Parasyte - Small Upgrade

[thedaymare]

Burden of proof is on you to prove it isn't. Speed limits exist, most hover around it, being notably lower being the default assumption isn't how this works. Why would it be lower? It's the middle of a road, said road is long, there's nobody really around or in the way, it's the only car on the street, it isn't at a turn, the dude ain't slowing to stop, etc.

There is, quite literally, no reason for him to be going notably below the speed limit.

They actually go slightly above the limit on average. This is a whole lot of nothing dude. The assumption is "the general speed driving here is this, ergo-", you, yourself, is actively making extra assumptions that aren't implicated at all in the context.

In fact, apparently it's common for them to go over 14kmh over the limit in 40kmh-specified locales, and is often practiced in Izu 50 to 55 km/h (31 to 34 mph) on roads with a 40 km/h limit.

Of course it can be lower, usually on winding roads or in the mountains, but neither apply here.

So if you're gonna yap, give actual reasons why we should assume a different value from the default assumption we do with any other verse in that, "car here, the speed limit here, ergo car this speed".

Burden of proof is on you to prove it isn't. Speed limits exist, most hover around it, being notably lower being the default assumption isn't how this works. Why would it be lower? It's the middle of a road, said road is long, there's nobody really around or in the way, it's the only car on the street, it isn't at a turn, the dude ain't slowing to stop, etc.

There is, quite literally, no reason for him to be going notably below the speed limit.

They actually go slightly above the limit on average. This is a whole lot of nothing dude. The assumption is "the general speed driving here is this, ergo-", you, yourself, is actively making extra assumptions that aren't implicated at all in the context.

In fact, apparently it's common for them to go over 14kmh over the limit in 40kmh-specified locales, and is often practiced in Izu 50 to 55 km/h (31 to 34 mph) on roads with a 40 km/h limit.

Of course it can be lower, usually on winding roads or in the mountains, but neither apply here.

So if you're gonna yap, give actual reasons why we should assume a different value from the default assumption we do with any other verse in that, "car here, the speed limit here, ergo car this speed".

Burden of proof is on anyone who states that car is going at exactly 40 mph, and again a speed limit sign is not proof enough, you can only guess and assume. Is way more likely to be under the speed limit that at the speed limit exactly or above, more so in Japan where traffic is really respectful of rules.

The driver is obviously looking at Shinichi and thinking, not even looking straight at the road so is safer to assume he is slow driving that going at full speed limit speed.

The driver also is not impressed nor amazed, which would be a normal reaction if anyone see someone running at superhuman speeds on a road.

 

[Chariot190]

Burden of proof is on anyone who states that car is going at exactly 40 mph, and again a speed limit sign is not proof enough, you can only guess and assume. Is way more likely to be under the speed limit that at the speed limit exactly or above, more so in Japan where traffic is really respectful of rules.

You really don't know how the wiki works do you?
We assume the safest assumption with the least amount of guesswork. It's a rod with a 40kmh speed limit. Most people hover around the limit. Therefore it's 40kmh.

Stop yapping about "respectful" when the average driver in that area literally speeds over the limit by like 14kmh.

The driver is obviously looking at Shinichi and thinking, not even looking straight at the road so is safer to assume he is slow driving that going at full speed limit speed.

Yeah no shit he's looking at him, some dude running on the road and overtook him.
This happens within less of a second, you think he slowed down within that tiny half second window of time to look at him? Obviously not.

It isn't safer to assume that, he was just driving and some dude ran by, he didn't know he was going to run by so why would he be going slower suddenly just to look? It isn't like he can't do what he did while driving at a normal limit. Have you ever even driven a car? You can react to shit, such as other cars, passing you without slowling down at vastly higher speeds.

Thinking? Yeah, I'm sure he's like wtf, but it doesn't matter if he's thinking, what matters is the speed he's going. It doesn't even matter if he slows down after he gets passed because he was already outsped, the feat already happened.

The driver also is not impressed nor amazed, which would be a normal reaction if anyone see someone running at superhuman speeds on a road.

Based on what? Even if the car was moving a ludicrous 10kmh, the dude would still be running lik 30-40kmh given how he completely overtook in seconds from a distance. You've been to elementary school I pray, remember those speed-distance-time questions?

Now, instead of wasting everyone's time, and asking everyone to make a bunch of extra assumptions that he's actually going way slower despite being the middle of a road, said road is long, there's nobody really around or in the way, it's the only car on the street, it isn't at a turn, the dude ain't slowing to stop, etc, in a place with a designated limit of 40kmh, in a place most drivers actually SPEED upwards up 10kmh over the limit, despite your claims they go below, all because the dude in the panel isn't making a hyper exagerated reaction.

Give actual reasoning why we should toss out occam's razor, make extra assumptions, treat this case different from any other feat like this in media, because MAYBE he's driving slower? You act like diving below the driving significantly below the posted speed limit without a valid reason isn't considered obstructive and may lead to penalties. Newsflash lad, the 40 speed limit is meant to be followed, you're not meant to go ABOVE or BELOW it by a notable amount with good justification.

 

[Robo432343]

Disagree with the daymare FRA

 

[thedaymare]

You really don't know how the wiki works do you?
We assume the safest assumption with the least amount of guesswork. It's a rod with a 40kmh speed limit. Most people hover around the limit. Therefore it's 40kmh.

Stop yapping about "respectful" when the average driver in that area literally speeds over the limit by like 14kmh.

Yeah no shit he's looking at him, some dude running on the road and overtook him.
This happens within less of a second, you think he slowed down within that tiny half second window of time to look at him? Obviously not.

It isn't safer to assume that, he was just driving and some dude ran by, he didn't know he was going to run by so why would he be going slower suddenly just to look? It isn't like he can't do what he did while driving at a normal limit. Have you ever even driven a car? You can react to shit, such as other cars, passing you without slowling down at vastly higher speeds.

Thinking? Yeah, I'm sure he's like wtf, but it doesn't matter if he's thinking, what matters is the speed he's going. It doesn't even matter if he slows down after he gets passed because he was already outsped, the feat already happened.

Based on what? Even if the car was moving a ludicrous 10kmh, the dude would still be running lik 30-40kmh given how he completely overtook in seconds from a distance. You've been to elementary school I pray, remember those speed-distance-time questions?

Now, instead of wasting everyone's time, and asking everyone to make a bunch of extra assumptions that he's actually going way slower despite being the middle of a road, said road is long, there's nobody really around or in the way, it's the only car on the street, it isn't at a turn, the dude ain't slowing to stop, etc, in a place with a designated limit of 40kmh, in a place most drivers actually SPEED upwards up 10kmh over the limit, despite your claims they go below, all because the dude in the panel isn't making a hyper exagerated reaction.

Give actual reasoning why we should toss out occam's razor, make extra assumptions, treat this case different from any other feat like this in media, because MAYBE he's driving slower? You act like diving below the driving significantly below the posted speed limit without a valid reason isn't considered obstructive and may lead to penalties. Newsflash lad, the 40 speed limit is meant to be followed, you're not meant to go ABOVE or BELOW it by a notable amount with good justification.

