has done so with lesser things, so why not with the only supposedly superhuman speed feat?

Examples:

Spoiler: Manga Panels

Aside from that, there's one more accurate and irrefutable speed feat, and that is the 100-metre dash on the school's gym class.


He manages to run it in 10.5 seconds, but claims to be able to do it in 9 seconds with ease. The men's world record is 9.58 seconds, set by Jamaica's Usain Bolt in 2009. That would put him in Peak Human speed, even if we say 9 seconds. Notice everyone's reaction too to the 100-meter speed feat, weirdly enough nobody reacted when he supposedly ran at superhuman speeds on the road, so it is highly unlikely he ran any faster.

If you agree to that then you agree with the OP he mentions is very casual for him to be able to run at 40kmh which means if he tries harder he can run much faster as the OP has said 60kmh which fits the road the guy is on

 

[Vizmer]

Indeed, that would be the normal thing if anyone saw somebody running at superhuman speed.

The manga is also full of expressions and reactions, when the author/mangaka wants to show a feat, he uses the basic tools to do so, like showing people surprised, amazed or impressed. The manga has done so with lesser things, so why not with the only supposedly superhuman speed feat?

Same with this, "what people did not react!!" argument which we already went over. In fact, when Migi was trying to explain to Shinichi about his running and jumping, he told him to shut up. Later Migi talks about the changes that both were undergoing. There were other things that he was worrying about instead of him noticing his speed. Additionally, those chapters focus about shinichi losing his emotions and him new superhuman abilities.

He manages to run it in 10.5 seconds, but claims to be able to do it in 9 seconds with ease. The men's world record is 9.58 seconds, set by Jamaica's Usain Bolt in 2009. That would put him in Peak Human speed, even if we say 9 seconds. Notice everyone's reaction too to the 100-meter speed feat, weirdly enough nobody reacted when he supposedly ran at superhuman speeds on the road, so it is highly unlikely he ran any faster.

I can see that you pretty much going in circles, so this won't get anywhere.

 

[thedaymare]

I already addressed, you are just saying I do not believe it because there isn't a full on ******** my pants reaction when it is only 1 manga panel with the car, and a brief interaction with the driver in the anime. You are basically just ignoring the other statements that add to his speed.

I mean not only the driver was not impressed but neither the old guy on the same manga panel, don't you find that strange? While all other times he did something unusual, lesser but still possible for other humans, people are impressed? The statements are a little weak not to say vague, or highly unlikely giving the conditions.

If you agree to that then you agree with the OP he mentions is very casual for him to be able to run at 40kmh which means if he tries harder he can run much faster as the OP has said 60kmh which fits the road the guy is on

If he tries harder, he could run faster but by how much? We don't know that, in a 100-metre dash, even milliseconds can make the difference, so even if he manages to break the record at 8.50 seconds, he still stays at Peak Human speed, he would need 8 seconds to barely make it, but that would be a stretch since it's just based on
presumption, the real feat is just 10.5 seconds, while we can grant the 9 seconds stated, but anything below that would be just assumption.

 

[Dalesean027]

9 seconds stated, but anything below that would be just assumption

Literally not an assumption when he quite literally says he can EASILY run it in 9 seconds which means if he tried harder he can easily go much faster

 

[thedaymare]

Literally not an assumption when he quite literally says he can EASILY run it in 9 seconds which means if he tried harder he can easily go much faster

The assumption would be by how much, not if.

 

[Vizmer]

I mean not only the driver was not impressed but neither the old guy on the same manga panel, don't you find that strange? While all other times he did something unusual, lesser but still possible for other humans, people are impressed?

Argument by repetition.

The statements are a little weak not to say vague, or highly unlikely giving the conditions.

Given the condition? Are you forgetting the chapter's intent?

If he tries harder, he could run faster but by how much?

We already went over this as to how fast he would given where he is. At least 40mph

 

[thedaymare]

Argument by repetition.

Given the condition? Are you forgetting the chapter's intent?

Exactly, if author had the intent to show a feat he would have illustrated it better like all other times in the manga except this exact one.

