Papyrus vs. Theory (Grace)

[Adem_Warlock69]

Fire.

• Both are 9-A
• Speed will be equalized
• Battle takes place in Snowdin
• No Prep Time or Information of each other
• Both start 30 meters away from each other

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VS

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Papyrus: 8 (Pikaman, azontr, Bruhtelho, Arceus0x, jojo123 Dragonite007 FantaRin_The_First, The_Almighty_Wholesome)
Theory:
InconFire:

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Can't believe I'm saying this, but Theory's not the only WWE guy on the wiki.

Why do y'all always gotta use him?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Why do y'all always gotta use him?

Connections

 

[Propellus]

Papyrus stomps. What's theory even going to do against his danmaku filled with soul hax?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

What's theory even going to do against his danmaku filled with soul hax?

Punch him once with his 6x AP advantage

 

[Propellus]

Punch him once with his 6x AP advantage

The range says otherwise, so he won't get the chance to do that

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Punch him once with his 6x AP advantage

So how is Theory going to close the gap before getting ****** by Danmaku + Soul attacks?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

So how is Theory going to close the gap before getting ****** by Danmaku + Soul attacks?

Pretty sure Theory has a massive Skill advantage + Papyrus' Soul Attacks just mean he can deal some damage to Theory despite the AP disadvantage

Also Papyrus isn't the brightest, Theory's SI and him trying to catch Theory instead of killing him means Theory has a chance

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Pretty sure Theory has a massive Skill advantage + Papyrus' Soul Attacks just mean he can deal some damage to Theory despite the AP disadvantage

A massive skill advantage really doesn't matter in a situation like this. Theory has never fought someone like this before.

Also Papyrus isn't the brightest, Theory's SI and him trying to catch Theory instead of killing him means Theory has a chance

Now this can help.

 

[Propellus]

Pretty sure Theory has a massive Skill advantage + Papyrus' Soul Attacks just mean he can deal some damage to Theory despite the AP disadvantage

Also Papyrus isn't the brightest, Theory's SI and him trying to catch Theory instead of killing him means Theory has a chance

There's no evidence that Theory can dodge Danmaku, so that's not going to work.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

There's no evidence that Theory can dodge Danmaku, so that's not going to work.

Papyrus' danmaku before he uses Blue Mode isn't that good either

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Actually is Theory a Top Tier or a God Tier?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Actually is Theory a Top Tier or a God Tier?

Top Tier.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Top Tier.

That means Theory's baseline 9-A, right?
Shouldn't change much since Theory wincons exploit Papyrus' weaknesses anyway

 

[RandomGuy2345]

That means Theory's baseline 9-A, right?
Shouldn't change much since Theory wincons exploit Papyrus' weaknesses anyway

No. Those are the High Tiers, not Top Tiers.

 

[It_is_i_wyatt]

why doesnt undertale soul hax oneshot people without resistance?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

why doesnt undertale soul hax oneshot people without resistance?

Because nothing indicates that it does?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Bump

 

[Propellus]

Dude, this match is a stomp

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Dude, this match is a stomp

Eh, Theory's SI can help him here, especially since Papyrus is a idiot.

But other than that, Papyrus spams Danmaku + Soul Attacks gg.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Hold on...

Wouldn't Papyrus' Danmaku not do a single thing due to the massive AP advantage Theory has?

Theory can basically no-sell it and just pummel Papyrus.

 

[Propellus]

Hold on...

Wouldn't Papyrus' Danmaku not do a single thing due to the massive AP advantage Theory has?

Not only that, his attacks also attacks his soul completely

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Not only that, his attacks also attacks his soul completely

Do all of his attacks attack the soul directly?

If not, then I can definitely say Theory can snatch this win.

 

[Propellus]

Do all of his attacks attack the soul directly?

Their normal attacks all do, knowing how Undertale monsters work

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Then either Papyrus stomps, or Theory gets a sneaky SI.

I'd bet on the former to happen far more times than not.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

On a side note, I am pretty sure if Papyrus saw that his attacks were actually putting Theory's life in danger, he would stop. Like full-on stop his attack, and put him in a jail cell or something. As that is a literal in-character thing for Papyrus to do, and his kindness is listed as a weakness. Like... He is the person who saw a genocidal monster (in one timeline) and decided what he should do to stop said monster was to show them kindness and mercy and made no effort to defend himself - and even when he got killed, he told his murderer that he believed in them and that they could be a better person.