Don’t need to be sentimental or personal.

We are debating 40mph sign not 40kmh, so not sure if you mistyped.

The thing is;

1. There’s no clear evidence the car is going at 40mph even if there’s a speed limit sign of 40mph, it doesn’t automatically make every car on road go on that speed, is just the limit, which talking about limits, there should be a minimum speed limit too, since is not there, we can say there’s no minimum speed limit, meaning car can be at any speed unless stated otherwise.

2. The driver is looking directly at Shinichi, not the road ahead, driver is also thinking (the dots) meaning distracted, so the normal and safe bet to assume is that he is driving slowly not the other way. He may even be looking to see whats happening or even if he can stop and help. (Yeah, is not normal to see someone running in the road)

3. The driver is not impressed nor amazed, not only that, people that is seeing Shinichi run are not impressed either like the old guy, if the author really wanted to make it a feat, he would def make the people’s reaction be impressed, amazed, etc, neither of which is shown.

4. Nobody on the road and the road being long only correlates my points, since the driver can take the liberty of slow the speed of the car, be distracted and not looking straight ahead.

 

[Chariot190]

Don’t need to be sentimental or personal.

We are debating 40mph sign not 40kmh, so not sure if you mistyped.

Dude it takes place in Izu.

The thing is;

1. There’s no clear evidence the car is going at 40mph even if there’s a speed limit sign of 40mph, is doesnt automatically make every car on road go on that speed, is just the limit, which talking about limits, there should be a minimum speed limit too, since is not there, we can say there’s no minimum speed limit, meaning car can be at any speed unless stated otherwise.

Occam's razor. We don't assume it's secretly moving at a different speed, they're meant to follow the limit, there's no reason to assume he isn't. Ergo.

2. The driver is looking directly at Shinichi, not the road ahead, driver is also thinking (the dots) meaning distracted, so the normal and safe bet to assume is that he is driving slowly not the other way. He may even be looking to see whats happening or even if he can stop and help. (Yeah, is not normal to see someone running in the road)

Already acknowledged. you're literally just repeating yourself and ignoring why that doesn't work.
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This happens within less of a second, you think he slowed down within that tiny half second window of time to look at him? Obviously not.

It isn't safer to assume that, he was just driving and some dude ran by, he didn't know he was going to run by so why would he be going slower suddenly just to look? It isn't like he can't do what he did while driving at a normal limit. Have you ever even driven a car? You can react to shit, such as other cars, passing you without slowling down at vastly higher speeds.

Thinking? Yeah, I'm sure he's like wtf, but it doesn't matter if he's thinking, what matters is the speed he's going. It doesn't even matter if he slows down after he gets passed because he was already outsped, the feat already happened."

3. The driver is not impressed nor amazed, not only that, people that is seeing Shinichi run are not impressed either like the old guy, if the author really wanted to make it a feat, he would def make the people’s reaction be impressed, amazed, etc, neither of which is shown.

Doesn't matter, this is an argument from incrudulity. You realize no matter what, even if the car was at a mere 10kmh, he'd STILL be superhuman?

In which case, why even then aren't they acting like cartoon characters and making hyper exagerated expressions of disbelief? No matter the case he's still running far beyond what a human can do.

So why is it that "oh he can be superhuman and they don't need to act like cartoons, oh but being THIS fast is to much they'd def act like cartoons!" is ok? It isn't.

Why do they need to be impressed? If anything there's confused as shit. We already know he runs quicker than any human, why aren't they shocked at the fact he's running quicker than an olympic athlete?

This argument is so mindboggling bad, it's just grasping when people wouldn't even do that normally anyway.

4. Nobody on the road and the road being long only correlates my points, since the driver can take the liberty of slow the speed of the car, be distracted and not looking straight ahead.

Except people SPEED in those situations, not slow down to like 5kmh which is what you're effectively arguing as because any speed past that would still make his ass superhuman and thus, according to you, warrant wacky exasperated reactions of impression and awe.

Nobody wants your opinion, that isn't how the wiki works.

He outpaces a car in a place with a 40kmh speed limit, ok so 40kmh, there done. It should have never been questioned past that, the default assumption is fine. But no, because we're being hyper analytical we need to unfairly judge and make a bunch of extra assumptions, except even THEN, it doesn't add up to being slower, as most drivers in that area actually speed over the limit, not go under, the area the feat takes place in has zero reason for them to slow down and actually has ample leeway to speed, and thus assuming that is nothing but baseless conjecture, which we don't use, and given you kept saying japanese drivers try to follow the regulations, directly implicates that he WOULD, in fact, be following the designated speed as you're not supposed to go above or below it without reason, with going below it acting as a potential obstruction and can lead to a penalties. Yet despite all that, you claim he's moving slower, just because at this point really as even your previous presented arguments are objectively false (drivers going under the limit usually, when in reality most speed byt over 10kmh) or following regulations (which would dictate he's moving at 40kmh, not below or above), or the area (the area is literally 40kmh, and is in a place the driver would have the benefit of taking it fast).

Stop wasting time, please, your arguments are based on nothing but personal opinion that doesn't align with reality, facts, standard assumptions the wiki uses. At this point if you can't just give a statement saying his ass was driving dangerously slow (doesn't even make sense, there's ample speed lines and blur present?), there's nothing to debate.

 

[thedaymare]

Dude it takes place in Izu.

Exactly, which has a speed limit of 40 mph not 40 kmph as you are mentioning but anyways.

Occam's razor. We don't assume it's secretly moving at a different speed, they're meant to follow the limit, there's no reason to assume he isn't. Ergo.

There is actually a lot of reasons to assume the contrary, as stated above, you just choose to think otherwise but there are more reasons to think that than to not.

Already acknowledged. you're literally just repeating yourself and ignoring why that doesn't work.
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This happens within less of a second, you think he slowed down within that tiny half second window of time to look at him? Obviously not.

Is a manga panel, want to take the anime for reference?

It isn't safer to assume that, he was just driving and some dude ran by, he didn't know he was going to run by so why would he be going slower suddenly just to look? It isn't like he can't do what he did while driving at a normal limit. Have you ever even driven a car? You can react to shit, such as other cars, passing you without slowling down at vastly higher speeds.

Yeah you can also react to a superhuman speed running human but decide not to, right?

Thinking? Yeah, I'm sure he's like wtf, but it doesn't matter if he's thinking, what matters is the speed he's going. It doesn't even matter if he slows down after he gets passed because he was already outsped, the feat already happened."

Again there’s no proof that’s the case.

Doesn't matter, this is an argument from incrudulity. You realize no matter what, even if the car was at a mere 10kmh, he'd STILL be superhuman?

You understand that’s actually the around the average running speed of a human right? If we triple that, it would be around Usain Bolt’s speed record. Not sure how are you getting superhuman with those numbers.

In which case, why even then aren't they acting like cartoon characters and making hyper exagerated expressions of disbelief? No matter the case he's still running far beyond what a human can do.