We already went over this as to how fast he would given where he is. At least 40mph

You mean 40 kmph? That would still be Peak Human.

 

[Chariot190]

Tell that to the OP, as I mentioned I just use mph for reference on that end and cited all his posts about MPH, you just chose to ignore them it seems.

How is it OP's fault you dont know what a kilometer is?

Not really, is actually common for speedline on the manga, even while standing, you can check it, can provide a manga panel too.

Cool, im talking about THIS manga, not romcom slop.

A car that is driving slowly, sure

Prove it is, burden on you.

Ok I will never drive, thanks for advice, never ever.

Yep.

False. You can exceed any human speed before you and still be peak human speed. If you exceed Usain Bolt speed by 1 kmph, you are still peak human speed.

"The dude who is hard confirmed to beable to do 40kmh easily, while trying, overtakes a vehicle that would be going 40kmh, but nah all that shit fake, normal run speed".

You are acting like you got your feeling hurt for a reason

Im just super confused as to how you even thought this argument was gonna fly.
There's debating and then there's being a nuisance, falling pretty firmly in the latter there.

He is above all other human in speed, same as Shinichi. Shinichi was never stated or implied go be above human.

He is LITERALLY stated to be faster than any human like 10 times.

Ok will never do it

Thank god.

1. It can be interpreted.

NO IT CANT ITS THE LAW

2. Minimun speed was only mentioned and specified at the expressway.

YOURE MEANT TO FOLLOW

Indeed, that would be the normal thing if anyone saw somebody running at superhuman speed.

Which he is because that's his stated speed.

The manga is also full of expressions and reactions, when the author/mangaka wants to show a feat, he uses the basic tools to do so, like showing people surprised, amazed or impressed. The manga has done so with lesser things, so why not with the only supposedly superhuman speed feat?

Literally what the hell are you talking about?

This is straight up coping.

For him to be running at normal ass speeds, the vehicle would have to be moving at an absurd like 5kmh.
We would also have to arbitrarily assume that a look of confusion somehow doesn't count toward an expression, because apparently the only thing that matters here is expressions, and ALSO assume that some kid running faster than the fastest humans ever by a large degree isn't enough to warrant any sort of reaction because regardless of your argument, he would, no matter what, be running at speeds that eclipse humanity, including the very panels below, in which he WOULD be running faster than in this instance, and it's ONLY at speeds that overtake a standard moving vehicle, that should wrarant such a thing.

Examples:

Spoiler: Manga Panels

Aside from that, there's one more accurate and irrefutable speed feat, and that is the 100-metre dash on the school's gym class.


He manages to run it in 10.5 seconds, but claims to be able to do it in 9 seconds with ease. The men's world record is 9.58 seconds, set by Jamaica's Usain Bolt in 2009. That would put him in Peak Human speed, even if we say 9 seconds. Notice everyone's reaction too to the 100-meter speed feat, weirdly enough nobody reacted when he supposedly ran at superhuman speeds on the road, so it is highly unlikely he ran any faster.

And you just proved why your entire argument is absolutely asinine. Shinichi can easily run 40kmh. The 100m dash in 9 seconds is 40kmh.
This is essentially a stated speed value, he can do so without issue, he's also stated way faster than any human.

Yet this entire goddamn thread you've done nothing but argue absolute absurdities like the car going a meager 5km because Shinichi had to be running at normal run speed there, even though we LITERALLY have statements saying his ass is as fast, without issue, easily in fact, the proposed by law speed of the car in that scene.

He was actively trying in the road scene, your entire argument is absolute insanity. "nobody reacted", yet by the logic you're going with, they'd have reacted ANYWAY because his ass was running than faster than Usain Bolt and he'd be running quicker than in the scene his friends reacted. You're literally just arbitrarily assuming when they should and shouldnt react with extreme exasperated expressions. Ignoring the track team is going to give a hell of a lot more of a **** about his run speed and are actively trying to figure it out instead of just a glance, why is Shinichi being fatser than any human ever ok to just be confused for, but no if he's faster than any human ever but a lil moreso, NOW they MUST react in extreme ways?