 

[Comiphorous]

On a side note, I am pretty sure if Papyrus saw that his attacks were actually putting Theory's life in danger, he would stop. Like full-on stop his attack

Papyrus beat Frisk until they were unconcious, then threw them in a cage. in character he'd theoretically just keep attacking Theory until he falls unconscious from his attacks. he definitely wouldn't abruptly stop, he has enough control over his magic to stop them from killing someone.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

On a side note, I am pretty sure if Papyrus saw that his attacks were actually putting Theory's life in danger, he would stop. Like full-on stop his attack, and put him in a jail cell or something. As that is a literal in-character thing for Papyrus to do, and his kindness is listed as a weakness. Like... He is the person who saw a genocidal monster (in one timeline) and decided what he should do to stop said monster was to show them kindness and mercy and made no effort to defend himself - and even when he got killed, he told his murderer that he believed in them and that they could be a better person.

In that case, Theory's SI would be even more effective here.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Don't know who's side to believe here tbh.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Papyrus beat Frisk until they were unconcious, then threw them in a cage. in character he'd theoretically just keep attacking Theory until he falls unconscious from his attacks. he definitely wouldn't abruptly stop, he has enough control over his magic to stop them from killing someone.

The heck are you talking about? Papyrus abruptly stopped right here, said his spiel, and took Frisk to his garage, an easily escapable garage that had wide bars, dry food, a chew today, and a dog bed cuz Papyrus genuinely thought that stuff was enough for a human. Or warped him... Like considering that it would be very out of character for Papyrus to beat a person until they were knocked out, I am inclined to believe that it was just Toby being lazy and just jump cut Frisk there.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

On a side note, I am pretty sure if Papyrus saw that his attacks were actually putting Theory's life in danger, he would stop

If this is true, then Theory will actually play the victim and try and look weak. And when Papyrus puts his guard down, Theory hits any one of his 3 finishers and then the fight is over.

This is going to look so good on Theory's W-L record lol.

 

[Comiphorous]

The heck are you talking about? Papyrus abruptly stopped right here, said his spiel, and took Frisk to his garage, an easily escapable garage that had wide bars, dry food, a chew today, and a dog bed cuz Papyrus genuinely thought that stuff was enough for a human. Or warped him... Like considering that it would be very out of character for Papyrus to beat a person until they were knocked out, I am inclined to believe that it was just Toby being lazy and just jump cut Frisk there.

Shit my bad, thought he had a line implying he knocked your ass out at the end after coming back a few times. although the fact he put a note down, and continued to put more stuff inside the jail cell means Frisk was indeed out cold for at least a little bit for papyrus do that.

If this is true, then Theory will actually play the victim and try and look weak. And when Papyrus puts his guard down, Theory hits any one of his 3 finishers and then the fight is over.

This is going to look so good on Theory's W-L record lol.

Yeah but he only did that once he knew they were weakened. Hell by the dialogue above he thought you were weak in the first place. i dont think that will really stop him-

hell refusing to fight papyrus makes him still try and attack you, so unsure if playing victim is gonna work against papyrus.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

hell refusing to fight papyrus makes him still try and attack you, so unsure if playing victim is gonna work against papyrus.

If Papyrus weakens you, and then you start playing victim, how would it not be believable?

 

[Comiphorous]

If Papyrus weakens you, and then you start playing victim, how would it not be believable?

Oh, after papyrus weakens him-

thought you meant Theory playing victim start of fight-

 

[Propellus]

Oh, after papyrus weakens him-

thought you meant Theory playing victim start of fight-

But then again, wouldn't Papyrus already hax him to death?

 

[Comiphorous]

But then again, wouldn't Papyrus already hax him to death?

Papyrus isn't aware Theory isn't gonna take his attacks as physical ones, so it's a possibility he might pull a toriel and accidentally kill him-

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Papyrus isn't aware Theory isn't gonna take his attacks as physical ones, so it's a possibility he might pull a toriel and accidentally kill him-

I mean, Papyrus probably has too much control over his magic to accidentally kill someone lel

 

[Comiphorous]

I mean, Papyrus probably has too much control over his magic to accidentally kill someone lel

Yeah but I think that’s with him basing off people who actively take hits from his magic. Stronger monsters like Toriel can accidentally kill people weaker than themself (frisk), I don’t think theory here is an exception.

 

[Shmooply]

Can someone explain to me where does the "Danmaku GG" argument even come from? Papyrus doesn't overwhelm his opponents with a fuckton of projectiles whatsoever, he at first just starts throwing a small line of bones that move at a snail's pace at his opponent. The only way Theory could die to something like that would be if he didn't know how to control his soul or something.

 

[Pikaman]

If this is true, then Theory will actually play the victim and try and look weak. And when Papyrus puts his guard down, Theory hits any one of his 3 finishers and then the fight is over.

This is going to look so good on Theory's W-L record lol.

Random don’t interpret an ability as universal in scale and details amongst all users of it challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]

Theory’s Social Influencing is based on aggravating his opponent and making them lash out. When tf has he ever played possum? Not every Social Influencer is the same and having it does not make you automatically adept at all forms of manipulation of people. Theory’s Social Influencing would do bugger all here, because Papyrus’ overwhelming faith in all people would trump any attempts to aggravate him into carelessness.