So why is it that "oh he can be superhuman and they don't need to act like cartoons, oh but being THIS fast is to much they'd def act like cartoons!" is ok? It isn't.

Why do they need to be impressed? If anything there's confused as shit. We already know he runs quicker than any human, why aren't they shocked at the fact he's running quicker than an olympic athlete?

This argument is so mindboggling bad, it's just grasping when people wouldn't even do that normally anyway.

Don’t need to be a cartoon to be impressed by someone running at superhuman speeds, that would be normal actually, not something usual to see. We are talking about normal people, so it would be consistant to be impressed by someone running at superhuman speeds which they have never seen. This also happens in all media, when the author wants to show that a character is really fast compared to the others.

Except people SPEED in those situations, not slow down to like 5kmh which is what you're effectively arguing as because any speed past that would still make his ass superhuman and thus, according to you, warrant wacky exasperated reactions of impression and awe.

Nobody wants your opinion, that isn't how the wiki works.

He outpaces a car in a place with a 40kmh speed limit, ok so 40kmh, there done. It should have never been questioned past that, the default assumption is fine. But no, because we're being hyper analytical we need to unfairly judge and make a bunch of extra assumptions, except even THEN, it doesn't add up to being slower, as most drivers in that area actually speed over the limit, not go under, the area the feat takes place in has zero reason for them to slow down and actually has ample leeway to speed, and thus assuming that is nothing but baseless conjecture, which we don't use, and given you kept saying japanese drivers try to follow the regulations, directly implicates that he WOULD, in fact, be following the designated speed as you're not supposed to go above or below it without reason, with going below it acting as a potential obstruction and can lead to a penalties. Yet despite all that, you claim he's moving slower, just because at this point really as even your previous presented arguments are objectively false (drivers going under the limit usually, when in reality most speed byt over 10kmh) or following regulations (which would dictate he's moving at 40kmh, not below or above), or the area (the area is literally 40kmh, and is in a place the driver would have the benefit of taking it fast).

Stop wasting time, please, your arguments are based on nothing but personal opinion that doesn't align with reality, facts, standard assumptions the wiki uses. At this point if you can't just give a statement saying his ass was driving dangerously slow (doesn't even make sense, there's ample speed lines and blur present?), there's nothing to debate.

Not need to be sentimental, you sound like your feeling are being hurt for some reason, anyway, we all can share an opinion, even if not asked, that’s what a forum is about.

 

[Dalesean027]

Agreed with chariot this is pretty straightforward

There's genuinely no way yall don't know its also illegal to be driving too slow on roads as well and given how he is easily able to pass a vehicle which even at its absolute slowest in urban area should have a speed limit of 30kmh but usually is between that and 40kmh its like pretty straightforward.

He's on an especially open road at that he quite literally has no reason to not follow road laws and be going less than what's reasonable and that 30kmh is pretty slow considering the kind of road we see the actual vehicle on, on top of the fact there's mot exactly traffic backing it up


He significantly overtakes the vehicle in no time at all and would at least be moving 2x its current pace at worst which can be proven through calculation as well

 

[57Dev]

Agreed. And wow I am surprised people still talk about this anime

 

[Chariot190]

Exactly, which has a speed limit of 40 mph not 40 kmph as you are mentioning but anyways.

No it's literally 40kmh, Japan uses km not miles. Also like, you have LITERALLY been linked sources stating the speed there, have you even clicked any of the links?

There is actually a lot of reasons to assume the contrary, as stated above, you just choose to think otherwise but there are more reasons to think that than to not.

There literally isn't, you haven't given a single one beyond mere baseless conjecture that doesn't even apply to the scene. Or things that simply weren't true like drivers going under limit when in reality they go like 14km over.

Is a manga panel, want to take the anime for reference?

Why would we take a anime that came out like 30 years after the manga that the author had nothing to do with?

The anime is STILL superhuman anyway, and thus half your arguments fall apart the instant dude breaks average human speed.

Yeah you can also react to a superhuman speed running human but decide not to, right?

What are you yapping about?
40kmh isn't impossible to react to, anyone can. I do it all the time, especially when driving, because relatively it isn't 40kmh, you subtract the movement of the vehicle from his movement to get relative speed? Have you never driven a car before?
40kmh isn't even that insane, Usain Bolt runs quicker than that ffs.

Nobody needs to act like a cartoon character and show wacky expressions.

Again there’s no proof that’s the case.

It is the literal default assumption. Stop being obtuse.

You need to prove the car isn't going 40kmh, that's the default assumption and nothing dictates otherwise for us to assume it wouldn't be.

You understand that’s actually the around the average running speed of a human right? If we triple that, it would be around Usain Bolt’s speed record. Not sure how are you getting superhuman with those numbers.

That is LITERALLY my point. Even if you assume a stupidly low speed that is absolutely asinine and isn't supported at all and makes no sense because why in the world would someone be driving a car on a open road with no obstructions in a place with a designated speed of 40kmh at a speed anyone can just outrun, yet even IF that was the case, he'd still be running as fast, if not quicker, than the fastest human. Which, according to you, would warrant huge exasperated reactions.

Don’t need to be a cartoon to be impressed by someone running at superhuman speeds, that would be normal actually, not something usual to see.

Yeah you also don't usually see dudes as fast as Usain Bolt at the minimum running past your car in the 1980s either yet here we are.

We are talking about normal people, so it would be consistant to be impressed by someone running at superhuman speeds which they have never seen.

So why aren't they? We KNOW he's running at superhuman speeds at minimum, even if the car was painstakingly slow, he easily eclipses and is multiple times quicker than it, he's outright stated quicker than any human so be default he's already running at superhuman speeds because they straight up say he is, and yet, even then, they're not making these wild wacky cartoon reactions, dude just looks confused, which yeah sure why wouldn't he? None of this changes the fact we assume the car is 40kmh.

This also happens in all media, when the author wants to show that a character is really fast compared to the others.

And they used a car in this case coupled with statements saying he's quicker than any human.

Straightforward, blatant, yet somehow you're making a fucktrillion extra assumptions that don't even make sense and now that half your arguments have been proven objectively false, you're clinging onto the most lackluster "well this dude didn't shit himself seeing it" to somehow act as proof?

Not need to be sentimental, you sound like your feeling are being hurt for some reason, anyway, we all can share an opinion, even if not asked, that’s what a forum is about.

Sentimental? Not how you use that word, but no, I'm telling you flatout that isn't how this works, at all. Nobody wants your opinion, we want facts, solid evidence, proof, this is a CRT, not a discussion thread.

I do not care what you think or what it MIGHT be, you need to prove your argument has actual merit, not just say "well maybe" when all evidence points to the contrary. What we call that, is stone walling and wasting time. This is a CRT, the only thing that matters is evidence, not opinions.

