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Otto vs Eiji Hino
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What does he start with then? Does he like to tank opponent attack?
And how does Otto power mimicry work? Can it copy conceptual abilities?
And how does Otto power mimicry work? Can it copy conceptual abilities?
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He start with a gun likely , but still depend how much knowledge of his opponent he has.
It's not really broken just copy a weapon that has multi-functional.
If he knowing that the fight cross the line of danger , he'll use a H6A sword or create a massive black hole.
It's not really broken just copy a weapon that has multi-functional.
If he knowing that the fight cross the line of danger , he'll use a H6A sword or create a massive black hole.
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What is his AP by the way? OOO scale too 276 Gigaton.
if the AP gap is too wide Otto might straight up get one shot by a stray blast from his...well anything.
And his immortality can easily be mulled by Eiji’s favorite Axe which destroy opponent on a conceptual level.
and unless the Blackhole had some BFR stuff related to it, Eiji should be fine since Core Medal and Cell Medals survive the black hole generated by Eiji himself.
if the AP gap is too wide Otto might straight up get one shot by a stray blast from his...well anything.
And his immortality can easily be mulled by Eiji’s favorite Axe which destroy opponent on a conceptual level.
and unless the Blackhole had some BFR stuff related to it, Eiji should be fine since Core Medal and Cell Medals survive the black hole generated by Eiji himself.
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Otto is above 860 Gigatons
Also hes got gilgamesh style danmaku with Judgement of Shamash(The guns) so there is that too
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Now we have an actual fight.
Otto have a pretty sizable AP advantage. But not sure if he can actually putting Eiji down in a meaningful way. Does Otto have anything to break something conceptual/BFR?
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He can attack concepts with Honkai energy as Bronya can kill type 3 conceptual beings so there is that
BFR with Black Holes if he can get within a couple dozen meters as well
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Eiji resists Conceptual and Void manip that specifically design to destroy his kind of Concept,
Lovely, how likely is he to use it though? From the way the above comment state on his black hole, he doesn’t seem to spam it.
Eiji can ignored range with OOO bash spatial slash. And if range spam become a problem then he can speed amp himself with Latoratah or goes into Super TaToBa and start time stop spamming.
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He's not likely to go with Black Hole from the get go, he's more a fan of using the H6A Cleaver of Shamash or to Mind destroy with Fenghuang Down
He might use black hole or his power null to end this if he realizes nothing else is working
Just to note about the power null it nullifies all energy related phenomena which includes things like bio electrical functions
If Eiji goes with speed amps Otto will likely try illusions with Fenghuang down to maybe have him run into a couple of his attacks
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Not really familiar with Honkai verse, do the corruption affected the mind? If so then how fast does it work?
Eiji is pretty observant about the situation he's in, with all the attacks coming from Otto side that he cant really block against, he might just goes straight into Gatakiriba and All Combos hims aka infinitely spawning clones plus each one of Eiji complete combos gang up on Otto. And a good hit in with Purple Medal power, Otto will die unless he have resistances to concept manip that I didnt see.
this really isnt a problem since Greeed are basically walking mass of desire. It's Cell and Core Medals all the way down.
and can his powernull work on concept? and it is about as likely that Eiji will answer with OOO bash if he kept chugging rang attack.
Eiji is pretty observant about the situation he's in, with all the attacks coming from Otto side that he cant really block against, he might just goes straight into Gatakiriba and All Combos hims aka infinitely spawning clones plus each one of Eiji complete combos gang up on Otto. And a good hit in with Purple Medal power, Otto will die unless he have resistances to concept manip that I didnt see.