While ignoring the metric fuckton of evidence to the contrary.

Exactly, if author had the intent to show a feat he would have illustrated it better like all other times in the manga except this exact one.

I do not believe for a second you've actually read the manga given your insistence at numerous points of various things that were never true.

You mean 40 kmph? That would still be Peak Human.

Straight up says he can do so easily. It is not a problem.
We have a scene where he overtakes a vehicle at that exact same speed he's stated to easily do, which despite the extreme amounts of coping and ignorance, would be 40kmh, which he can easily do.

Literally think for ONE SECOND before continuing your absurd yapping that seems to change every time your open your mouth.

 

[Vizmer]

Exactly, if author had the intent to show a feat he would have illustrated it better like all other times in the manga except this exact one.

I am going to keep repeating myself. The chapter's was to showcase Shinichi's superhuman abilities. I already posted others reacting to it.

You mean 40 kmph? That would still be Peak Human.

Did I say kmph?

 

[Vizmer]

I will say this again Shinichi is in Izu, Japan. And I found the speed limit there. From momondo:https://www.momondo.com/car-rental/Izu-58511

"The speed limit in Izu is 40 mph, unless otherwise stated on road signs. Izu also has a suburban speed limit of 50 mph which is strictly enforced. If you find yourself on a highway in Izu, be aware that the speed limit is generally 75 mph."

That is why I am using 40mph.

 

[Chariot190]

I will say this again Shinichi is in Izu, Japan. And I found the speed limit there. From momondo:https://www.momondo.com/car-rental/Izu-58511

"The speed limit in Izu is 40 mph, unless otherwise stated on road signs. Izu also has a suburban speed limit of 50 mph which is strictly enforced. If you find yourself on a highway in Izu, be aware that the speed limit is generally 75 mph."

That is why I am using 40mph.

It's 40kmh. 40mph is evidently just a typo given it's written by an american or something. As all the values listed, are accurate, if it was kmh.

 

[Vizmer]

It's 40kmh. 40mph is evidently just a typo given it's written by an american or something. As all the values listed, are accurate, if it was kmh.

As for the 75mph I found that. Izu is located in the Shizuoka Prefecture, Japan, so it could be referring to that.

"Japan has raised its speed limit to 120 kph (75 mph) on two major expressways, the highest maximum that has ever been allowed in the country. The high-speed zones span a 50-kilometer section of the Shin-Tomei Expressway between in Shizuoka Prefecture and a 27-kilometer section of the Tohoku Expressway in Iwate Prefecture."

NIHON LIFE: Japan raises speed limit to 75 mph

Japan has raised its speed limit to 120 kph (75 mph) on two major expressways, the highest maximum that has ever been allowed in the country. The high-speed zones span a 50-kilometer section of the…

japanesenostalgiccar.com

For the 50mph one and 40mph could be:

typically in rural and remote areas, have 70 km/h (43.5 mph) for simplified division such as guide posts and 80 km/h (49.71 mph) with physical separation.

However, that aside, yeah it could also be a typo.

 

[Ezaru]

I already addressed, you are just saying I do not believe it because there isn't a full on ******** my pants reaction when it is only 1 manga panel with the car, and a brief interaction with the driver in the anime. You are basically just ignoring the other statements that add to his speed.

Because, like, the feat is already relying on assumptions about car speed due to speed limits and shit, so the fact that there also isn't a great reaction implies they aren't actually moving that fast

Indeed, that would be the normal thing if anyone saw somebody running at superhuman speed.

The manga is also full of expressions and reactions, when the author/mangaka wants to show a feat, he uses the basic tools to do so, like showing people surprised, amazed or impressed. The manga has done so with lesser things, so why not with the only supposedly superhuman speed feat?

Examples:

Spoiler: Manga Panels

Aside from that, there's one more accurate and irrefutable speed feat, and that is the 100-metre dash on the school's gym class.