 

[thedaymare]

As for the not having a definite speed of the car we can get the average speed of a car based on data collected. For instance, according to xmap, Japan - Road Traffic Data, the middle value based on the data collect is; it is in MPH btw

Motorways; Freeways; Major Roads	61.6
Major Roads less important than Motorways	36.8
Other Major Roads	33.6
Secondary Roads	30.4
Local Connecting Roads	24.4
Local Roads of High Importance	16.2
Local Roads	13.6

Additionally, Shinichi in Izu, Japan (Parasyte Chapter 13, Page 1). According to momondo, a car rental site, "The speed limit in Izu is 40 mph, unless otherwise stated on road signs. Izu also has a suburban speed limit of 50 mph which is strictly enforced. If you find yourself on a highway in Izu, be aware that the speed limit is generally 75 mph."

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So the driver shown in the Manga most likely would have been driving slightly faster given that the average driver hovers slightly over the speed limit in Japan.
Thus, 40mph low end, 50 mph mid end, or 75 mph high end.

No it's literally 40kmh, Japan uses km not miles. Also like, you have LITERALLY been linked sources stating the speed there, have you even clicked any of the links?

Have you? We are debating mph here even the OP is stating mph.

There literally isn't, you haven't given a single one beyond mere baseless conjecture that doesn't even apply to the scene. Or things that simply weren't true like drivers going under limit when in reality they go like 14km over.

That was not the case in the manga panel and wasnt stated to be so.

Why would we take a anime that came out like 30 years after the manga that the author had nothing to do with?

The anime is STILL superhuman anyway, and thus half your arguments fall apart the instant dude breaks average human speed.

If the manga panel is to vague like this one then we can take the anime as another supporting source, he clearly is not superhuman speed, juat peak human.

What are you yapping about?
40kmh isn't impossible to react to, anyone can. I do it all the time, especially when driving, because relatively it isn't 40kmh, you subtract the movement of the vehicle from his movement to get relative speed? Have you never driven a car before?
40kmh isn't even that insane, Usain Bolt runs quicker than that ffs.

37.57 kmph is Usain Bolt top speed and human record, so no, the doesn’t run quicker than that. Also if Shinichi was that way faster, like 2, 3 times Usain’s speed, then I am 100% sure he would be getting reactions from people.

Nobody needs to act like a cartoon character and show wacky expressions.

It is the literal default assumption. Stop being obtuse.

No need to do an exagerrated reaction or be a cartoon to just, react, to something you have never seen before like someone on the road running at superhuman speeds. Is like common sense, nobody who saw Shinichi was amazed nor impressed and that tells you something. Old guy, not impressed, driver not impressed.

You need to prove the car isn't going 40kmh, that's the default assumption and nothing dictates otherwise for us to assume it wouldn't be.

That is LITERALLY my point. Even if you assume a stupidly low speed that is absolutely asinine and isn't supported at all and makes no sense because why in the world would someone be driving a car on a open road with no obstructions in a place with a designated speed of 40kmh at a speed anyone can just outrun, yet even IF that was the case, he'd still be running as fast, if not quicker, than the fastest human. Which, according to you, would warrant huge exasperated reactions.



Yeah you also don't usually see dudes as fast as Usain Bolt at the minimum running past your car in the 1980s either yet here we are.

So why aren't they? We KNOW he's running at superhuman speeds at minimum, even if the car was painstakingly slow, he easily eclipses and is multiple times quicker than it, he's outright stated quicker than any human so be default he's already running at superhuman speeds because they straight up say he is, and yet, even then, they're not making these wild wacky cartoon reactions, dude just looks confused, which yeah sure why wouldn't he? None of this changes the fact we assume the car is 40kmh.

And they used a car in this case coupled with statements saying he's quicker than any human.

Straightforward, blatant, yet somehow you're making a fucktrillion extra assumptions that don't even make sense and now that half your arguments have been proven objectively false, you're clinging onto the most lackluster "well this dude didn't shit himself seeing it" to somehow act as proof?

Sentimental? Not how you use that word, but no, I'm telling you flatout that isn't how this works, at all. Nobody wants your opinion, we want facts, solid evidence, proof, this is a CRT, not a discussion thread.

I do not care what you think or what it MIGHT be, you need to prove your argument has actual merit, not just say "well maybe" when all evidence points to the contrary. What we call that, is stone walling and wasting time. This is a CRT, the only thing that matters is evidence, not opinions.

I dont care if you dont care, I will post my opinions as everybody else, evidence is already there in the manga panel clearly showing what I have been stating. Also dont speak for everybody, someone made a decision to disagree based on my FRA, so dont say we want like you are everybody lol, again so sentimental.

 

[Vizmer]

Agreed with chariot this is pretty straightforward

There's genuinely no way yall don't know its also illegal to be driving too slow on roads as well and given how he is easily able to pass a vehicle which even at its absolute slowest in urban area should have a speed limit of 30kmh but usually is between that and 40kmh its like pretty straightforward.

He's on an especially open road at that he quite literally has no reason to not follow road laws and be going less than what's reasonable and that 30kmh is pretty slow considering the kind of road we see the actual vehicle on, on top of the fact there's mot exactly traffic backing it up


He significantly overtakes the vehicle in no time at all and would at least be moving 2x its current pace at worst which can be proven through calculation as well

counted, as for the speed thing limit. I got that from a car rental, 40mph could be simplification or an approximation for international audiences such as English speaking people.
source: https://www.momondo.com/car-rental/Izu-58511

And for the speed minimum speed limit, you are right there is a minimum speed limit. According to the Japan Automobile Federation, "When the maximum or minimum speed is specified with road signs and displays, you must not exceed or drive slower than that speed limit." There is also this: "Maximum speed limits for vehicles are shown on traffic signs and road markings. You must drive safely within the specified speed limits." Keyword within.
source: https://english.jaf.or.jp/safe-driving/traffic-rules-in-japan

 

[Vizmer]

Agreed. And wow I am surprised people still talk about this anime

counted

 

[Vizmer]

Disagree with the daymare FRA

Disagree along side daymare, or disagree with the daymare?

 

[Chariot190]

Have you? We are debating mph here even the OP is stating mph.

Which is wrong, it's actually 40kmh, you've been given sources, stop being obtuse.
But, so what? You realize if it was 40mph, he'd be even quicker right?

That was not the case in the manga panel and wasnt stated to be so.

You're right, it wasn't, but you're the person who argued "well japanese drivers actually do this!", don't backpedal. If you want to argue how an average japanese driver behaves and thus isactually going slower, hate to break it to you, but it's actually the exact opposite.

Normally, like here, we'd just go "feat takes place here, that's the speed, thus that's the speed of vehicle", not all this extra mental gymnastics.

If the manga panel is to vague like this one then we can take the anime as another supporting source, he clearly is not superhuman speed, juat peak human.

Except it isn't vague? You're just being dense.
And even in the anime it's superhuman, he completely outpaces the vehicle.
And third off, we KNOW he's moving superhuman because they STATE he runs quicker than ANY human.

37.57 kmph is Usain Bolt top speed and human record, so no, the doesn’t run quicker than that.

He is literally stated to be quicker than any human by far.
And no, even a meager 10-15kmh car would put him above that speed, do you not realize completely overtaking the vehicle doesn't mean he's equal to it, but actually multiple times quicker?