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The corruption does affect the mind it even attacks a persons Sentience, around someone like Otto who in this state rivals Herrschers it will take like 5-10 seconds at best if he is a couple meters away since it spreads in the form of radiation
But the corruption can affect people hundreds of meters away as well like how an inferior character who wasn't even trying to corrupt people had turned a large chunk of a city into mindless zombie drones
His power null does shut down conceptual things too and disabled High 1-C abilities if a being is completely conceptual or made from energy he can likely destroy them entirely with the powernull
Otto is also extremely smart look at his wall of text for his intelligence justifications (lol) If Otto can't respond to Block he can take many shots due to a Sizable AP Gap if he needs a breather he will use Fenghuang down illusion all the clones quick or he will choose to use black holes because it would be the most logical option to beat a mountains of enemies jumping him
With the black hole not taking much charge time if any
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Then Eiji doesnt really have much chance to attack since he usually use void hax in melee range form and Black Hole is mostly a last resort attack.
May I ask which conceptual things that he powernull?
Among the clone the one that will probably get him is Super TaToBa with timestop.
Is his immortality combat applicable too?
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Primarily desires, thoughts, memories and emotions he can powernull but Honkai energy as a whole can effect an infinite number of concepts but it is unknown whether Otto can alter and null all of them
Also Otto does resist time stop and the lowest of low level valkyries have time stop abilities
Immortality technically isnt that combat applicable since hes sending his soul to one of his bodies and Schicksal HQ but he obviously has a finite amount of bodies, but if he pulls up with the Soulium Body he's coming back with a 892 Teraton body lol
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He does? It doesn’t seem to be on his profile from his resistances list? Has his profile been updated yet?
If he pull that on Eiji then he probably will just straight up win against Eiji then since his power come from Desire.
technically? What do you mean by that? And the AP really isn’t a problem since Eiji have plenty of way to bypass AP like spatial cut, void hax/conceptual hax, black hole. Two out of three of these is used quite frequently.
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It’s on the Honkai Energy page it’s the power system he makes use of he has all the Powers and resistances that aren’t Herrscher exclusive (You can check the page for more details)
So he has one solid win con against Eiji with his power null(The 11th God Key) so that’s something
I mean technically because well the distance and stuff since I thought things like coming back with another body later if wasn’t soon it wasn’t combat applicable but if him coming back along while later after dying or being incapped
Also what is the strength of and how big are these black holes
Because seemingly in the Honkai verse if a black hole is too small or weak it can be seemingly overcome via spacial hax and gravity manip resistance like Kevin Kaslana who effortlessly cuts Black Holes
Although The black holes Kevin cut scales to Continent swallowing
And Otto is weaker than Kevin but you get my point
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Well then it depend if he can comeback to where they are fighting this can goes into either side favor.
How resistances to Honkai energy is Otto? from the page I read if his resistances is high enough then Eiji literally doesnt have a wincon.
The blackhole is only human size, but it was created by the Purple Medal which is basically void hax and it work as a portal to the future as well
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Well he can comeback then even if they were fighting in the most remote location in the world he still has access to high hypersonic jets which can fly seemingly from Northern Europe to an island a few hundred kilometers east of the Philippines in minutes so I guess coming back isn’t a problem
Otto’s Honkai resistance is pretty darn insane which means he resists all those abilities at a high level and tends to face tank Honkai’s effects which is all of that stuff
if it’s based on void hax then ok Otto will not just casually walk up and cut it
Noted
Since in Honkai the black holes are just real black holes just without the Hawking radiation and singularity
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If thats the case then Otto pretty much stomp since most of his hax get hard neg by his resistances.
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Fudge
Stomp thread darn it
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I don’t think so it just means that stomp match should be removed
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Kinda forgot about that one. That was way before Eiji have resistances to soul hax and his biology isn’t throughly finalized so it wasn’t really a stomp at the time. You can remove it now though
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The disadvantage of having too much hax and resistance, less match-up potential and stomp
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I guess it really is lonely at the top
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Remind me back in the days when i was still made a tons of match-ups where most of them ended in stomp because what i said above lel
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Very lonely
Literally came up with another matchup with this verse today
And the basis for it not being a stomp thread is
“Well the character won’t immediately one shot with High 1-C hax they’ll only later into the fight do all that nonsense and they can’t do anything about it when that happens”
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