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But doesn't he resisting the EE Wild Magic prove he's resisting the effect? He mentions it has the same power as Longinus, but it's not Longinus itself, and his WCI protects him anyway.
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Overlord General Discussion Mk.III
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Apeironaxim
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Wild Magic is a spell though, not an item, unlike WCI
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Hell, he says it's stronger than Longinus iirc
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I belevie sir you have been ninja'd...I apologize if im incorrect.
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From what I can tell the side story establishes the world class items offer resistances/abilities that are not simply beholden to the laws of yggdrasil.
Apeironaxim
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Entoma was only around level 50, so her attacks did not bother Ainz at all. In addition, if all damage from an attack was nullified, none of the rider effects would take place either.
WCI could maybe function similar to this, where resisting the base influence of the item means the effect never takes place
WCI could maybe function similar to this, where resisting the base influence of the item means the effect never takes place
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But the affect still takes place ainz is simply not drawn into it.
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But in the Wild Magic case, it wasn't an item at all. It was just the New World native magic, which shouldn't have anything to do with Yggdrasil.
Apeironaxim
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Weren't they not able to get past the seal on their mine in YGGDRASIL, even though they had WCI?
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Timestop debate on the latest ainz vs thread could use some experts
Apeironaxim
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What kind of debate?
As in how it works, or whether he uses it?
As in how it works, or whether he uses it?
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No they walked straight through but they went in angry and unprepared thus they got repeatedly pkd before abandoning it. This happened in part due to not every member having a wcl meaning only a small group could go in at once,
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Using it, not an expert so calling on you guys.
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They could get in there, but they only had 11 (10, since they can't take the throne out) WCIs. Only one player can use each, and 10 people wouldn't be enough to take the mine back.Apeironaxim said:
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So the crt should probably have sealing resistance as well.
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Yeah sorry, but people still disagree about whether Ainz would use Timestop, so I just avoid Ainz threads since no one ever seems to agreeThe pen or the sword said:
Apeironaxim
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It's been a thing since he was first added, and I'm guessing they won't accept anything less than Ainz or Maruyama directly saying he will use it
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Eh there not all bad, many get settled because regardless of timestop his death hax win him the day.
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He tried to use it against the Brightness Dragon Lord, but it didn't work. And he didn't bother to use it against the other one.
It's hard to say how he'd react under the battle assumptions used here, really.
It's hard to say how he'd react under the battle assumptions used here, really.
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Is it the Rimuru thread?
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anyway are we making a crt to add sealing resist, erasure resist, and soul destruction resist?
Apeironaxim
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Oh god if it's a Rimuru thread I am definitely staying away
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Eh its pretty low key version.
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For the actual ctr, I think it's better to wait for the finished translation, so the quotes don't include things like "yurin***ers" and stuff . . .
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I mean, imo, some evidence in favor of him using it is the fact he's practiced it so many times so he could be one of the small amount of players that can delay a spell at just the right time so that it lands the instant the Time Stop is done
If you practice something that much, why not try and use when you can?
But obviously then they'll say, "But he's only used it against fodders that he knows can't resist it", despite his remark during the Gazef fight "I see, so time stop counter-measures are important afterall" meaning he clearly didn't know
But eh, it's been debated through hell and back, and yet no one agrees with it
If you practice something that much, why not try and use when you can?
But obviously then they'll say, "But he's only used it against fodders that he knows can't resist it", despite his remark during the Gazef fight "I see, so time stop counter-measures are important afterall" meaning he clearly didn't know
But eh, it's been debated through hell and back, and yet no one agrees with it
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He tried it agianst the dragon lord which helps his case right?
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If he tried it and it didn't work on one dragon, and then fought others comparable in strength to it, he probably assumed they would resist it tooInfiniteSped said:
Now if he didn't use on some dragons before, and the used it on the BDL, then it doesn't make sense and doesn't help
Since dragons were the strongest enemy/race in YGGDRASIL, if the first scenario happened, it would be a fair assumption for Ainz to make
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....There aren't exactly a lot of dragons to test it on he was trying to protect evileye from an enemy he knows is powerful and thus used it. This shows he doesn't just use it on fodder.
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Now someone is trying to argue slime boy resist by nature of his magic resistance....
Someone gonna start the crt....
Someone gonna start the crt....
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InfiniteSped said he didn't bother to use on the other one
So if Time Stop didn't work on one, and the other was comparable in strength, why would he try it again is what I'm saying
Just trying to get context, as others will use the fact he didn't use on the other one as evidence in favor he doesn't use it
So if Time Stop didn't work on one, and the other was comparable in strength, why would he try it again is what I'm saying
Just trying to get context, as others will use the fact he didn't use on the other one as evidence in favor he doesn't use it
Apeironaxim
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Doesn't the Staff bypass resistances?The pen or the sword said:
So would that even matter?
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He doesn't bother because he assumes since the pdl resisted that the coffin dragon lord will as well.
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If we decide that having a WCI means you resist the effects of other WCIs, then Ainz would get resistance to EE, BFR, and Sealing off the top of my head
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That's what I saidThe pen or the sword said:
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The other dragon fought with an armor made of hundreds of thousands of corpses. Ainz knew that the first dragon resisted, and assumed the other would resist as well, but kept wondering if time stopping would affect the corpse armor and keep the dragon trapped inside.
In the end, he decided to not do it. He had a plan to wipe out the armor anyway.
In the end, he decided to not do it. He had a plan to wipe out the armor anyway.
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Well thats what was implied when he resisted the dragons attack as it wasn't a world class item and was resisted
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So solid case to be made now that we've seen him use it against fodder and powerful foes?
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