Also if Shinichi was that way faster, like 2, 3 times Usain’s speed, then I am 100% sure he would be getting reactions from people.

Awful argument based solely from incrudelity that ignores that fact that he's superhuman no matter HOW you go about it and are arbitrarily deciding when it's ok and when it isn't.

No need to do an exagerrated reaction or be a cartoon to just, react, to something you have never seen before like someone on the road running at superhuman speeds.

There was a reaction, dude look super confused. End of.
He was running at superhuman speeds either way.
Your argument doesn't work as no matter what speed the car was going, he'd still be superhuman, and thus subject to your ignorant argument that doesn't effect a single thing, which when coupled with an actual statement, your very premise of an argument can't be true.

Is like common sense, nobody who saw Shinichi was amazed nor impressed and that tells you something. Old guy, not impressed, driver not impressed.

Old dude. Driver confused as ****.
So what, Shinichi was only running at normal human speeds? Ok cool, except he's still multiple times quicker than the car, so then what? If that's true the car must be only moving at like 5kmh, or maybe even less?

Damn, that driver is going to get charged for obstructing because he's going so slow on in that I could walk quicker than his ass is driving.

Your argument is absolutely asinine dude, it doesn't even make sense within itself.

I dont care if you dont care, I will post my opinions as everybody else,

You can, you did, yet continued to do so after your initial arguments were proven objectively untrue, while ignoring the literal fuckton of contrary evidence to your argument presented that also goes against how we the wiki do things, I will legit report your ass for being a nuisance in CRT's.

This is arguing to argue, which, isn't acceptable.

evidence is already there in the manga panel clearly showing what I have been stating.

Your evidence is so lackluster. To the point in no world would we ever accept it.

The worst part of this is, this is like the 4th thing you've attempted to argue, after the first 3 were proven factually incorrect like the speed limits, the locale, how the drivers behave there, etc. You are now at the point you're arguing the car is super slow and Shinichi himself is only running at humans level of speeds, because a driver didn't shit himself and just looked confused.

All while ignoring.

1. Speed limit for that region and road.
2. Zero reasons why they'd be going slower such as turns, traffic, obstructions, etc.
3. Open city straight road.
4. Japanse drivers tend to actually go over the limit, often going around 50 to 54kmph.
5. Going notably below the speed limit is actually problematic and can result in getting a fine. You're meant to adhere to the posted limit strictly unless given reason like sharp curves or turns or civs, though even then they tend to be accounted for with new signs, like the the Kawazu-Nanadaru Loop Bridge in Izu has a speed limit of 30 kmh (18 mph) due to its serpentine structure.
6. He's flatout stated to run at superhuman speed so in no world is the "he's only running at human levels of speed" check out, which, if true, dismantles the very premise of your argument of "he's moving at superhuman so they should react more", because he is either way.

Also dont speak for everybody, someone made a decision to disagree based on my FRA, so dont say we want like you are everybody lol, again so sentimental.

Uh, dude, if you're talking about Robo, he's literally disagreeing with you. Nobody has agreed with you, you even have staff calling you out.

 

[Robo432343]

Also dont speak for everybody, someone made a decision to disagree based on my FRA, so dont say we want like you are everybody lol, again so sentimental.

No

 

[Vizmer]

Have you? We are debating mph here even the OP is stating mph.

The statistics are intended to be for an English speaking audience if you are quoting me regarding, Xmap's Road Traffic Data in Japan, so they will be MPH. You could also do the conversion to kmph. For instance, 100 kmph is around 62 mph.
Besides the point of that was to prove that drivers in Japan drive around the given speed limit. I have no clue why you are still in the is MPH or KMPH thing.

 

[thedaymare]

Which is wrong, it's actually 40kmh, you've been given sources, stop being obtuse.
But, so what? You realize if it was 40mph, he'd be even quicker right?

Even the OP has confirmed it is mph several times and you still making false claims and calculations, have you read all the posts?

Except it isn't vague? You're just being dense.
And even in the anime it's superhuman, he completely outpaces the vehicle.
And third off, we KNOW he's moving superhuman because they STATE he runs quicker than ANY human.


He is literally stated to be quicker than any human by far.

He can be quicker than any human at that time and still be slower than Usain Bolt, which wasnt born at that time, also Japan is not known for having the fastest runners.

And no, even a meager 10-15kmh car would put him above that speed, do you not realize completely overtaking the vehicle doesn't mean he's equal to it, but actually multiple times quicker?

If the car is going at 10 kmph, and Shinichi triples that, he still slower than Usain Bolt and still speak human, so you are not making any sense.

Awful argument based solely from incrudelity that ignores that fact that he's superhuman no matter HOW you go about it and are arbitrarily deciding when it's ok and when it isn't.

There was a reaction, dude look super confused. End of.
He was running at uperhuman speeds either way.
Your argument doesn't work as no matter what speed the car was going, he'd still be superhuman, and thus subject to your ignorant argument that doesn't effect a single thing, which when coupled with an actual statement, your very premise of an argument can't be true.

Old dude. Driver confused as ****.
So what, Shinichi was only running at normal human speeds? Ok cool, except he's still multiple times quicker than the car, so then what? If that's true the car must be only moving at like 5kmh, or maybe even less?

No reactions in the entire manga, not a single panel showing his superhuman speed, people would have reacted if the runned at that speed, why is so hard to understand?

Damn, that driver is going to get charged for obstructing because he's going so slow on in that I could walk quicker than his ass is driving.

He is not obstructing since theres no cars behind, he can take his time.

Your argument is absolutely asinine dude, it doesn't even make sense within itself.

You can, you did, yet continued to do so after your initial arguments were proven objectively untrue, while ignoring the literal fuckton of contrary evidence to your argument presented that also goes against how we the wiki do things, I will legit report your ass for being a nuisance in CRT's.

This is arguing to argue, which, isn't acceptable.

Your evidence is so lackluster. To the point in no world would we ever accept it.

The worst part of this is, this is like the 4th thing you've attempted to argue, after the first 3 were proven factually incorrect like the speed limits, the locale, how the drivers behave there, etc. You are now at the point you're arguing the car is super slow and Shinichi himself is only running at humans level of speeds, because a driver didn't shit himself and just looked confused.

All while ignoring.

1. Speed limit for that region and road.
2. Zero reasons why they'd be going slower such as turns, traffic, obstructions, etc.
3. Open city straight road.
4. Japanse drivers tend to actually go over the limit, often going around 50 to 54kmph.
5. Going notably below the speed limit is actually problematic and can result in getting a fine. You're meant to adhere to the posted limit strictly unless given reason like sharp curves or turns or civs, though even then they tend to be accounted for with new signs, like the the Kawazu-Nanadaru Loop Bridge in Izu has a speed limit of 30 kmh (18 mph) due to its serpentine structure.
6. He's flatout stated to run at superhuman speed so in no world is the "he's only running at human levels of speed" check out, which, if true, dismantles the very premise of your argument of "he's moving at superhuman so they should react more", because he is either way.