He manages to run it in 10.5 seconds, but claims to be able to do it in 9 seconds with ease. The men's world record is 9.58 seconds, set by Jamaica's Usain Bolt in 2009. That would put him in Peak Human speed, even if we say 9 seconds. Notice everyone's reaction too to the 100-meter speed feat, weirdly enough nobody reacted when he supposedly ran at superhuman speeds on the road, so it is highly unlikely he ran any faster.

As I said above

No issue with that speed feat, I don't care about the verse in a biased way or anything, I just dont think the other feats seem good

 

[Robo432343]

arguments against the op are very weak
"it just looks like" "i just dont think" arguments
very poor

 

[Chariot190]

As for the 75mph I found that. Izu is located in the Shizuoka Prefecture, Japan, so it could be referring to that.

"Japan has raised its speed limit to 120 kph (75 mph) on two major expressways, the highest maximum that has ever been allowed in the country. The high-speed zones span a 50-kilometer section of the Shin-Tomei Expressway between in Shizuoka Prefecture and a 27-kilometer section of the Tohoku Expressway in Iwate Prefecture."

NIHON LIFE: Japan raises speed limit to 75 mph

Japan has raised its speed limit to 120 kph (75 mph) on two major expressways, the highest maximum that has ever been allowed in the country. The high-speed zones span a 50-kilometer section of the…

japanesenostalgiccar.com

For the 50mph one and 40mph could be:

typically in rural and remote areas, have 70 km/h (43.5 mph) for simplified division such as guide posts and 80 km/h (49.71 mph) with physical separation.

However, that aside, yeah it could also be a typo.

70 and 120 is for major stuff like freeways, expressways, highspeed lanes, whatever. Normal urban street is just 40kmh though. Basically just a normal city street. Where Shinichi is, wouldn't be near any of the high speed city-connecting lanes or highways and what not, he's just kinda in the middle of town and dashes along the coast.

Because, like, the feat is already relying on assumptions about car speed due to speed limits and shit, so the fact that there also isn't a great reaction implies they aren't actually moving that fast

Do you not know how this wiki works? This is the DEFAULT assumption.
He's literally, no matter what, moving at speeds quicker than any human.

This whole argument falls apart when even if the car was moving like 10kmh, which is basically illegal, he'd be still be moving about as fast as the 10.5 second dash that illicited such reactions.

That's not withstanding he's actually trying there so he'd be moving well beyond any human anyway, which, would even be quicker than the scene that illicited such reactions.

Do you not realize for this argument to make sense, Shinichi would have to be actively running below his casual run speed which is stated to exceed literally any human and below even his actively holding back 100m dash, for the reaction argument to have any merit whatsover?

No issue with that speed feat, I don't care about the verse in a biased way or anything, I just dont think the other feats seem good

That very feat define simultaneously proves why your very argument is bad.
He can easily hit 40kmh, says so himself, yet somehow, he's moving way slower while trying because a confused dude driving his car didn't react the same way as a bunch of his friends and jocks actively testing his speed?

The only way Shinichi could outpace the car, while it also being slow, is if it was moving at a meager illegal 5kmh. Evidently it wasn't given it has speed lines. Otherwise he's running at speeds, at minimum, around values that exceed any human and thus must warrant a exasperated reaction because he got a big reaction in this other scene with a different context because the values about the same. All while ignoring the fact he runs faster than all humans (so he should be getting a reaction right?), and the proposed car speed by his OWN word of mouth.

And you're saying this, while ignoring speed laws, lack of reason to slow down, actual facts like speeding being the norm, and just a whole extra topping of shit that invalidates that argument.

This argument is so bad holy shit. Burden of proof is on you, simply affirming it could be, isn't proof. Reactions don't hold up especially when you take into account perceived viewing.

 

[Doggo]

Chariot is right lol

 

[Vizmer]

70 and 120 is for major stuff like freeways, expressways, highspeed lanes, whatever. Normal urban street is just 40kmh though. Basically just a normal city street. Where Shinichi is, wouldn't be near any of the high speed city-connecting lanes or highways and what not, he's just kinda in the middle of town and dashes along the coast.

Makes senses.
I was looking at the previous history of the page and he already had super human movement. I am not sure why it got changed.

