Our beloved Witch Beatrice gifts us this new year with a new ability to Meta-Beings: Nonduality

[JustANormalPerson01]

Basically, all the proposal is argued here.

Collection of staff votes

 Agree:
Neutral:
 Disagree: @Udlmaster

 

[Livinmeme]

I mean kinda? If mirror A is the reverse of B, and Mirror C is the reverse of B, and this shit goes until infinity, then yeah, I kinda get the logic. Also if I am right, then that also should give nonduality type 3, as they exist in a beyond infinite states of logics, which those mirrors represent.

 

[Ovy7]

Uh, interesting. I never considered the Mirror Worlds in that way, tho it makes sense.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

I mean kinda? If mirror A is the reverse of B, and Mirror C is the reverse of B, and this shit goes until infinity, then yeah, I kinda get the logic. Also if I am right, then that also should give nonduality type 3, as they exist in a beyond infinite states of logics, which those mirrors represent.

Not really.

What is reversed differs from one mirror to another. In one world what may be reversed could be personalities, while in others reality would be reversed and be "dreams" instead.

Mirrors do not work like:

Mirror 1: A
Mirror 2: ¬A
Mirror 3: Neither A nor ¬A

But, instead:

Mirror 1: Property A, B & C.
Mirror 2: Property A is reversed. I.e., it has property ¬A, B & C
Mirror 3: Property B is reversed. I.e., it has property A, ¬B & C
Mirror 4: Property C is reversed. I.e., it has property A, B & ¬C.
Mirror 5: All 3 properties are reversed. I.e., it has property ¬A, ¬B & ¬C.
Boundary between mirror 1 & 2: It has both property A & ¬A, B & C.
etc.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

@CrimsonStarFallen @Catzlaflame @Elizhaa @Udlmaster

What do you think about this?

 

[Udlmaster]

Hey, thanks for inviting me, glad to see I'm remembered.

As for the case here, I'm not very convinced it strictly means dualities.

Within the first section of the blog it misconstrues what the statement is saying, the annotation by the blog creator says:

Worlds of mirror govern the opposites of everything and anything on existence.

But that's not what the scan said, it said;

...Mirrors govern the opposites of anything and everything.

Here it's not as clear cut, because this could be talking in a less literally and more in metaphor, as a mirror would seem to anyone to "govern" (that is to mean, contained or hold) the opposite, it is the window to an opposite world.

This seems less like dualities and more like "what if x is different", with the scan saying;

Everything's reversed... it really does feel like I'm drunk...

Which given the visual, seems to be describing how disorientating it is to be in a place that is "flipped" around.

Again, this doesn't seem to be talking about a duality at all, but rather a Mirror world, which is a common trope.

This interpretation of them all being "Mirror universes" in the sense of a parallel but distinct universe comes up when another character talks about how personalities in one of the mirror worlds are "flipped", they even flat out use the phrase "parallel world";

"I've met many of this world's residents so far... but they were always slightly different."
"That's right. It looks like this is a world that flips people's personalities."
"Flips... their personalities...?"
"Within the mirrors there are countless parallel worlds in which various factors have been inverted. There are many different things that can be reversed, but in this case, it's the personalities."

From what has been provided I don't see Dualism represented here, I just see a Mirror universe trope, so I have to, based on the current evidence, hard disagree.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Hey, thanks for inviting me, glad to see I'm remembered.

As for the case here, I'm not very convinced it strictly means dualities.

Within the first section of the blog it misconstrues what the statement is saying, the annotation by the blog creator says:


But that's not what the scan said, it said;

I added the "on existence" part due to the 07th Cosmology page using the raw text to shows it contains the kanji of shinza bansho, that meaning "everything existing on the universe" as linkened in the very page

Here it's not as clear cut, because this could be talking in a less literally and more in metaphor, as a mirror would seem to anyone to "govern" (that is to mean, contained or hold) the opposite, it is the window to an opposite world.

This seems less like dualities and more like "what if x is different", with the scan saying;


Which given the visual, seems to be describing how disorientating it is to be in a place that is "flipped" around.

Again, this doesn't seem to be talking about a duality at all, but rather a Mirror world, which is a common trope.

This interpretation of them all being "Mirror universes" in the sense of a parallel but distinct universe comes up when another character talks about how personalities in one of the mirror worlds are "flipped", they even flat out use the phrase "parallel world";



From what has been provided I don't see Dualism represented here, I just see a Mirror universe trope, so I have to, based on the current evidence, hard disagree.

But yeah, fair, I guess you could see it that way.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Following, will give input later.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

I didn't really saw anything worth noting as actual dualities in the later part, however, the reality+dream part is a true duality. Reality and fiction, 1-A and non 1+A are ontological dual distortions after all
They would also naturally cover every other duality on the 1-A and non 1-A plane via their nature as qualities, so them being a general duality is also fine.

However, if what Uldmaster said about them being akin to parallel universes is true, than I am inclined to disagree cuz those are not dualities. However, if what they said is false and there is proof of it being false, I agree with the changes.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

"World" in that context seem to be treated as parallel universes, yeah, since in the same context Kyou referred to the World of daydreams, a world of waking dreams, which seems to be parallel world.

So, yeah, due to the arguments above, I think this can be closed.