I mean, there is not even a speed limit sign on panel, not evidence is a highway, road or just a normal random street, so far nothing has shown clear evidence of what you and OP is stating. So I am the one doing wrong because of stating the obvious? Lol.

Statements are to vague and a lot of assumptions left to interpretation, needs more solid proof to be counted as a real feat.

Uh, dude, if you're talking about Robo, he's literally disagreeing with you. Nobody has agreed with you, you even have staff calling you out.

That’s okay with me. Staff calling me out? When?

 

[thedaymare]

The statistics are intended to be for an English speaking audience if you are quoting me regarding, Xmap's Road Traffic Data in Japan, so they will be MPH. You could also do the conversion to kmph. For instance,
Besides the point of that was to prove that drivers in Japan drive around the given speed limit. I have no clue why you are still in the is MPH or KMPH thing.

Yeah, tried to explain the MPH thing to the other guy, but didnt understand, anyway will move on from that.

There is no speed limit sign on manga panel, meaning we cant know if there is a speed limit, unless stated otherwise. So we cant abide by the minimun speed nor maximum speed limit as you mentioned.

 

[Vizmer]

That was not the case in the manga panel and wasnt stated to be so.

You are assuming the contrary despite the manga's intent, which was to showcase Shinichi's new powers.

If the manga panel is to vague like this one then we can take the anime as another supporting source, he clearly is not superhuman speed, juat peak human.

You do know that is not the only supporting evidence?

37.57 kmph is Usain Bolt top speed and human record, so no, the doesn’t run quicker than that. Also if Shinichi was that way faster, like 2, 3 times Usain’s speed, then I am 100% sure he would be getting reactions from people.

Hello? Did you ignore that there is other people reacting to his speed such as parasytes? In fact, when he ran at athletic human speeds, people where shocked. And as for the driver it was a simple short interaction, before Shinichi overtook the car. If you want their reaction for the athletic human speed, I will find them and post them.

No need to do an exagerrated reaction or be a cartoon to just, react, to something you have never seen before like someone on the road running at superhuman speeds. Is like common sense, nobody who saw Shinichi was amazed nor impressed and that tells you something. Old guy, not impressed, driver not impressed.

I already address this.

 

[thedaymare]

Hello? Did you ignore that there is other people reacting to his speed such as parasytes? In fact, when he ran at athletic human speeds, people where shocked. And as for the driver it was a simple short interaction, before Shinichi overtook the car. If you want their reaction for the athletic human speed, I will find them and post them.

I saw the ones you posted, but those are reaction speed and combat speed based, not running speed. If you have people reacting to his running speed, then yes, provide it.

 

[Vizmer]

There is no speed limit sign on manga panel, meaning we cant know if there is a speed limit, unless stated otherwise. So we cant abide by the minimun speed nor maximum speed limit as you mentioned.

That is why we assume, given that they are in a place in Japan where the speed limit is at least 40mph according to momondo; I tried to be the really accurate, so I got the speed limit of the place where Shinichi is located at that time period. Since it is stated that: "The speed limit in Izu is 40 mph, unless otherwise stated on road signs..." we must assume that speed limit.

 

[Chariot190]

Even the OP has confirmed it is mph several times and you still making false claims and calculations, have you read all the posts?

Ignoring the fact I used to be a Calc Group Member. You've been linked sources.

Nothing I've said has been false, I even linked you regulations on it.

This doesn't even need a calculation, by casually overtaking something, you're not equal to, but quicker, this is literal grade school math. This is something you should just be able to eyeball even, like, if you can't do that idk how you're gonna drive irl.

He can be quicker than any human at that time and still be slower than Usain Bolt, which wasnt born at that time, also Japan is not known for having the fastest runners.

Except, ya know, he's way faster than any human, and the fastest human at the time was 36.55 km/h by leeroy.

For reference that is only 2.82% slower than Usain Bolt.

It legit doesn't matter dude if Usain Bolt was around when someone almost the exact same speed was alive and set a record almost as high at the time.

If the car is going at 10 kmph, and Shinichi triples that, he still slower than Usain Bolt and still speak human, so you are not making any sense.

Except he is LITERALLY stated to be faster than any human and no human can compare to his ass, for, again reference because you don't seem to check stuff before you yap, is STILL 36.55kmh at the time.

No reactions in the entire manga, not a single panel showing his superhuman speed, people would have reacted if the runned at that speed, why is so hard to understand?

You're repeating yourself.
And are ignoring the very blatant impossibilities in your claims.

The very fact he's outpacing the car IS a showing of the superhuman speed. The fact he's stated superhuman dismantles the "nobody shat themselves" argument as it'd apply to the known speed too.

there's motion blur and speed lines too, it's evidently not menat to be slow.

The only way your argument would work is if the car was moving at literally walking speed.

He is not obstructing since theres no cars behind, he can take his time.

That is not how the law works dude. What if someone turned the corner and he's going slow as ****?
Please never drive.

I mean, there is not even a speed limit sign on panel, not evidence is a highway, road or just a normal random street, so far nothing has shown clear evidence of what you and OP is stating.

You realize ANYTHING else would be higher right? 40kmh is standard urban speed limit, highways, expressways, outer streets, etc all higher.

And we know where Shinichi was and where he was heading, hence Izu.

So I am the one doing wrong because of stating the obvious? Lol.

You are actively spitting in the face of the wiki's standards and practices, ignoring the numerous contradictory evidences, the outright impossibility of it all, and actively arguing the car is only moving at like 5kmh because dude's aren't dropping jaws so Shinichi who's flatout stated superhuman must only be running at human level.

Statements are to vague and a lot of assumptions left to interpretation, needs more solid proof to be counted as a real feat.

You are literally going "uhm dude didn't jump up and down" at seeing Shinichi run, is somehow less vague and more concrete than an actual statement stating otherwise....
No.

There is literally nothing saying he's slow except you just saying he is.

That’s okay with me. Staff calling me out? When?

As below.

Agreed with chariot this is pretty straightforward

There's genuinely no way yall don't know its also illegal to be driving too slow on roads as well and given how he is easily able to pass a vehicle which even at its absolute slowest in urban area should have a speed limit of 30kmh but usually is between that and 40kmh its like pretty straightforward.

He's on an especially open road at that he quite literally has no reason to not follow road laws and be going less than what's reasonable and that 30kmh is pretty slow considering the kind of road we see the actual vehicle on, on top of the fact there's mot exactly traffic backing it up


He significantly overtakes the vehicle in no time at all and would at least be moving 2x its current pace at worst which can be proven through calculation as well

Dog this is directed at you. Your argument is absolutely asinine.

 

[Chariot190]

I saw the ones you posted, but those are reaction speed and combat speed based, not running speed. If you have people reacting to his running speed, then yes, provide it.

Two of them are explicitly about movement speed. He has two statements saying he can run quicker and cover distance quicker than any human.

The other two, are about combat.

Dude posted like five statements lad.