Shinichi Izumi

Shinichi is the protagonist of both the manga and anime series Parasyte. His right hand becomes infected with an alien parasite named Migi. Although Migi had originally intended to control Shinichi's mind the two learn they must cooperate in order to survive the threat of other parasites. Migi...

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[Vizmer]

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[Ezaru]

70 and 120 is for major stuff like freeways, expressways, highspeed lanes, whatever. Normal urban street is just 40kmh though. Basically just a normal city street. Where Shinichi is, wouldn't be near any of the high speed city-connecting lanes or highways and what not, he's just kinda in the middle of town and dashes along the coast.

Do you not know how this wiki works? This is the DEFAULT assumption.
He's literally, no matter what, moving at speeds quicker than any human.

This whole argument falls apart when even if the car was moving like 10kmh, which is basically illegal, he'd be still be moving about as fast as the 10.5 second dash that illicited such reactions.

That's not withstanding he's actually trying there so he'd be moving well beyond any human anyway, which, would even be quicker than the scene that illicited such reactions.

Do you not realize for this argument to make sense, Shinichi would have to be actively running below his casual run speed which is stated to exceed literally any human and below even his actively holding back 100m dash, for the reaction argument to have any merit whatsover?

That very feat define simultaneously proves why your very argument is bad.
He can easily hit 40kmh, says so himself, yet somehow, he's moving way slower while trying because a confused dude driving his car didn't react the same way as a bunch of his friends and jocks actively testing his speed?

The only way Shinichi could outpace the car, while it also being slow, is if it was moving at a meager illegal 5kmh. Evidently it wasn't given it has speed lines. Otherwise he's running at speeds, at minimum, around values that exceed any human and thus must warrant a exasperated reaction because he got a big reaction in this other scene with a different context because the values about the same. All while ignoring the fact he runs faster than all humans (so he should be getting a reaction right?), and the proposed car speed by his OWN word of mouth.

And you're saying this, while ignoring speed laws, lack of reason to slow down, actual facts like speeding being the norm, and just a whole extra topping of shit that invalidates that argument.

This argument is so bad holy shit. Burden of proof is on you, simply affirming it could be, isn't proof. Reactions don't hold up especially when you take into account perceived viewing.

Using the 100 meter dash to put it at 40 km/h seems like that should just be the feat to use then

That is still superhuman

And it is way more solid than the car imo

Even the anime makes the car look slow:

 

[Chariot190]

Using the 100 meter dash to put it at 40 km/h seems like that should just be the feat to use then

No, it just proves how bad the "lmao he's only running at human" speed is.

That is still superhuman

Surely you realize superhuman consists of multiple values.

And it is way more solid than the car imo

And yet it doesn't take away from the fact that car feat is still a legitimate feat.

You realize a dude can have multiple feats yes?

Even the anime makes the car look slow:

Amazing, ignoring the fact we're not using the anime over the manga(actually though, do you really think the intent in the scene in the manga is that the car was moving at an illegally slow speed?), and the anime just doubles down on the argument given the location would be a place they'd hover around 40kmh, it isn't slow, at all, that just looks like standard urban speed? Have you people never drove a car before?

There's no way you're repeating the arguments from like 100 posts ago and ignoring the metric fuckton of contrary evidence.

If you can not prove or give actual evidence that suggests the car would not be moving at the standard urban speed per area regulations, just stop, actually, you're doing nothing but wasting time.

 

[Dalesean027]

If you can not prove or give actual evidence that suggests the car would not be moving at the standard urban speed per area regulations, just stop, actually, you're doing nothing but wasting time

Literally this

 

[Robo432343]

why we even entertaining these arguments
does anyone here have ping powers to call staff members

 

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[Jeeeeepil123]

Ah yes, "small upgrade".
Seriously, this is a clear cut Superhuman feat, why even bother make an argument against it?

 

[Vizmer]

Ah yes, "small upgrade".
Seriously, this is a clear cut Superhuman feat, why even bother make an argument against it?

I have no idea bro

 

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[Robo432343]

did you try messaging mods

 

[Vizmer]

did you try messaging mods

doing it rn