 

[thedaymare]

counted, as for the speed thing limit. I got that from a car rental, 40mph could be simplification or an approximation for international audiences such as English speaking people.
source: https://www.momondo.com/car-rental/Izu-58511

And for the speed minimum speed limit, you are right there is a minimum speed limit. According to the Japan Automobile Federation, "When the maximum or minimum speed is specified with road signs and displays, you must not exceed or drive slower than that speed limit." There is also this: "Maximum speed limits for vehicles are shown on traffic signs and road markings. You must drive safely within the specified speed limits." Keyword within.
source: https://english.jaf.or.jp/safe-driving/traffic-rules-in-japan

That is why we assume, given that they are in a place in Japan where the speed limit is at least 40mph according to momondo; I tried to be the really accurate, so I got the speed limit of the place where Shinichi is located at that time period. Since it is stated that: "The speed limit in Izu is 40 mph, unless otherwise stated on road signs..." we must assume that speed limit.

I mean the speed limit assumption is a little vague, but it can work, thing is there is not a minimum speed limit, so car can go from the maximum speed limit, 40 kmph(40mph)

That is why we assume, given that they are in a place in Japan where the speed limit is at least 40mph according to momondo; I tried to be the really accurate, so I got the speed limit of the place where Shinichi is located at that time period. Since it is stated that: "The speed limit in Izu is 40 mph, unless otherwise stated on road signs..." we must assume that speed limit.

But thats maximum speed limit, what about minimum speed limit?

 

[Dalesean027]

thing is there is not a minimum speed limit

Driving a Motor Vehicle in Japan

This page about Driving a Motor Vehicle in Japan.

english.jaf.or.jp

"When the maximum or minimum speed is specified with road signs and displays, you must not exceed or drive slower than that speed limit."

"You must drive safely within the specified speed limits. When there are no signs or markings indicating the speed limit, drivers of regular-sized automobiles must obey the speed limits of 60 km/h on ordinary roads, and 100 km/h on expressways."

The 30kmh and 40kmh are not maximums the 30 is literally the minimum what are you on about

How to drive in Japan | Elmonte RV

elmonterv-japan.com

Maximum speed are usually shown on traffic signs and road markings. The driving speed limit can vary greatly depending on the area, but usually you should expect:
‐ Between 30 to 40km/h in cities.
‐ Maximum of 60 km/h on ordinary roads
- A minimum of 40 km/h and a maximum of 100 km/h on expressways

 

[Chariot190]

I mean the speed limit assumption is a little vague, but it can work, thing is there is not a minimum speed limit, so car can go from the maximum speed limit, 40 kmph(40mph)

It isn't vague, that's literally the law.

But thats maximum speed limit, what about minimum speed limit?

There IS no minimum speed limit, you're supposed to drive at the limit in general?

The only time you drop below it is when you're making turns, slowing down to stop, or other shit like civs getting in the way, traffic accidents, whatever, but in such cases they'd usually be specified like the bridge I mentioned or be obvious like an accident. Otherwise, not following it is against the law.
The worst part is, on average people exceed the limit, not go below it. Most drivers in Izu japan tend to go 10 to 14kmh over the limit even, average 50-54kmh. 40kmh is just the safe assumption because it's the law.

 

[Vizmer]

I saw the ones you posted, but those are reaction speed and combat speed based, not running speed.

If you are referring to second manga panel I showed, that was to show the manga's intent. If you look at the one next to it, there is a parasyte reacting to his running speed. And that parasyte is capable of easily running at 60mph likely higher since there he had to catch up to that car going at that speed.

If you have people reacting to his running speed, then yes, provide it.

 

[Chariot190]

If you are referring to second manga panel I showed, that was to show the manga's intent. If you look at the one next to it, there is a parasyte reacting to his running speed. And that parasyte is capable of easily running at 60mph likely higher since there he had to catch up to that car going at that speed.

100m dash in 9 seconds btw is uhm

40km/h

 

[Dalesean027]

Not even that he says he can EASILY run it, really any contentions against something so simple and blatant really need to be questioned cause what are we doing here

 

[Dalesean027]

@Tllmbrg wanna read through and reevaluate your stance here, I'd say its very well within order

 

[Vizmer]

100m dash in 9 seconds btw is uhm

40km/h

Pretty much from the very beginning of parasyte, Shinichi tries to hide his abilities as much as possible, so he was holding back a lot. IIRC, there is scene in the anime where he runs 100 meter dash before this, where he states that he would break or set a new world record or something.

 

[thedaymare]

Ignoring the fact I used to be a Calc Group Member. You've been linked sources.

Nothing I've said has been false, I even linked you regulations on it.

This doesn't even need a calculation, by casually overtaking something, you're not equal to, but quicker, this is literal grade school math. This is something you should just be able to eyeball even, like, if you can't do that idk how you're gonna drive irl.

You are right about the 40 kmph speed limit at Izu, what I kept mentioning is that OP and me are using mph for reference as stated by both above. The sources you mentioned that were posted are also in MPH.

Except, ya know, he's way faster than any human, and the fastest human at the time was 36.55 km/h by leeroy.

For reference that is only 2.82% slower than Usain Bolt.

It legit doesn't matter dude if Usain Bolt was around when someone almost the exact same speed was alive and set a record almost as high at the time.

Except he is LITERALLY stated to be faster than any human and no human can compare to his ass, for, again reference because you don't seem to check stuff before you yap, is STILL 36.55kmh at the time.

Again even with that he still peak human speed, not making any sense nor bringing anything new to the table with that argument.

You're repeating yourself.
And are ignoring the very blatant impossibilities in your claims.

The very fact he's outpacing the car IS a showing of the superhuman speed. The fact he's stated superhuman dismantles the "nobody shat themselves" argument as it'd apply to the known speed too.

there's motion blur and speed lines too, it's evidently not menat to be slow.

The only way your argument would work is if the car was moving at literally walking speed.

Theres motion blur and speed lines but no reactions, interesting. A manga can be old for something but not the other. I have read around 50+ manga that use the speed lines even with normal running speeds, that is not prove at all.

That is not how the law works dude. What if someone turned the corner and he's going slow as ****?
Please never drive.

Then he just speed ups, is not the end of the world my guy. You also said there was no one on the road right? So why rush?

You realize ANYTHING else would be higher right? 40kmh is standard urban speed limit, highways, expressways, outer streets, etc all higher.

And we know where Shinichi was and where he was heading, hence Izu.

Yes, maximum speed limit, doesnt meant they cant go lower than that.

You are actively spitting in the face of the wiki's standards and practices, ignoring the numerous contradictory evidences, the outright impossibility of it all, and actively arguing the car is only moving at like 5kmh because dude's aren't dropping jaws so Shinichi who's flatout stated superhuman must only be running at human level.

You are literally going "uhm dude didn't jump up and down" at seeing Shinichi run, is somehow less vague and more concrete than an actual statement stating otherwise....
No.

There is literally nothing saying he's slow except you just saying he is.

Didn’t say he is slow, just not superhuman speed, he can still be fast by human and parasites standards, and still not have superhuman speed. Is just relative, weirdly enought no one has reacted impress or amazed to his running speed.

As below.

Dog this is directed at you. Your argument is absolutely asinine.

Oh thought you mean real staff like a mod or something

 

[thedaymare]

Two of them are explicitly about movement speed. He has two statements saying he can run quicker and cover distance quicker than any human.

The other two, are about combat.

Dude posted like five statements lad.

Than any human, are those human superhuman speed? No? Then what does that prove? Usain Bolt is faster than any human, is he superspeed? No.

 

[thedaymare]

Driving a Motor Vehicle in Japan

This page about Driving a Motor Vehicle in Japan.

english.jaf.or.jp

"When the maximum or minimum speed is specified with road signs and displays, you must not exceed or drive slower than that speed limit."

"You must drive safely within the specified speed limits. When there are no signs or markings indicating the speed limit, drivers of regular-sized automobiles must obey the speed limits of 60 km/h on ordinary roads, and 100 km/h on expressways."

The 30kmh and 40kmh are not maximums the 30 is literally the minimum what are you on about

How to drive in Japan | Elmonte RV

elmonterv-japan.com

Maximum speed are usually shown on traffic signs and road markings. The driving speed limit can vary greatly depending on the area, but usually you should expect:
‐ Between 30 to 40km/h in cities.
‐ Maximum of 60 km/h on ordinary roads
- A minimum of 40 km/h and a maximum of 100 km/h on expressways

Maximum speed being 30 km/h to 40 km/h not minimum speed in cities. Only stated minimum speed on expressway. Was Shinichi at a expressway now?

So 30kmph being the maximum, and not set minimum speed limit, on normal street, car can be at any speed. Even if at 20kmph, Shinichi outrunning the car as you guys mention, at double the speed, still 40 kmph, peak human speed, which correlates with people reaction.

 

[Chariot190]

You are right about the 40 kmph speed limit at Izu, what I kept mentioning is that OP and me are using mph for reference as stated by both above. The sources you mentioned that were posted are also in MPH.

So let me get this straight, you're backpedaling now.
You said it wasn't 40kmh, now you're saying it is, which I assume is solely due to your ignorance in knowing the imperial system.

25mph is 40kmh dude. Stop being obtuse.

Again even with that he still peak human speed, not making any sense nor bringing anything new to the table with that argument.

He is LITERALLY stated superhuman.

Theres motion blur and speed lines but no reactions, interesting.

At no point in the manga do the draw motion blur or speedlines for basic walking speed.

A manga can be old for something but not the other. I have read around 50+ manga that use the speed lines even with normal running speeds, that is not prove at all.

Except he isn't AT normal run speed, he's actively outpacing a car. And at no point in the manga is that used for WALKING speed, which is how fast the car would need to be to make him just NORMAL run speed.

Then he just speed ups, is not the end of the world my guy. You also said there was no one on the road right? So why rush?

Because IT'S THE LAW.
Why would he SLOW down even, people tend to speed not slow down to a literal crawl in the middle of a city when on a empty street.

Yes, maximum speed limit, doesnt meant they cant go lower than that.

No it literally does, you're not allowed.

Please never drive.

Didn’t say he is slow, just not superhuman speed, he can still be fast by human and parasites standards, and still not have superhuman speed.

He is LITERALLY stated to exceed any human's running speed, so he's superhuman, he LITERALLY has a casual 40kmh statement, and that doesn't matter, he's outpacing the car, you must prove it's slow af, burden of proof is on you.

Is just relative, weirdly enought no one has reacted impress or amazed to his running speed.

Why actually lie.

Oh thought you mean real staff like a mod or something

At this point even the most basic blue name has more credence compared to you, why act obnoxious on purpose?

Than any human, are those human superhuman speed? No? Then what does that prove? Usain Bolt is faster than any human, is he superspeed? No.

Uh, yeah, actually, newsflash, being faster than any human, is superhuman.
No, Usain Bolt isn't faster than any human, he is literally the benchmark for being top human, not above human.

Maximum speed being 30 km/h to 40 km/h not minimum speed. Only stated minimum speed on expressway. Was Shinichi at a expressway now?

Please for the love of god NEVER drive.

 

[Dalesean027]

Maximum speed being 30 km/h to 40 km/h not minimum speed in cities. Only stated minimum speed on expressway. Was Shinichi at a expressway now?

There is no way you somehow read that as 30kmh as a maximum dawg genuinely what is wrong with you

 

[Vizmer]

Please never drive.

Please for the love of god NEVER drive.

bro

 

[Chariot190]

bro

Look man, I'm not gonna be blamed if bro goes out in the world and gets himself killed because he decided to slow down to like 5kmh and then get's ******* bulldozed by a car coming around a corner or decides to be a nuisance to other drivers, which can lead to a whole slew of other shit like inciting others to reckless drive and speed or make illegal passes because he's being obnoxious, which could end up with accidents or dude's dying or hitting civs.

Not even gonna get into the whole fine thing, obstruction of traffic, etc. Like goddamn what if someone is being rushed to a hospital but bro going slow?

Shit ain't gonna be on me just saying.

 

[thedaymare]

So let me get this straight, you're backpedaling now.
You said it wasn't 40kmh, now you're saying it is, which I assume is solely due to your ignorance in knowing the imperial system.

25mph is 40kmh dude. Stop being obtuse.

Tell that to the OP, as I mentioned I just use mph for reference on that end and cited all his posts about MPH, you just chose to ignore them it seems.

He is LITERALLY stated superhuman.

At no point in the manga do the draw motion blur or speedlines for basic walking speed.

Not really, is actually common for speedline on the manga, even while standing, you can check it, can provide a manga panel too.

Except he isn't AT normal run speed, he's actively outpacing a car. And at no point in the manga is that used for WALKING speed, which is how fast the car would need to be to make him just NORMAL run speed.

A car that is driving slowly, sure

Because IT'S THE LAW.
Why would he SLOW down even, people tend to speed not slow down to a literal crawl in the middle of a city when on a empty street.

No it literally does, you're not allowed.

Please never drive.

Ok I will never drive, thanks for advice, never ever.

He is LITERALLY stated to exceed any human's running speed, so he's superhuman, he LITERALLY has a casual 40kmh statement, and that doesn't matter, he's outpacing the car, you must prove it's slow af, burden of proof is on you.

False. You can exceed any human speed before you and still be peak human speed. If you exceed Usain Bolt speed by 1 kmph, you are still peak human speed.

Why actually lie.

At this point even the most basic blue name has more credence compared to you, why act obnoxious on purpose?

You are acting like you got your feeling hurt for a reason

Uh, yeah, actually, newsflash, being faster than any human, is superhuman.
No, Usain Bolt isn't faster than any human, he is literally the benchmark for being top human, not above human.

He is above all other human in speed, same as Shinichi. Shinichi was never stated or implied go be above human.

Please for the love of god NEVER drive.

Ok will never do it

 

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There is no way you somehow read that as 30kmh as a maximum dawg genuinely what is wrong with you

1. It can be interpreted.
2. Minimun speed was only mentioned and specified at the expressway.
3. It’s 4 AM here, so yeah